Versus Battle Mother Flame (One Piece) vs Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of DBZ)

[Steven]

I'll gladly be in the minority. The fact that it literally has the same moon as ours, same sun, and same planetary system as ours makes me believe it's our earth

Bottom Right Panel

River = 3 pixels
Alabasta = 208 pixels

Alabasta/River = 69.333

River = 50,000 meters (its from here)
Alabasta = 3,466,650 meters

Top Left Panel

Alabasta = 23 pixels
Distance Between Islands = 182 pixels

Distance Between Islands/Alabasta = 7.913

Distance Between Islands = 27,431,601.45 meters

Why not just scale directly from Alabasta? If you noticed above? There are no islands large enough near Alabasta to be visible from our bird's eye view. To account for this, we need to scale from the distance between islands on the Grand Line as shown on the globe. Where I scaled is likely not even Alabasta, but the odds are pretty good that Alabasta's not even an island large enough to be seen on the scale of the globe anyway.

Distance Between Islands = 6 pixels
Planet Diameter = 99 pixels

Planet Diameter/Distance Between Islands = 16.5

Planet Diameter = 452,621,423.925 meters

Upper Yard = 355 pixels
Jaya = 262 pixels

Jaya/Upper Yard = 0.738

Upper Yard = 10,476.48 meters (found above)
Jaya = 7,731.642 meters

Jaya = 398 pixels
Jaya Height = 36 pixels

Jaya Height/Jaya = 0.09

Jaya Height = 695.848 meters

None of this height peaks over the horizon for Ussop to observe.

Planet Diameter = 452,621.424 kilometers

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Pixel scaling never fails to get a laugh out of me.


Besides charged up attacks, DBZ characters almost always endure their own ki attacks. So I don’t see how/why Mother Flame would Ko either. Deal them decent damage, sure. But they’re taking it and will still be in fighting condition.

 

[Sentinel]

He never did, I am just saying I think they're both based off ours, and I would need Oda to tell me otherwise to believe it isn't.

(The farthest moon (or is it a planet?) on the left corner, is it just me or does another moon circle around that, let's say, planet?)

I don't know about Ohara using geocentrism since they all took their research on things about the Void Century which was proven to be highly advanced in technology.

But more on that panel, there isn't only one moon but several others (I know, Jupiter has around 80 moons or sth like that but Oda doesn't have to be thaaaaat accurate), each of them different in size.
However, that's the weird thing: It's not the matter how many planetary objects are circling around the OP world, it's the fact why we can't see them anymore. There is only one moon now, the one which Enel went to. What happened with the others? I think that's the part when the ancient weapons take a crucial part. I think some might be blown away from Pluton or Poseidon.

^Of course this part is rather pure speculation but OP world is different than ours just from the fact that several planetary objects are circling it. That already makes it different to ours, and the OP world also doesn't have similar geographical structures either. The only largely visible thing is the Red Line going around the world like a circle. That's already the odd part.

I'll grant you that, do you believe the Mother Flame is enough to destroy a DB world assuming the OP world is bigger?

I do think it can blow up the planet but although I'm not sure about that, it can definitely blow up the moon effortlessly.

Pixel scaling never fails to get a laugh out of me.

Well, sometimes it is a useful and necessary tool if you lack information to scale something properly, when the eye isn't enough to estimate its true value. But I understand why you can't take it seriously since authors tend to be inconsistent in their own scaling. However, we are not the authors so we have to look at tools to make discussions objectively more efficient.

I mean, how are you gonna find out the true - or finding values closer to the truth - damage output of Mother Flame if it wasn't for calcs?

 

[Steven]

Pixel scaling never fails to get a laugh out of me.


Besides charged up attacks, DBZ characters almost always endure their own ki attacks. So I don’t see how/why Mother Flame would Ko either. Deal them decent damage, sure. But they’re taking it and will still be in fighting condition.

Students at Howard use pixel scaling lol.But ofc TAC,a casual Bleacher on WG is coming with his insane takes.

Anyone who does this hobby on a more serious note already accepted that the OP Planet is FAR bigger as ours

 

[mmd]

Piccolo>>one piece?

 

[Sentinel]

Students at Howard use pixel scaling lol.

I mean, how else are you gonna scale the panels if not using the pixels?

 

[IsaziSempi]

1st question: Do you believe OP world is actually larger than ours? If so,
2nd: can Mother Flame actually bust a planet as ours? It highly depends on what Mother Flame is capable of when being used on other planets.

I think neither Goku nor Piccolo can take such a beam like that. As you said, maybe with near death experience.

One piece is measured in feet just like any other place or meters. The question is rather how dense is the energy as in how much energy is in the blast. Needless to say they aren't walking away unscathed. Unfortunately dbz hasn't been consistent with the effects of blast and ki. If I had to guess it's similar to haki where if you have more haki you do damage less haki then it does nothing or little damage.

I think it's safe to say mother flame has the attack 0potency of a nuclear explosion which would hurt piccolo and Goku0

 

[Steven]

I mean, how else are you gonna scale the panels if not using the pixels?

You cant without pixel scaling.Its just your WG Bleachers like TAC who crys all the time about it

I think it's safe to say mother flame has the attack 0potency of a nuclear explosion which would hurt piccolo and Goku0

Fucking Tsar Bomb is 58 megatons.Good to know MF and BoS Goku/Piccolo are Citylevel

 

[IsaziSempi]

You cant without pixel scaling.Its just your WG Bleachers like TAC who crys all the time about it

Fucking Tsar Bomb is 58 megatons.Good to know MF and BoS Goku/Piccolo are Citylevel

Goku got hurt by a rock I think a nuclear explosion would do sufficient damage

 

[Steven]

Goku got hurt by a rock I think a nuclear explosion would do sufficient damage

That n1bba using a crystal clear outlier when Goku can tank Raditzs´ attacks.

Thats WG for you

 

[Sentinel]

Goku got hurt by a rock I think a nuclear explosion would do sufficient damage

Vegeta can take Goku's planet buster Kamehameha but they can't tank a mere nuclear bomb?

 

[IsaziSempi]

That n1bba using a crystal clear outlier when Goku can tank Raditzs´ attacks.

Thats WG for you

It's called having a brain. Nuclear-powered bombs are as hot as the surface of the sun.

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Vegeta can take Goku's planet buster Kamehameha but they can't tank a mere nuclear bomb?

Don't think it's so much that he can take it as much as he can contest it. I mean both goku and vegeta have been killed by non planet busting attacks. I mean if you rub those two braincells together and remember cell was destroying islands and thought that was enought to destroy android 18 and were talking about goku with a powerlevel around 1000 or less.

 

[Steven]

It's called having a brain. Nuclear-powered bombs are as hot as the surface of the sun.

But you dont have a brain mr. casual

The likes of Tsar Bombs is 58 aka Citylevel.And that was Pre-Teen Goku stuff.And surviving the sun just requires MCB Durability lol.Heat of the sun is nothing special

Don't think it's so much that he can take it as much as he can contest it. I mean both goku and vegeta have been killed by non planet busting attacks. I mean if you rub those two braincells together and remember cell was destroying islands and thought that was enought to destroy android 18 and were talking about goku with a powerlevel around 1000 or less.

AP is a thing dude.Base Frieza with 1 finger destroyed Planet Vegeta but somehow Cells attacks are worse smh.A autor will never go all out if he cant fix the damage done.Namek was doomed hence it was fine to destroy it.The earth always has Plotarmor.

Almost dead Frieza survived the explosion of Namek.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

But you dont have a brain mr. casual

The likes of Tsar Bombs is 58 aka Citylevel.And that was Pre-Teen Goku stuff.And surviving the sun just requires MCB Durability lol.Heat of the sun is nothing special


AP is a thing dude.Base Frieza with 1 finger destroyed Planet Vegeta but somehow Cells attacks are worse smh.A autor will never go all out if he cant fix the damage done.Namek was doomed hence it was fine to destroy it.The earth always has Plotarmor.

Almost dead Frieza survived the explosion of Namek.

AP is a thing dude.Base Frieza with 1 finger destroyed Planet Vegeta but somehow Cells attacks are worse smh.

Almost dead Frieza survived the explosion of Namek.

Yes, but Freeza is from a different race.

 

[IsaziSempi]

But you dont have a brain mr. casual

The likes of Tsar Bombs is 58 aka Citylevel.And that was Pre-Teen Goku stuff.And surviving the sun just requires MCB Durability lol.Heat of the sun is nothing special


AP is a thing dude.Base Frieza with 1 finger destroyed Planet Vegeta but somehow Cells attacks are worse smh.A autor will never go all out if he cant fix the damage done.Namek was doomed hence it was fine to destroy it.The earth always has Plotarmor.

Almost dead Frieza survived the explosion of Namek.

Brolly was killed by the surface of the sun you dipshit i just that as the an example so you would wiggle your way into complete an utter incompetence. Goku is not fireproof you gen z scumbag. Nor is he immune to city level attacks. Yeah gokus body is durable that bullets don't actually Pentwater him but outside that he still has a normal human body and the heat of the sun not to mention radiation and lack of oxygen would do damage. I think your so confident because you never passed like a high-school level physics or chemistry or biology class.

 

[L o g i a]

Goku beginning of DBZ casuals the moon

Lulusia is thousands if not millions of times smaller than the moon

Mother flame is closer to Krillin's Kamehameha around the time he was killed in DB

 

[Steven]

Brolly was killed by the surface of the sun you dipshit i just that as the an example so you would wiggle your way into complete an utter incompetence

Cliche and incosistent showings is not helping you.Broly not surviving the sun is a outlier since over 20 years.And nothing will change that

Nor is he immune to city level attacks

Yeah,not wasting my time with you fucktard.Better stick with this asstier forum.That fact that you think hes a normal human when hes not even a human in the first place tells me everything

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Yes, but Freeza is from a different race.

And?Gokus Dura>Friezas Dura>explosion of Namek