Future Events Opponents for 7 (8-9) Red Scabbards

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

We've all talked about opponents of the pirate crews however Scabbards alone are likely strongest group barring SHs. who do you think their opponents will be
We already saw claim of Asura Douji calling Jack as smallfry and wanting stronger opponent....
we already saw Nekomamushi and Inuarashi Without Sulong forms fight on par against Jack....
Denjiro Very likely the one with the most vengeance in mind ( even changing his face ) must've trained alot to get stronger and should be at least as strong as Inu and Neko or even Asura Douji
Kawamatsu also had some years to train more than Kinemon, Kiku and Raizo...
So we have at least 4 guys here Top Commander level and 4 more Veteran levels ( Shinobu might be considered as 9th scabbard based on Oden's flashback although she might not be important )
We cant just ignore their importance in the war, this war begun because of them
Oniwabanshu guys are nowhere near enough for stopping them as seen their fight against Zoro and at very best the 3-4 Veteran level Scabbards can take care of them....
and So remains the Top Commander level ones.... I think they could be likely candidates for stopping Calamities...Jack of course has history with Neko and Inu, Queen has history with Kawamatsu (not sure if they'll fight though) but Denjiro once did tell Queen to send his TobiRoppo and was talking to him as equal so maybe Denjiro will have Queen, remains King and if Asura calls Jack as smallfry and wants better matchup then of course King should be more than enough for his claim on opponent....
I think the top 4s (Inu and Neko with Sulong) should really have strong opponents specially Asura and Denjiro....
To be honest I cant just imagine Sanji going from struggling against Vergo, Getting almost killed by Doflamingo and struggling against Judge to straight beating Top Commanders...I would rather have one of those Top 4s do it as they've proven themselves

 

[Jrus]

To be honest I cant just imagine Sanji going from struggling against Vergo, Getting almost killed by Doflamingo and struggling against Judge to straight beating Top Commanders

why? sanji couldn't even beat Blueno before he beat Jabra.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

why? sanji couldn't even beat Blueno before he beat Jabra.

True but I am talking based on what was shown, of course Oda can do whatever he wants as you said give them extraordinary powerups out of nowhere like Gear 2nd and 3rd Luffy

 

[Exodia.]

most likely scabberds fights are gonna consist of team ups such as: neko&inu vs jack and others

 

[PirateKingDrew]

I see the scabbards fighting the Oniwabanshu, Kanjuro and Orochi
I think the straw hats take out the flying 6, calamities and Kaidou
no clue who fights Big Mom and her brats

 

[Exodia.]

I see the scabbards fighting the Oniwabanshu

shit i forgot about them

 

[sanjikun]

Yeah a Vinsmoke fighting a Y2C. Completely out of the realm of possibility. Oh wait.

And reminder, that Smoothie only pinned Reiju down with help from Galette.

"But he got owned by Doflamingo. How can he fight a Y2C" Oh wait.

The only commander that's out of the reach for Sanji right now are right hands (especially Katakuri). Everyone else is fair game. Queen and Smoothie are best mid/mid-to-high diffs against Katakuri, and I'm being generous.

 

[Eustass]

There is also the other group that mirrors the Oniwabashu but instead of ninjas they are Samurai I think.

Raizou will fight the Oniwabashu leader, I guess another will fight the Samurai group leader, Kinemon gets Kanjuro and the rest I have no idea. Maybe Orochi still has a great Samurai in his side or something

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Yeah a Vinsmoke fighting a Y2C. Completely out of the realm of possibility. Oh wait.

And reminder, that Smoothie only pinned Reiju down with help from Galette.

"But he got owned by Doflamingo. How can he fight a Y2C" Oh wait.

The only commander that's out of the reach for Sanji right now are right hands (especially Katakuri). Everyone else is fair game. Queen and Smoothie are best mid/mid-to-high diffs against Katakuri, and I'm being generous.

Back again with Vinsmokes hype

Reiju did as much as Ichiji did to Katakuri

"Smoothie only pinned Reiju because of galette" lol galette stopped everyone...reiju poison wont do much to Smoothie.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

shit i forgot about them

Then what did you read in the thread itself ?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

why? sanji couldn't even beat Blueno before he beat Jabra.

the difference between that and this is that Sanji already got his power up early in the arc and we saw how well it does against veterans. Page must have been at least a mid Diff fight if not higher for sanji to not have defeated him already.

and page likely wasn't even the strongest tobi roppo.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Yeah a Vinsmoke fighting a Y2C. Completely out of the realm of possibility. Oh wait.

And reminder, that Smoothie only pinned Reiju down with help from Galette.

"But he got owned by Doflamingo. How can he fight a Y2C" Oh wait.

The only commander that's out of the reach for Sanji right now are right hands (especially Katakuri). Everyone else is fair game. Queen and Smoothie are best mid/mid-to-high diffs against Katakuri, and I'm being generous.

Smoothie VS Reiju was not a fight, Smoothie blocked her attack and Reiju's poison was ineffictive....Doflamingo stopped Jozu when Jozu was fighting crocodile and just after that Jozu freed himself getting away from Crocodile's attack.... it was not like Sanji VS Doflamingo where Sanji's attacks didnt damage him at all and Doflamingo almost killed him....the same Doflamingo who BM sent Cracker as stronger opponent than Doflamingo against Luffy

 

[Yasuda]

Just to remind everyone, alongside the Oniwabanshu, Orochi also has the Mimawarigumi. They might amount to nothing but it's worth mentioning them. They appeared in 951 and 958 if you want to refresh your memory. Also, they are very clearly based off of the real life Mimawarigumi who were contemporaries of the famed Shinsengumi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Mimawarigumi

 

[Koro]

Always speculate, mostly historical,
- Denjiro, ashura, inu, kappa, neko can get numbers, jack or maybe quenn/smoothie
- Kinemon, kiku, Raizou, shinobu (plus robin, brook, nami) can get oniwabanshu, mimawarigumi, etc

 

[Gintoki]

They'll fight the numbers

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Kinemon vs Kanjuro
Kinemons mission since his introduction was to save Momo and now Momo is kidnapped by Kanjuro which is a good opportunity for them to clash

Raizo vs Fukurojuku
They are rival and both of them are ninja

Nekomamushi and Inuarashi vs Jack
They have unfinished business in Zou and this is also a good chance to see Jack hybrid form and Nekomamushi and Inuarashi Sulong form

Denjiro vs Mimawarigumi leader
Mimawarigumi are a group of elite samurais well respected in the Flower Capital, capable enough to be entrusted by Orochi to be his personal bodyguards and Denjiro was Orochi former personal bodyguard so this is a perfect match up imo.

If Shinobu becomes the next scabbard she might fight Hanzo
She encountered Hanzo before Hiyori's fake death and they seemed to know each other. Hanzo Hattori was also one of the most famous ninja historically so Hanzo might defect when he fights Shinobu.

Ashura Doji, Okiku and Kawamatsu might fight numbers or another unknown forces of Beast Pirates

 

[Bil02]

You guys do realize that this war is just to set up a situation for the scabbards to take kaido's head right?
Hyogoro,Law and silician both said that this chapter
Law:"I can send you guys to the island with my power"
Hyogoro: "we know this war is just a fight to send the scabbards where they will finish kaido "
Silician"If we just go with you(law) and attack by the secret entrance,then what about the scabbards?"
It is obvious the scabbards are being set up for a fight against kaido himself.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Inuarashi + Nekumamushi vs Jack
Kinemon vs Kanjuro
Raizo vs Fukurokojo
Asura Douji + Denjiro (in Luffy's team) vs Kaido (I think Kidd will have his different team against Big Mom, Jinbe will be with him)
Kiku + Izo (Brotherly touchy reunion tag team) vs TWO NUMBERS
Kawamatsu vs Number
Shinobu vs an Oniwabanshu member

So basically it will be different type of fights... depending on connection... bonds... and also strength.... and not that Red scabbard will only fight one specific group...

However... IFF there was only ONE GROUP Oda will make them fight.... Then I will choose the numbers... considering I believe they are around 10 numbers from 1-10 which is around the same number of Red Scabbard (excluding Kanjuro, while counting Izo and Shinobu)

But I believe connections... rivals... bonds... history and strength shown is more important than just matching up red Scabbard to one group...

For example, Inu and Neku have history... bond.. revenge and strength related to Jack
Raizo was said to be Fukurokojo's Rival... and both are Ninja... and Raizo former Oniwabanshu
Kanjuro seemed connected to Kinemon more than other scabbards...etc

 

[Bil02]

Law himself said that he,luffy,Eustass&the scabbards are the ones they will want to get rid of..
Kaido being the head of the beast pirates and having already told Orochi he wants to meet the scabbards,definitely means the scabbards are going to fight him at some point.
I know people fanboy over law/Kid/Luffy vs kaido but the major protagonists of this arc are first and for most,the scabbards.
When the scabbards fail,then the Supernova are going to step up to the task,but not before.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

You guys do realize that this war is just to set up a situation for the scabbards to take kaido's head right?
Hyogoro,Law and silician both said that this chapter
Law:"I can send you guys to the island with my power"
Hyogoro: "we know this war is just a fight to send the scabbards where they will finish kaido "
Silician"If we just go with you(law) and attack by the secret entrance,then what about the scabbards?"
It is obvious the scabbards are being set up for a fight against kaido himself.

Yea set up.to get manhandled