Versus Battle Ousen Army Vs Renpa Army (Read the OP)

[Lee Ba Shou]

Another big ass war thread for you guys:

Ousen Army:

Spoiler

Army Leader***

Name: Ou Sen
Rank: General
Achievements/Hype: Said to have strategic acumen on the level of Qin’s 6 Great Generals back when they were alive and active. Considered a General on par with Qin’s 6. Entrusted by Shouheikun to lead the most difficult campaign thus far in the story.

Name: A Kou
Rank: General, Ou Sen Army First Commander
Achievements/Hype: Fought off a double-team attack from Gyou’Un and Banaji for quite some time (he was ultimately overwhelmed). Capable of pulling off some of Ou Sen’s tactics. Bananji remarked that had A Kou not chosen to serve Ou Sen, his abilities would be expected of ‘the Supreme Commander of a Massive Army.’

Name: Ouhon
Rank: 5,000 Man Commander
Achievements/Hype: His Grand strategy was responsible a Qin victory at Chiyoyou despite an overwhelming disadvantage. Personally slayed Earl Shi of the Fire Dragons in combat. Survived Gyou’Un’s Raigoku, a technique that had slayed a Great Generals in the past, and severely wounded Gyou’Un himself (though Ouhon was ultimately defeated). Considered to have the talent of Qin’s 6, despite his young age

Name: Mou Ten
Rank: 5,000 Man Commander
Achievements/Hype: Numerous. Prevented the collapse of the Ma Kou Army against all odds. Shou Hei Kun’s most talented student. Considered to be on par with Qin’s 6 GGs despite his youth.

Name: Shin
Rank: 5,000 Man Commander
Achievements/Hype: Has slayed many Generals over the course of the course of the series, noteably Keisha Of Zhao. Once repelled a wounded Hou Ken. Fought Gyou’Un to a stand still (though he would’ve lost had the fight continued). Slayed Gakuei in 1 blow. Slayed Chou Garyuu with moderate difficulty. Instinctually matched Gyou’Un, a top tier Instinctual. Considered to be on par with Qin’s 6 despite his youth.

VS

Renpa Army

Spoiler

Army Leader***

Name: Renpa
Rank: Three Great Heavens (Former), Great General
Achievements/Hype: Considered to be one of the greatest generals in the history of China. Battled on numerous occasions with the other greatest generals in history as an equal. Riboku claimed that there was no general capable of defeating Renpa after the deaths of Ouki and Gekishin

Name: Rinko
Rank: Heavenly King
Achievements/Hype: Known for extremely strong offensive formations. Once broke through Ouki's defensive formations and landed a blow on him. Renpa claimed that once he was 'let loose', he was unstoppable

Name: Kaishibou
Rank: Heavenly King
Achievements/Hype: Said to have the same brute power as Renpa himself. Earned over a hundred victories when he was operating as a solo commander. Quickly destroyed Kanki's Headquarters even though it was defended by Raido.

Name: Kyou En
Rank: Heavenly King, one of the Ten Bows of China
Achievements/Hype: Fought against with 4 of the 6 Qin Great Generals in the past. Fought against Renpa himself before joining him, Renpa stated Kyou En "burned his hands" a few times. Is one of the Top Ten Archers in all of China

Name: Genpou
Rank: Heavenly King
Achievements/Hype: Taught Renpa and Rinko tactics. Renpa called him a mind so great that he could serve as the head of the entire Zhao military.

Since Ousen’s army appears to have a clear advantage here, let’s make things a bit more interesting:

Ousen Army Numbers
Ousen Main Army: 50K
Akou Army: 20K
Gyoku Hou Unit (Ouhon): 6K
Gaku Ka Unit (Mou Ten): 5K
Hi Shin Unit (Shin): 8K

Renpa Army Numbers:
Renpa Main Army: 50K
Rinko Army: 20K
Kaishibou Army: 20K
Kyou En Army: 20K
Genpo Army: 20K

Each Commander has their own usual members, so Shin has Kyoukai, Karyo Ten, etc. Kaishibou has his elites, Rinko has his bodyguards, etc etc etc

Battle ends when either Renpa or Ousen is slain.

I will give a detailed post with my thoughts later. Who Wins and Why?

@Owl Ki @Xione @Edward Teach @Yo Tan Wa

 

[Blackbeard]

This is one of the battles that you just can't decide the winner without seeing it on panel. pretty much like Hakuki and Riboku. Ousen was like an unreachable mountain back in the Mougu / Renpa war. even when commanding his own army without Shin/Mouten's units Renpa still found a lot of trouble trying to reach him.

If Ousen take advantage of natural fortifications forming a defense position trying to wear down Renpa's forces then it would turn into a siege. Renpa won't be able to reach Ousen and his vassals and general would be taken down by the five thousand commanders. but Renpa himself won't be bested in the battle. stalemate. if it's in character, Renpa would lose and retreat, but definitely not killed.

 

[Xione]

Rating by commander:

1. Renpa
2. Ousen
3. Genpo
4. Mouten
5. Akou

So 3 of the 5 top commanders of the battlefield belong to Ousen's army.


Rating by combat:

1. Renpa
2. Kyoukai
3. Shin
4. Ouhon
5. Ousen

4 of the top 5 combatants belong to Ousen's army.



In battle of strong commanders the Ousen army clearly has the advantage, and since the win is determined by slaying Renpa or Ousen. The Ousen army has enough monsters to make it happen.

 

[Shanks]

@Admiral Lee Hung bro you made OuSen's army just too strong by adding these three independent units.

Some match ups -

OuSen vs Renpa would be stalemate and same goes for Akou and KaishiBoi.

OuHon vs Genpo would be an high diff win for OuHon, coz Genpo is a monster in mobilising his troops and using high level tactics or formations. But OuHon still can slay him in the end.

Shin vs Rinko - That already has happened in past with Shin being victorious. Though if happens with his 8K army and current men than it would be mid difficulty at most for him.

MouTen vs KyouEn - I've put MouTen here only coz of KyouEn is very highly talented general who has survived against greatest general like HakuKi and many more. So MouTen is the only one besides OuSen who could either win against hin or put on stalemate, leaning towards later one (lol).

Later on either Shin or OuHon or both can go and assist OuSen in dealing with Renpa.

 

[Lee Ba Shou]

@Admiral Lee Hung bro you made OuSen's army just too strong by adding these three independent units.

Some match ups -

OuSen vs Renpa would be stalemate and same goes for Akou and KaishiBoi.

OuHon vs Genpo would be an high diff win for OuHon, coz Genpo is a monster in mobilising his troops and using high level tactics or formations. But OuHon still can slay him in the end.

Shin vs Rinko - That already has happened in past with Shin being victorious. Though if happens with his 8K army and current men than it would be mid difficulty at most for him.

MouTen vs KyouEn - I've put MouTen here only coz of KyouEn is very highly talented general who has survived against greatest general like HakuKi and many more. So MouTen is the only one besides OuSen who could either win against hin or put on stalemate, leaning towards later one (lol).

Later on either Shin or OuHon or both can go and assist OuSen in dealing with Renpa.

Don’t forget about the numerical difference lol.

Renpa’s army has much more Troops

 

[Shanks]

Don’t forget about the numerical difference lol.

Renpa’s army has much more Troops

Yup i saw that.

But previously, Shin and OuHon already defeated Rinko when both had numerical disadvantage as well as strength and experience also.

Another thing is current GKH, HSU and GKK are no less than a general's army and each captain is GG level. Even with numerical disadvantage they can surprise us.

We've seen this in coalition war and battle of sai that numerical advantage doesn't provide much advantage to coalition even though each and every single one of there general was a monster. While current OuHon and MouTen are definitely of the same calibre as qin generals of coalition arc.