Passione Gangsters vs Phantom troupe

[ImmaIvanoM]

Passione Gangsters (Without Bruno gang)

1. Doppio/Diavolo
2. Cioccolata
3. Secco
4. Tiziano
5. Squalo
6. Carne
7. Rissoto
8. Ghaccio
9. Melone
10. Pesci
11. Prosciutto
12. Illuso
13. Formaggio
14. Sale
15. Mario

Phantom Troupe

1. Chrollo
2. Hisoka
3. Illumi
4. Kalluto
5. Uvogin
6. Phinks
7. Nobunaga
8. Kortopi
9. Franklin
10. Shimuzu
11. Pakunoda
12. Shalnark
13. Machi
14. Bonolenov
15. Feitan

Restrictions

• Nen is required to harm Stands
• Gyo is required to see stands
• Zetsu can be used to sense stands
• Stands are living things so Shimuzu can't suck them up
• Killing the stand user is of course a viable option
• Mind control works on Stand users but not their stands.
• King Crimson works according to how it's been demonstrated to work.

 

[Enma]

Passione stomps. Gen'ei Ryodan can't even react to Stands, let alone those like Diavolo's King Crimson and Rissoto's Metallica.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Gen'ei Ryodan

Whats this?

 

[Enma]

Whats this?

Japanese name for Phantom Troupe

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Japanese name for Phantom Troupe

Oh. I think they can react to stands.

I put a restriction that Gyo and Zetsu can allow them to percieve stands.

And speed wise most of them don't have the ability to go hand to hand with stands but they have their other abilities that can be useful

 

[Enma]

Oh. I think they can react to stands.

I put a restriction that Gyo and Zetsu can allow them to percieve stands.

And speed wise most of them don't have the ability to go hand to hand with stands but they have their other abilities that can be useful

Still, King Crimson, BIG, Green Day, Metallica and Illuso (if he caught them in Mirror World) would be a literal pain in the ass. I don't see PT winning this.

Isn't all A speed stands are FTL? Does HxH have FTL feats?

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Still, King Crimson, BIG, Green Day, Metallica and Illuso (if he caught them in Mirror World) would be a literal pain in the ass. I don't see PT winning this.

Isn't all A speed stands are FTL? Does HxH have FTL feats?

Man in the mirror is mostly effective on stand users. At best it would be used to cause confusion but in actual combat it's not that string

Every other stand including King crimsom have the problem of range which most of the troupe don't have. Except of course green day which is probably the most dangerous ability among all these

 

[Enma]

Man in the mirror is mostly effective on stand users. At best it would be used to cause confusion but in actual combat it's not that string

Every other stand including King crimsom have the problem of range which most of the troupe don't have. Except of course green day which is probably the most dangerous ability among all these

Range for KC is irrelevant in most of cases because of Time-Erase. Green Day, BIG and Metallica doesn't have range problems. Don't know much about other stands.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Isn't all A speed stands are FTL? Does HxH have FTL feat

FTL is somewhat arguable even for stands.

In part five the fastest stands are obviously King Crimson, GER, and maybe sticky fingers and Gold experience. It's hard to find any ftl feats for them

What's generally the base speed of even slower stands is hyper sonic because guys like Sale can even react to multiple bullets shot at them with just hand to hand

So if low ball speed is hyper sonic then high ball could maybe be massively hypersonic to sub relativistic at best. FTL is a big stretch

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Range for KC is irrelevant in most of cases because of Time-Erase. Green Day, BIG and Metallica doesn't have range problems. Don't know much about other stands.

Time erase is universal but he can't kill you unless you are in a range

Metallica as I recall had range. Maybe when it infects you it No longer has a range but to actually infect someone with Metallica I think you must be close.

Actually let me go check on this

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Range for KC is irrelevant in most of cases because of Time-Erase. Green Day, BIG and Metallica doesn't have range problems. Don't know much about other stands.

I've checked, Metallica is a C in range. 5-10 meters

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

An interesting situation regarding this fight is mind control

Does Illumi or Shalnark's mind control work on stands? I don't think so.

But does their mind control work on stand users? I think it does.

But when the stand user is mind controlled, does the mind control affect the stand itself? Again I don't think so.