Versus Battle Phantom Troupe vs Big Meme Pirates ( minus Meme)

#1
Restrictions:
- Non
- Nen = Haki
- Pure bloodlust


Location: Whole Cake island

Round 1: PT vs Meme Pirates ( minus Meme)
Round 2: Add Hisoka and Uvogin in team PT. Add Skinny Meme for team BMPs.

My Opinion: PT mid - high diffs them. BMPs are notorious for low DC and incompetent members. Their endurance isnt really special either. Katakuro got defeated in not that many hits....and Cracker only needs one hit to go down. Cracker's clones are also useless because Shizuku will vaccum them all up. But I would say Illumi would take care of him even more easily

My matchups:

Chrollo vs Katakuri
Feitan vs Smoothie
Illumi vs Cracker
Phinks vs Oven
Shizuku vs Daifuku

Nobunaga, Bonovoleo, Machi, Franklin and Kalluto vs the rest of the fodder.
 
#3
Stop it Chrono. Pls.
All SCs individually solo them all.
Why do you love to downplay them the entire time ? Im confused.

How can any of them solo the PT. What can Cracker do. Shizuku could vaccum up his soldiers. Illumi could make them his dolls.

Like seriously what can they do. The OP verse isnt faster....idgaf
 
#7
Katakuri kills them all with jellybeans. 5 seconds tops.
Literally this. No one will escape a single jellybean, simply a fodder move aimed at fodder. And guess what are the phantom troupes for Katakuri? Fodders.

Why do you love to downplay them the entire time
These dudes are hypersonic at best with extremely weak AP.
OP high tiers have massively hypersonic+ including island lv+ AP. Even Cracker, the weakest of the SCs, would easily stomp all of them effortlessly. They are like statues compared to Cracker.

And no, I'm not even talking about Katakuri; dude destroys them with fodder moves.
Case closed.

How can any of them solo the PT.
Already addressed it above.

What can Cracker do.
Speedblitzing the fuck outta them.
MHS+ vs HS - do the math.

Shizuku could vaccum up his soldiers.
Before she does anything like that, Cracker would have already cut her head off.
Once again, speed differences.

Illumi could make them his dolls.
Unfortunately he's just another victim for the jellybean.

The OP verse isnt faster...
Except they are faster.
Several users already provided this with several accepted calcs on multiple sites.
 
#8
Literally this. No one will escape a single jellybean, simply a fodder move aimed at fodder. And guess what are the phantom troupes for Katakuri? Fodders.



These dudes are hypersonic at best with extremely weak AP.
OP high tiers have massively hypersonic+ including island lv+ AP. Even Cracker, the weakest of the SCs, would easily stomp all of them effortlessly. They are like statues compared to Cracker.

And no, I'm not even talking about Katakuri; dude destroys them with fodder moves.
Case closed.



Already addressed it above.



Speedblitzing the fuck outta them.
MHS+ vs HS - do the math.



Before she does anything like that, Cracker would have already cut her head off.
Once again, speed differences.



Unfortunately he's just another victim for the jellybean.



Except they are faster.
Several users already provided this with several accepted calcs on multiple sites.
Yall are acc stupid. What makes them this speed ?

WHAT FEATS ????

And I dare you say dodging lazers. Im so tired of all this dumb overhype.
 
#11
Yall are acc stupid.
Sure, sure.

What makes them this speed ?
Yeah, they're probably just taking these calcs out on their asses, right? Lol.

Anyway, read this:

Kalifa's feat
I didn't even know they did a calc for the Supernovas
Katakuri scales up to Marco, hence he is even relativistic+ according to this calc. GG Phantom Troupe

I hope this is enough. I'm not going to bother with that crap anymore.

And I dare you say dodging lazers.
Combat speed >> travel speed all day, whether you like it or not.
 
#12
I think this fully be my last Hunter thread. Yall are just disrespectful at this point.


KaTAkuRi kIlLs tHEm aLL wiTH a JelLyBeaN

Oh is that so....then explain me why Uvogin can do the same feat....but better.






As for DC, members weaker than Chrollo have equal/higher lvl DC compared to Katakuri.









As Feitan's AoE is high as well

 
#13
I think this fully be my last Hunter thread.
Dude, you are comparing the HxH verse with the HST verses after all, what did you expect? You can compare the HxH verse with weaker verses, e. g. the MHA verse.

Yall are just disrespectful at this point.
Disrespectful at saying massively stronger characters beat the crap outta weaker characters? Are you going to say people are disrespectful by saying MUI Goku solos the OP verse as well? Stop crying.

KaTAkuRi kIlLs tHEm aLL wiTH a JelLyBeaN
Dude is scaled to Marco who's relativistic+ and dude freaks out about the idea of same dude sniping weaklings with FS and jellybeans, lol.
Those jellybeans were used as a hypetool for Sanji's CoO - are you going to say these characters could achieve - not that they can - the same feat as Sanji? Sure.

then explain me why Uvogin can do the same feat....but better
Okay, throwing strength between town level character and island lv+ character...
WhO cOuLd WiN?!?!

As for DC, members weaker than Chrollo have equal/higher lvl DC compared to Katakuri.
Katakuri's AP: island level+
Phantom Troupe's AP: town level.

:nicagesmile:

As Feitan's AoE is high as well
It's nice for Feitan; he still gets speedblitzed by Katakuri.
 
#14
Yeah, they're probably just taking these calcs out on their asses, right? Lol.

Anyway, read this:

Kalifa's feat
I didn't even know they did a calc for the Supernovas
Katakuri scales up to Marco, hence he is even relativistic+ according to this calc. GG Phantom Troupe

I hope this is enough. I'm not going to bother with that crap anymore.



Combat speed >> travel speed all day, whether you like it or not.

An Actual lightning bolt has a voltage of 1 billion. Enel the most strongest lightning user....went up till 200, 000, 000 volts. Again im not believing OP lighting = Real Life Lightning.

Good bye
 
#15
Dude, you are comparing the HxH verse with the HST verses after all, what did you expect? You can compare the HxH verse with weaker verses, e. g. the MHA verse.



Disrespectful at saying massively stronger characters beat the crap outta weaker characters? Are you going to say people are disrespectful by saying MUI Goku solos the OP verse as well? Stop crying.



Dude is scaled to Marco who's relativistic+ and dude freaks out about the idea of same dude sniping weaklings with FS and jellybeans, lol.
Those jellybeans were used as a hypetool for Sanji's CoO - are you going to say these characters could achieve - not that they can - the same feat as Sanji? Sure.



Okay, throwing strength between town level character and island lv+ character...
WhO cOuLd WiN?!?!



Katakuri's AP: island level+
Phantom Troupe's AP: town level.

:nicagesmile:



It's nice for Feitan; he still gets speedblitzed by Katakuri.
Actual lazers that move at lightspeed, can be reflected and are intanglible. OP lazers are not....only thing is the Noro Beam that is LS.

Again good bye.
 
#16
Actual lightning bolts have a voltage of 1 billion. Enel the most strongest lightning user....went up till 200, 000, 000 volts. Again im not believing OP lighting = Real Life Lightning.

Good bye
Are you going to disregard every single elemental speed feat cause of real life physics? Good luck by comparing two different verses then, lol.

Actual lazers that move at lightspeed, can be reflected and are intanglible. OP lazers are not....only thing is the Noro Beam that is LS.
Once again: Are you going to disregard every single elemental speed feat cause of real life physics? Good luck by comparing two different verses then, lol.
 
#17
Are you going to disregard every single elemental speed feat cause of real life physics? Good luck by comparing two different verses then, lol.
Why tf should I.

Should I say all Nen is Light Speed because aura emits light. Should I say that emitters have light speed attacks and that Bungee Gum is also Light speed.

Cmon keep the same energy sis.
 
#18
Why tf should I.
You ask for speed feats, we post you speed feats, then you suddenly say "Hell no! That ain't real light/lightning!".
Like you are nitpicking every kind of detail only to not admit that the HxH verse isn't as strong as you imagined it to be.

Should I say all Nen is Light Speed because aura emits light.
Kizaru is a light man - logia fruits are always based on natural elements - whose speed was always called as such, speed of light.
It was called as such in the manga and in the databook as well.

Are you going to say Aokiji creating ice isn't real ice? Are you going to say Ace' flames are not like real flames? Are you going to say Akainu's magma is not real magma cause of [insert reason]? That's moronic...

Should I say that emitters have light speed attacks and that Bungee Gum is also Light speed.
You can say that, it's just baseless, though, lol.

Cmon keep the same energy sis.
Except yours have not any kind of similarities with Kizaru's abilities, sis.
 
#19
Kizaru is a light man - logia fruits are always based on natural elements - whose speed was always called as such, speed of light.
It was called as such in the manga and in the databook as well.
Enel is a lightning man, but his strongest attack isnt anywhere close to the power of an actual lightning bolt. All of Enels powers have different volatage anyways. Why are we supposed to believe all Kizaru attacks are the same speed.

As of now, Kizaru has only said one of his attacks are Lightspeed. And no suprise...he has to use a technique to actually move at LS.

As of now, his lazers arent said to be LS. And I wont believe it till it is said.

Its not nitpicking. Its debunking. It isnt fair to use elemental shit for one Verse and not the other.



Are you going to say Aokiji creating ice isn't real ice? Are you going to say Ace' flames are not like real flames? Are you going to say Akainu's magma is not real magma cause of [insert reason]? That's moronic...
Aokiji is a Chilly Chilly man. Not Ice. Get your facts straight. He freezes....not creates ice.

These are all elements in a manga where the author isnt a scientist. Once I see a mishap within the element...why the hell would I measure up to real life.

You can say that, it's just baseless, though, lol.
Why would it be baseless ?
 
#20
At end of the day

Highest Voltage of Lightning in OP = 200, 000, 000
An actual Lightning Bolt = 1, 000, 000, 000

Actual light= Can be reflected and is intangible

Yata no Kagami = Can be reflected and is intagible

Noro Beam = Can be relflected and is intangible

Lazer = Cant be relflected and is tangible


Again, once it doesnt act like the actual element, then it doesnt get its speed unless said so in the manga.
 
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