Powers & Abilities Potential Abilities with Conqueror's Haki

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

SIMPJI
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#1
The way and manner conquerors haki has been used in fights so far is eerily similar to armament haki so here I will discuss and speculate other potential applications of this ability once a user has gone a step further with this ability than the typical fodder control.

armament haki as rayleigh puts it, its an invisible suit of armor

typically post time skip tho for most users , its indicated with a black coating



armament haki can also be used as an invisible barrier

armament haki can be used to fortify ones weapon


as stated earlier advanced conquerors or coc coating can be applied in the same way
The barrier





it can be used to fortify ones weapon




the last application of armament haki is one we are really yet to see with conquerors but before I get into that , I should note that those who attain coc coating do realize they are capable of doing the same things they use to , to a much greater degree than armament haki .
here's luffy calling his attacks too shallow even with the most advanced form of armament



we are yet to see someone coat themselves with conqueror's haki in a defensive manner as we see in armament or have we . armament haki does provide some sort of durability against attacks that would normally hurt its user which can easily be seen here .



given conquerors amplifies what armament haki does to a far greater degree (in this case pertaining to ones durability) I believe we have already seen the applications of this in practice

1. big mom

unlike kaido whose durability has almost always been credited to the df he was given by big mom .big mom's durability remains ambiguous.


however unlike kaido there is a period in time where she is vulnerable which ultimately confirms it is a conscious ability on her part that can and has been deactivated .

when the mother caramel photo was smashed and her spirit was broken


Second part of this will pertain to black blades but pending the conclusion of the arc I am not so sure my speculation is correct.
feel free to leave your thoughts and if you feel I should post the second part I will.


a few tags
@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS @Extravlad @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori @sanjikun @ConquistadoR @Steven @Echizen_Jo_Ndule @Rosella.Fiamingo @HA001 @Doggo @Chrono @Light D Lamperouge @Fujishiro @Jailer @Hades @Franosuke @rerere @Pantheos @Roo @Seraphoenix @God Buggy @Yo Tan Wa @RayanOO @Albino 👑 @Tejas @Finalbeta @Red Admiral @Trafalgar_D_Law @TheAncientCenturion @Gol D. Roger @comrade and to anyone else who I might be missing here.
 
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Gol D. Roger

Gol D. Roger

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LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
talking about this right?


yeah but it seems like he is using the barrier each time
he isnt using it to make himself durable enough to take the attacks.
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Yeah, we've yet to see it being used defensively. The closest I'd say is Luffy using it to stop Kaido in Chapter-1037:


He wasn't using CoA here but you'd need magnifying glasses to see it.
 
Jailer

Jailer

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It would have been interesting if CoC coating is serves as an amplifier to CoA and CoO instead of making it CoA look alike.

I believe Shanks and Mihawk have a higher stage of CoC haki with advanced CoA and Mihawk's black blade, they don't have any df's they have to have some sort of extra haki ability in order to compete with WB/BB/Kaido/Linlin who have df's on top of their what we call advanced haki, especially BB having two of them, that rule should even moreso apply to Shanks who has one arm yet became a Yonko with just one arm.

That rule will probably apply to Garp too who again has no df but fists as his main weapon, yet somehow he matched the likes of WB in his prime.
 
ConquistadoR

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
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Regarding BM's durability, not really sure about that. COC has shown to give someone a barrier like defense as we've seen with Luffy but not sure whether BM's iron skin falls under this category.



Another application whose existence you can almost bet money on at this point would be different variations in the barrier COC/COA based defense IMO.

There will be a solid mechanic which allows it's user to combat Logia/Producer Paramecia awakenings - ex: Flowing Mochi, Ever White, the same but with the Magma, Ice logias etc,. There must be a mechanic else there is no way a grounded CQC based weapon user like Kaidou, Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, Newgate, Zoro etc,. handle these awakenings, especially when the awakening user is closer to their powerlevel and won't go down in two or three moves.
 
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Sasaki Kojirō

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LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
The way and manner conquerors haki has been used in fights so far is eerily similar to armament haki so here I will discuss and speculate other potential applications of this ability once a user has gone a step further with this ability than the typical fodder control.

armament haki as rayleigh puts it, its an invisible suit of armor

typically post time skip tho for most users , its indicated with a black coating



armament haki can also be used as an invisible barrier

armament haki can be used to fortify ones weapon


as stated earlier advanced conquerors or coc coating can be applied in the same way
The barrier





it can be used to fortify ones weapon




the last application of armament haki is one we are really yet to see with conquerors but before I get into that , I should note that those who attain coc coating do realize they are capable of doing the same things they use to , to a much greater degree than armament haki .
here's luffy calling his attacks too shallow even with the most advanced form of armament



we are yet to see someone coat themselves with conqueror's haki in a defensive manner as we see in armament or have we . armament haki does provide some sort of durability against attacks that would normally hurt its user which can easily be seen here .



given conquerors amplifies what armament haki does to a far greater degree (in this case pertaining to ones durability) I believe we have already seen the applications of this in practice

1. big mom

unlike kaido whose durability has almost always been credited to the df he was given by big mom .big mom's durability remains ambiguous.


however unlike kaido there is a period in time where she is vulnerable which ultimately confirms it is a conscious ability on her part that can and has been deactivated .

when the mother caramel photo was smashed and her spirit was broken


Second part of this will pertain to black blades but pending the conclusion of the arc I am not so sure my speculation is correct.
feel free to leave your thoughts and if you feel I should post the second part I will.


a few tags
@Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @ODIAK D.TSEGNORTS @Extravlad @MonsterKaido @Hanzo hattori @sanjikun @ConquistadoR @Steven @Echizen_Jo_Ndule @Rosella.Fiamingo @HA001 @Doggo @Chrono @Light D Lamperouge @Fujishiro @Jailer @Hades @Franosuke @rerere @Pantheos @Roo @Seraphoenix @God Buggy @Yo Tan Wa @RayanOO @Albino 👑 @Tejas @Finalbeta @Red Admiral @Trafalgar_D_Law @TheAncientCenturion @Gol D. Roger @comrade and to anyone else who I might be missing here.
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Wait a minute I'm thinking.

I have no idea.

Leaving the joke aside, in the next few hours or days I will be returning here, to explain.
 
LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

SIMPJI
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Jailer said:
It would have been interesting if CoC coating is serves as an amplifier to CoA and CoO instead of making it CoA look alike.

I believe Shanks and Mihawk have a higher stage of CoC haki with advanced CoA and Mihawk's black blade, they don't have any df's they have to have some sort of extra haki ability in order to compete with WB/BB/Kaido/Linlin who have df's on top of their what we call advanced haki, especially BB having two of them, that rule should even moreso apply to Shanks who has one arm yet became a Yonko with just one arm.

That rule will probably apply to Garp too who again has no df but fists as his main weapon, yet somehow he matched the likes of WB in his prime.
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This is def still a possibility and perhaps that's what coc coating really is . An amplifier for the more natural types of haki
one issue with it would be luffy gaining future sight independently from conquerors
but perhaps there's more to observation and the advanced stages of it than we have seen .

hk1992 said:
I think COC Can also be used to perform some mysthic conjurations, like ashura for zoro, which us stated to be a form of COC (despite the absence of black lightning). This would work like a Magic ability and not an AP booster ability
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good shout actually won't be surprised if this is the actual explanation of that scene because it's clearly different. while kaido implies he used conquerors it certainly does lack the typical indicators , perhaps that's what ashura is.

rerere said:
Apparently, Conquerors Haki was used in a defensive way when Linlin tried to hold off the first Damned Punk.
I wouldn't exclude the possibility of CoC having this kind of application too.
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this here correct?
 
L55

L55

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LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
This is def still a possibility and perhaps that's what coc coating really is . An amplifier for the more natural types of haki
one issue with it would be luffy gaining future sight independently from conquerors
but perhaps there's more to observation and the advanced stages of it than we have seen .


good shout actually won't be surprised if this is the actual explanation of that scene because it's clearly different. while kaido implies he used conquerors it certainly does lack the typical indicators , perhaps that's what ashura is.


this here correct?
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Not coc
If she used it people would be ko
Just like zoro did in 1033
 
LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

SIMPJI
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ConquistadoR said:
Regarding BM's durability, not really sure about that. COC has shown to give someone a barrier like defense as we've seen with Luffy but not sure whether BM's iron skin falls under this category.



Another application whose existence you can almost bet money on at this point would be different variations in the barrier COC/COA based defense IMO.

There will be a solid mechanic which allows it's user to combat Logia/Producer Paramecia awakenings - ex: Flowing Mochi, Ever White, the same but with the Magma, Ice logias etc,. There must be a mechanic else there is no way a grounded CQC based weapon user like Kaidou, Shanks, Mihawk, Roger, Newgate, Zoro etc,. handle these awakenings, especially when the awakening user is closer to their powerlevel and won't go down in two or three moves.
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big mom's iron tough skin doesnt fall in this category but if it was natural it should be on constantly
Not something she can turn on and off.
since armament has not only has the barrier , but also the ability to be worn as a suit of armor,I believe coc does too.
 
Jailer

Jailer

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LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
This is def still a possibility and perhaps that's what coc coating really is . An amplifier for the more natural types of haki
one issue with it would be luffy gaining future sight independently from conquerors
but perhaps there's more to observation and the advanced stages of it than we have seen
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Fs could be like Advanced CoA, but CoC coating and stronger versions of it amplifying CoA. Would be dope if it's uaed that way and it's used as an amplifier for CoO too, but unsure how that would work.
 
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