Current Events Putting Into Perspective Just How Weak Current Sukuna Is With Black Flash Math

#1
It's established in the introduction of the ability that black flash increases the impact of a reinforced hit to the 2.5th power:



Gege himself later doubles down on this:



Damage output being risen to the 2.5th power is a massive buff, and this becomes particularly obvious the higher the base of the exponent.

If the impact of a punch was rated as a 1, the black flash version of that punch would be 1^2.5 or 1.
If the impact of a punch was rated as a 4, the black flash version of that punch would be 4^2.5 or 32.
If the impact of a punch was rated as a 10, the black flash version of that punch would be 10^2.5 or ~316.

This massive power increase as the base attack power increases is why one single black flash from Mahito did this to Todo who was reinforcing his stomach with all of cursed energy:





Now to Sukuna in the current manga

Say hypothetically that Sukuna was at roughly 10 fingers worth of power. The impact from his black flashes would be equivalent to getting punched by 316 finger Sukuna.

Does this seem consistent with what is actually being shown?

Larue (a first grade sorcerer) and Choso both eat a black flash and are able to walk after it.




Maki takes no damage from TWO of Sukuna's black flashes.

Do these characters look like they just got punched by the equivalent of a 316-finger Sukuna?

Hell no.

The obvious explanation is that these attacks are from a version of Sukuna so weak, that the black flashes probably don't even scale that much above basic reinforced punches from a 20F Sukuna.

The most consistent scale with the black flashes not turning everyone into mist is that the current Sukuna is around 5F or lower.
A black flash from 5F Sukuna would be equivalent to getting punched by over 50F Sukuna.
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#4
Gege just said that BF is ^2.5 instead of x2.5 because he wanted to sound smarter. It's pretty obvious it doesn't actually work that way, otherwise Gojo's BF and Sukuna's BF would be blowing up the planet
 
#6
I don't really subscribe to the black flash math thing because mangaka usually throw numbers around without actually knowing what they mean (which Gege has been "exposed" for multiple times with Limitless and Black Flash) but I see where you're coming from

You really don't even have to use black flash math tbh

Just compare his current performance to 15F Sukuna's

Sukuna directly compared Yuta and Yuji's durability to Ryu's and said that at best they're on par with him


Mind you, 15F Sukuna at the height of his power was able to one shot and split Ryu into 3 with a single cleave


Current Sukuna before his output dropped even further from the soul punches was unable to kill Yuji with that same cleave. He wasn't down for more than a panel before hopping up and getting back to work


Again, this is before Yuta's Maximum Output Jacob's Ladder and Yuji's last few soul damaging strikes that further reduced his output and control of his body


Current Sukuna might not even be 10 Finger level

15F Sukuna shouldn't even be in the conversation
 
#7
Gege just said that BF is ^2.5 instead of x2.5 because he wanted to sound smarter. It's pretty obvious it doesn't actually work that way, otherwise Gojo's BF and Sukuna's BF would be blowing up the planet
Pretty much, Gege is an idiot who doesn't understand math, even the simplest amount of thought will tell you that black flash simply cannot be ^2.5 because any JJK character hit by it would be atomized along with the planet they're standing on, and if you want to use the fiction excuse and pretend math or logic doesn't matter, well then you invalidate the whole thing to begin with lmfao.
 
#8
Gege just said that BF is ^2.5 instead of x2.5 because he wanted to sound smarter. It's pretty obvious it doesn't actually work that way, otherwise Gojo's BF and Sukuna's BF would be blowing up the planet
Pretty much, Gege is an idiot who doesn't understand math, even the simplest amount of thought will tell you that black flash simply cannot be ^2.5 because any JJK character hit by it would be atomized along with the planet they're standing on, and if you want to use the fiction excuse and pretend math or logic doesn't matter, well then you invalidate the whole thing to begin with lmfao.
Mahito’s body of distorted killing explicitly makes his skin hundreds of times stronger.

Yuji’s reaction to learning that was “I need to hit him with black flash.”

Gege thinks about this stuff more than you think lol
 
#10
he was alrdy at 10 fingers when he started fighting yuta



and can we also talk abt that we kinda got a scaling for yuji's punches and the nerf sukuna gets ?

yuji punched sukuna like 2 times and that was more than enough to negate sukuna's amp of black flashes as choso said

sukuna is slowly getting amped through BF but yuji is just pushing it back
black flash boosts u to 120% of ur full potential
and a couple of yuji's punches are starting to negate that
also the effect of cleave on yuji is very evident as this guy said

Current Sukuna before his output dropped even further from the soul punches was unable to kill Yuji with that same cleave. He wasn't down for more than a panel before hopping up and getting back to work

mind u that even before this sukuna was able to completely cleave yuji's entire torso apart ( the difference being higu's fight )

the choso comparison is also too nasty

going from this

to this
 
#14
Fingers are just CE not CE output or body strength. So this math of yours doesn't make sense.

But I agree with the premise that his BF doesn't make sense for being this weak. Also he started to heal because BF unlocks his CE or some shit like that. Puts the sorcerer into a flow that he has clarity of his powers and stuff like that. And that's why u don't understand Yuji hitting 4 black flashes in a row at the beginning of story was such a huge feat. I mean after you hit the first is easier to hit the rest isn't?
 
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