General & Others Rank the hokage

#21
Justified assassinations
The world is better off without the Uchiha clan
Justified
Justified

danzo best hokage

his era has come
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Other than setting up the Uchiha genocide
Uchiha were traitors, Trying to destroy konoha and take it over by force
they were staging a cue, it's not like danzo was going after innocent people there



Other than teaming up with enemies of the village in middle of a war to overthrow the Hokage
fan fiction never happened
he was aligned with orochimaru when he was a konoha shinobi




Other than chilling around for the Hokage and people of the village to die so he can take over
What was he supposed to do versus pein, he informed the elders so they act in defense of konoha
What else, do you want?

Him to die pointlessly versus a foe that he had no chance of winning against
He was fine with dying versus tobi and sasuke, Cause at the end of all, He had a plan to beat them that being his suicide sealing jutsu
 
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#23
It's been a while since I read Naruto, but IIRC Danzo was kind of an asshole and would've been a poor fit for Kage. Part of the role is to lead by example and inspire the ninja below you. Some eye-stealing mofo isn't gonna cut it.

Tsunade was the best from what I remember.
 
#24
I can understand Danzou’s motivations from a logistics view, but even then, he remains nothing but a pale imitation of Tobirama. Literally, the way he fought Sasuke was downright pathetic, especially considering how he couldn’t find new sharingans except for the two Sasuke had, had he won. Tobirama, He created the edo tensei, ok, but why is it his fault it was used in the 4th ninja war? Dude was a prodigy in creating techniques, sooner or later somebody else would have created something similar, the 4th ninja war is entirely Hiruzen’s and Minato’s responsibility, Hiruzen for enabling Orochimaru, Minato for killing himself, knowing a threat as dangerous as “Tobi” was around.
Hashirama is a kid in a god’s body, the worst combination possible, Kakashi was entirely offscreen so eh, Tsunade, I cannot exactly fault her for failing against Pein, at the very least she was better than Hiruzen.
I’d say: Tobirama>Danzou>Tsunade>Hiruzen>Hashirama (at least he was strong, so a deterrent for attacking the leaf)>Minato
And honestly, I don’t get why you say Tobirama was a bigot, while Danzou not. He made the Uchiha the “police” unit of Konoha, what should he have done? Kill them all and collect eyeballs?
 
#25
It's been a while since I read Naruto, but IIRC Danzo was kind of an asshole a

he was never an asshole, He tried to end his own life to save konoha and the world from the threat of madara
but ig self sacrifice for the greater good is just a asshole thing to do




how he couldn’t find new sharingans except for the two Sasuke had, had he won.
was after sasuke as he was aligned with madara (obito actually) not because he wanted new eyes
sasuke just before this was attacking the kage summit, He was threat to world peace

Danzo would of been after some traitorous man like that regardless if he was uchiha or not, He was also keen on going after kabuto was he an uchiha with eyes to steal?




obirama, He created the edo tensei, ok, but why is it his fault it was used in the 4th ninja war?

so if you create a nuke and it kills thousands of people, is it not your fault?
you created the weapon, some blame falls you there


same goes with tobirama like had he ever created edo tensei then the war would never happen, his actions directly caused the deaths of tons of his people that would by any metric make them some horrible leader




at the very least she was better than Hiruzen.
It does not take much to be better then hiruzen, he's one of the worst hokage by far
he fully admitted that he needed danzo to take care of some things cause he was not fully competent



I don’t get why you say Tobirama was a bigot, while Danzou
Tobirama, under no threat of war was talking about how uchiha are scoundrels

danzo only wanted the uchiha dead cause they were planning a cue de deat
 
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#26
Seeing people even mention Danzo, despite multiple assassination attempts on Hiruzen, is damn insane. Then allying with HANZO who was an enemy of the leaf to overthrow Hiruzen...

It's crazy how this mf said "It doesn't matter if the Uchiha coup leads to a war or not, they'll be killed regardless"... But then was flat out making plans for coups throughout decades.
 
#27
But then was flat out making plans for coups throughout decades.
Silently trying to kill hiruzen with anbu in a forest is the same as a full scale war, Using kurama to overpower everyone?
Yea no

Hiruzen was not competent and he needed to leave his position
Saru himself admitted to this, he was not a good leader




Danzo knew as much and wanted him gone
His words not mine but you cant entrust konoha to someone like him


"It doesn't matter if the Uchiha coup leads to a war or not, they'll be killed regardless"


He actually thought controlling would do no good
it's not because, he wanted blood shed

 
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#28
Silently trying to kill hiruzen with anbu in a forest is the same as a full scale war, Using kurama to overpower everyone?
Yea no

Hiruzen was not competent and he needed to leave his position
Saru himself admitted to this, he was not a good leader
My guy that was one assassination attempt lmao.


This scrub Danzo was a traitor to the Village, the idea he was some "protect the village" is non-sensical.




As far as Old Hiruzen goes.. he's a dumbass. Just like his statement was about "Itachi had the wisdom of a Hokage".. Danzo was the village's darkness, there was no other darkness in the village lmao.
 
#29
Wasn’t Tobirama technically the best? He was Hiruzen (which showed he had a good side) and Danzo’s teacher and was completely right to be suspicious about the hatred of the Uchiha. Look at Itachi’s Dad, Obito, Madara, and Sasuke. He even tried to give them a job that suited their abilities. Tobirama even had an Uchiha friend. Easily the most underrated Kage. He even was the one who invented many of the Jutsus that were improved upon later. Even after he was already dead, when Sasuke threatened the Leaf, he was the first one ready to fight to protect it.
 
#31
Danzo was the village's darkness, there was no other darkness in the village lmao.

So fugaku was the greatest person ever? With his plan to kurama to slaughter thousands
He caused the death of his entire family with plans for a cue


the idea he was some "protect the village" is non-sensical.

Was trying to get rid of nagato as he was a threat with his rinnegan





He made sure to blame nagato for the death of hanzo's family members
you can see, he's trying to play at hanzo's emotions by talking about the death of his clansmen




he put that anger onto the akatsuki, Hanzo clearly tries to find out how wronged his family quickly and danzo plays it up to get what he wants

 
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#32
So fugaku was the greatest person ever? With his plan to kurama to slaughter thousands
He caused the death of his entire family with plans for a cue




Was trying to get rid of nagato as he was a threat with his rinnegan
Oh ok we're using anime and shit for this too, Fugaku's plans happened AFTER the BS Danzo caused by having the council order the Uchiha.. which made the Uchiha the target of criticism from the Leaf villagers. The Konoha government instead of doing anything about it, kept their mouths shut. Morons like Danzo the dumbfuck did nothing but continue to plot how to screw up the village more by taking out it's strongest clan instead of trying to find resolutions. That's a scrub ass leader.


He was trying to get rid of Nagato because he needed Hanzo's help in overthrowing the HOKAGE of the village. Which is called traitor to the village. Not just any Hokage, but the Hokage that was the most beloved by the people of Konoha.


Are you being serious in defending this dumbfuck of a character or are you just trolling? (this is a genuine question)
 
#33
Fugaku's plans happened AFTER the BS Danzo caused by having the council order the Uchiha.. which made the Uchiha the target of criticism from the Leaf villagers.
untrue, Danzo only acted with the council on matters of the uchiha's clan cue after shisui informed the group of the plan which fugaku was enacting
Before that point, Danzo had no relation with any uchiha from what we know beyond kagami who was on a team for 1 known mission and that's literally it



up the village more by taking out it's strongest clan instead of trying to find resolutions. That's a scrub ass leader.
So taking out, The uchiha who wanted to unleash the kyubi onto the leaf was bad for the leaf as a whole?


Guess would of been good for konoha if a giant demon fox attacked and killed people indiscriminately.
Danzo should of done nothing and just let there be a full on civil war, With the uchiha eventually conquering and murdering thousands


Just let a internal enemy plan and scheme until they kill you, that's a horid leader. im very happy that you dont lead this country or any country for that matter
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He was trying to get rid of Nagato because he needed Hanzo's help in overthrowing the HOKAGE of the village.
How does nagato being gone, help him become hokage
your logic does not follow in the slightest
 
#34
untrue, Danzo only acted with the council on matters of the uchiha's clan cue after shisui informed the group of the plan which fugaku was enacting
Before that point, Danzo had no relation with any uchiha from what we know beyond kagami who was on a team for 1 known mission and that's literally it





So taking out, The uchiha who wanted to unleash the kyubi onto the leaf was bad for the leaf as a whole?


Guess would of been good for konoha if a giant demon fox attacked and killed people indiscriminately.
Danzo should of done nothing and just let there be a full on civil war, With the uchiha eventually conquering and murdering thousands


Just let a internal enemy plan and scheme until they kill you, that's a horid leader. im very happy that you dont lead this country or any country for that matter
Your brain: "It's ok when Danzo tries to over throw the Hokage by allying with people fighting and killing Konoha people"
"It's wrong when Uchiha justifiably try to start a coup to address the corrupt weak government of Konoha post-Minato's death"


But anyway you wanna defend this dumbfuck of a character, go right ahead. He was a traitor to the village, he was a scrub leader, only people that followed this scrub were the ones he brainwashed, scrub who rode on the coattails of people who actually did good, a scrub who couldn't do jackshit right until even his death. A jealousy filled failure who was one of the worst shinobi Konoha produced. You want to make him the best Hokage? go right ahead. Don't mention him under Tobirama, hold him above Tobirama, cause Tobirama would've slapped this scrub into the next life for the non-sense he pulled throughout the decades against the village.
 
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Your brain: "It's ok when Danzo tries to over throw the Hokage by allying with people fighting and killing Konoha people"
"It's wrong when Uchiha justifiably try to start a coup to address the corrupt weak government of Konoha post-Minato's death"
hiruzen was a bad leader and needed to get removed from power, That was danzo's motive
How does that compare to we uchiha hate konoha and wanna burn it to the ground
 
#37
he was never an asshole, He tried to end his own life to save konoha and the world from the threat of madara
but ig self sacrifice for the greater good is just a asshole thing to do






was after sasuke as he was aligned with madara (obito actually) not because he wanted new eyes
sasuke just before this was attacking the kage summit, He was threat to world peace

Danzo would of been after some traitorous man like that regardless if he was uchiha or not, He was also keen on going after kabuto was he an uchiha with eyes to steal?







so if you create a nuke and it kills thousands of people, is it not your fault?
you created the weapon, some blame falls you there


same goes with tobirama like had he ever created edo tensei then the war would never happen, his actions directly caused the deaths of tons of his people that would by any metric make them some horrible leader






It does not take much to be better then hiruzen, he's one of the worst hokage by far
he fully admitted that he needed danzo to take care of some things cause he was not fully competent





Tobirama, under no threat of war was talking about how uchiha are scoundrels

danzo only wanted the uchiha dead cause they were planning a cue de deat
Wow, is this message for real? If Oppenheimer were to stop, some other scientists closer to him, or even not that close would have continued the work. The very US Government was funding it in order to get the upperhand against the Axis. These techniques are born out of necessity in confrontations/wars, you saw yourself how a single ninja technique shaped the entire ninja war, imagine that at your disposal like the hokage resurrecting and helping against the Juubi, or better yet, imagine if the one who created that was an enemy of the leaf, and you didn’t have this technique at your disposal. What is next, the creator of swords and gunpowder? Or the pointy sticks? It’s good they’re created, and, truthfully, people like you, faulting someone from giving you an edge in a war, a problem other Countries in the case of the bomb, or Villages for the ninja techniques won’t have, which will bring a situation where eventually others will overpower you when the chips are down, not to mention, all ninja techniques are derived by the chakra tree and its manipulation of chakra by humans, this technique is not a bloodline limit, anybody skilled enough could come up with it. Needless to say, I find both your bomb and technique examples retarded.
Which really puts you in a disadvantageous spot, once you said that comment about faulting the creators, it shows you don’t give a shit about logistics, and guess what, after we eliminate logistics, Danzou is a failure even compared to Hiruzen. Presence, strength, strategy, connections, relationships with other big shots in the village, intelligence, unable to discipline Root members such as Sai, all this, horrible, even by Kishi’s standards. What are you even trying to pull off with this thread?
Tobi is alive, and in this position because Hashirama failed to check on Madara being dead, and Minato’s lack of lungimirance, while Kabuto is there, because Hiruzen enabled Orochimaru, even when he was killing various ninjas of the same leaf village he was a part of, Tobirama has never met Orochimaru while alive, and was stopped by his brother whenever he tried to prevent another Madara from showing up. As a matter of fact, the last paragraph you posted is the same thing, both Tobirama, Danzou and Madara himself, understood that the leaf and the Uchiha could not coexist, on a better timeline, Madara should have created a new village like Orochimaru did, but he didn’t, the only difference between Danzou and Tobirama, is that Tobirama predicted it long before him, but was stopped by his brother because he didn’t want to hurt his boyfriend.
Also, no threat of war? He lost a brother to the Uchiha, the situation in the Leaf was just the calm before the storm, and here’s the kicker, if Tobirama really was a bigot, there wouldn’t have been a Tobi, and as such, an uchiha Madara/Zetsu could manipulate to create the Akatsuki and form the moon eye plan.
 
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#38
Tsunade & Kakashi are disqualified cuz they didn't wanna do it

Minato is the Hokage I'd want (best power set)

Hashi didn't address problems

Tobi made said problems worse

Hituzen just did it too long

But Naruto's the best. Proves quantity can be quality
 
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