Controversial Regarding the "fake leaks" and Zoro's Origin

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#1
If you have not read anything related to those "leaks" please just leave and don't read lol.


So.. after reading those leaks fake or not... I am really hoping that Oda does not go that way. Time Travel especially going back to the past usually leads to stupid writing decisions.

Now how is this related to Zoro you ask.. Wano and Zoro gave us almost to nothing to his Origin except of similarities with Ryuma and a strong tie to Wano. But nothing big as to which Clan/Family he belongs to or anything at all other than "Fate". The leaks talks about Luffy going to the past and meeting JB and because of that IMU knows about the SH...etc etc.. What if Zoro's whole thing is that he is going to be Ryuma of the past himself....Cutting down the flower Capital Dragon etc. And that would complete his dream of being the "Strongest Swordman that ever lived" The past by being Ryuma and the future by being Zoro and beating Mihawk. It happens after the final War and everything he goes to the past and will become Ryuma...

How would you feel about that?

I really hope that this isn't the case...i am against this and i really hope those leaks are fake and even if they are fake i really hope Oda does not use time travel again.
 
#8
Zoro has No Origin or Backstory, why does people keep insisting on waiting for such thing?
His Resemblance to Ryuma or Shimotsuki Family isn't a Hint about his Family, it's a Hint about SHs being Pirates of Fate

Look at Sanji for example, we've already seen him in Two Flashbacks & yet in Wano, what do we hear? Sanji has Flames similar to Lunarians
You think there is a Third Flashback incoming or he has another Family? Ofc not

The idea is that certain things are being passed down, just like DFs go from one to another after Death, just like Haoshoku Haki is only inherited by select few, just like Vegapunk was born Smart, just like Big Mom was born a Monster, just like Poseidon, just like Momo, just like Nami being able to predict weather or Usopp prophesizing the future or Jinbe talking to Fish that no other Fishman can ... etc

Fate is at the center of all these Sub-Plots, something or someone selected all these Characters for a particular Role
Shimotsuki Family Sub-Plot isn't a Wano Arc Mystery, it's a Major Reveal for entire World Lore, not just Wano

Take Big Mom as an example, is She an Ancient Giant? Ofc not, but she clearly inherited Oars Strength (Oda made it fully clear when he made her act exactly as those Kids in Punk Hazard & then Law revealed that WG have always researched how to create Ancient Giants)

The same thing with Zoro, he is just a Kid from Normal Irrelevant Family, but he was chosen by Fate to finish what Shimotsuki Family always wanted, it's basically concept of "Inherited Will"
 
#10
Zoro has No Origin or Backstory, why does people keep insisting on waiting for such thing?
His Resemblance to Ryuma or Shimotsuki Family isn't a Hint about his Family, it's a Hint about SHs being Pirates of Fate

Look at Sanji for example, we've already seen him in Two Flashbacks & yet in Wano, what do we hear? Sanji has Flames similar to Lunarians
You think there is a Third Flashback incoming or he has another Family? Ofc not

The idea is that certain things are being passed down, just like DFs go from one to another after Death, just like Haoshoku Haki is only inherited by select few, just like Vegapunk was born Smart, just like Big Mom was born a Monster, just like Poseidon, just like Momo, just like Nami being able to predict weather or Usopp prophesizing the future or Jinbe talking to Fish that no other Fishman can ... etc

Fate is at the center of all these Sub-Plots, something or someone selected all these Characters for a particular Role
Shimotsuki Family Sub-Plot isn't a Wano Arc Mystery, it's a Major Reveal for entire World Lore, not just Wano

Take Big Mom as an example, is She an Ancient Giant? Ofc not, but she clearly inherited Oars Strength (Oda made it fully clear when he made her act exactly as those Kids in Punk Hazard & then Law revealed that WG have always researched how to create Ancient Giants)

The same thing with Zoro, he is just a Kid from Normal Irrelevant Family, but he was chosen by Fate to finish what Shimotsuki Family always wanted, it's basically concept of "Inherited Will"
I too like the idea of Zoro being a nobody. But the idea of what Oda is doing now with egghead and what if those leaks are true or not is concerning. And Oda himself was not helping with his SBS teasing Zoro's origin.
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they're obviously fake there was another ''leak'' a few years back that said zoro was kaido's son lol
Yes they are obviously. But it gave new ideas to think about. I am 100% against this idea of mine that i wrote in this post.
 
#12
If you have not read anything related to those "leaks" please just leave and don't read lol.


So.. after reading those leaks fake or not... I am really hoping that Oda does not go that way. Time Travel especially going back to the past usually leads to stupid writing decisions.

Now how is this related to Zoro you ask.. Wano and Zoro gave us almost to nothing to his Origin except of similarities with Ryuma and a strong tie to Wano. But nothing big as to which Clan/Family he belongs to or anything at all other than "Fate". The leaks talks about Luffy going to the past and meeting JB and because of that IMU knows about the SH...etc etc.. What if Zoro's whole thing is that he is going to be Ryuma of the past himself....Cutting down the flower Capital Dragon etc. And that would complete his dream of being the "Strongest Swordman that ever lived" The past by being Ryuma and the future by being Zoro and beating Mihawk. It happens after the final War and everything he goes to the past and will become Ryuma...

How would you feel about that?

I really hope that this isn't the case...i am against this and i really hope those leaks are fake and even if they are fake i really hope Oda does not use time travel again.
Do not scratch yourself, those leaks are false. There are many things that are implausible.
 
#13
I don't understand, what is Oda hinting about Zoro in Egghead?
Not with Zoro but in general. Cloning/Memory world transferring consciousness to bodies etc. I meant if Oda is willing to do that with egghead where is the limit?

Again i am only afraid that Oda will use Time Travel again. The idea of it is not great. Which is how i came to the scenario of Zoro being Ryuma himself. And i dislike it 100% lol.
 
#14
Not with Zoro but in general. Cloning/Memory world transferring consciousness to bodies etc. I meant if Oda is willing to do that with egghead where is the limit?

Again i am only afraid that Oda will use Time Travel again. The idea of it is not great. Which is how i came to the scenario of Zoro being Ryuma himself. And i dislike it 100% lol.
Well here is what i believe regarding this Concept

Vega told us that Egghead is like a Teaser for Ancient Kingdom & it's pretty clear that the Invention that stands out the most on the Island is his Vega Records which allowed him to create those Six Variations of him

When we put the two informations together, we conclude that Ancient Kingdom definitely had it's own Records too & it was most probably much better & bigger

Where would this Ancient Kingdom that supposedly ruled the World put it's Super Mega World Records? An Island? A Small Cloud? Ofc not, we are talking something massive here, it's obviously "The Moon"

And thanks to Enel Cover Story, we did confirm that there was indeed a Scientifically Advanced City on The Moon & it makes perfect sense that it was created to hold World Records similar to Vega Records

What's even more interesting is that Birkans who had control over that Technology ended up leaving The Moon & going to Earth, we know that they recently lived in the Sky (Where Enel came from), but we also saw that they actually descended to the Sea before (As hinted by Enel who had knowledge that can only come from the Sea such as knowing that Luffy's DF is called a Paramecia Type or when we got confirmation that Weatheria where Nami was sent to by Kuma is home of other Birkans ... etc)

So where did Birkans settle in the past when they first descended? Oda answered that in same Cover Story when he showed a Scientist re-creating the same Automata that Birkans created on The Moon & he also loved looking at The Moon, so it's strongly suggesting that Birkans settled on that Island before. Do you know what Island is that? It's Vegapunk's Home Island (Where Franky was sent by Kuma)

Why am i explaining all this? Cuz i want to say that just like Vega Records allowed Vegapunk to transfer his Intellect to new Hosts, Ancient Records were also programmed to be transferred to a New Host, is there someone who was born Smart? As if he inherited Intellect from a Past Life? Yes, it's Vegapunk himself, that's how he became Smartest Man Alive!

But this is just one piece of the puzzle, this Idea of allowing such important Inheritance didn't stop at only Intellect, there is also a place that contains Genes & a person is chosen to inherit those Genes, there is also a place that contains Souls & someone is chosen to be born & inherit those Souls ... etc

That's why we have Big Mom who was born with Oars Strength, that's why we have Shirahoshi born as Poseidon, that's why we have Blackbeard & his Secret, that's why DFs get recycled, that's how Haoshoku Haki is being passed down

The Idea is that there are "Locations" that can store things that are normally impossible to store & these Locations then transfer their contents to certain individuals

For example, All Blue is basically a Sea that has All Genes, The Moon is same concept but for Intellect & Knowledge, Mary Geoise National Treasure is same concept but for Souls ... etc

So don't worry, there is no Time Travel or Characters turning out to be the same in different timelines, it's all about Inherited Treats.
 
#15
Well here is what i believe regarding this Concept

Vega told us that Egghead is like a Teaser for Ancient Kingdom & it's pretty clear that the Invention that stands out the most on the Island is his Vega Records which allowed him to create those Six Variations of him

When we put the two informations together, we conclude that Ancient Kingdom definitely had it's own Records too & it was most probably much better & bigger

Where would this Ancient Kingdom that supposedly ruled the World put it's Super Mega World Records? An Island? A Small Cloud? Ofc not, we are talking something massive here, it's obviously "The Moon"

And thanks to Enel Cover Story, we did confirm that there was indeed a Scientifically Advanced City on The Moon & it makes perfect sense that it was created to hold World Records similar to Vega Records

What's even more interesting is that Birkans who had control over that Technology ended up leaving The Moon & going to Earth, we know that they recently lived in the Sky (Where Enel came from), but we also saw that they actually descended to the Sea before (As hinted by Enel who had knowledge that can only come from the Sea such as knowing that Luffy's DF is called a Paramecia Type or when we got confirmation that Weatheria where Nami was sent to by Kuma is home of other Birkans ... etc)

So where did Birkans settle in the past when they first descended? Oda answered that in same Cover Story when he showed a Scientist re-creating the same Automata that Birkans created on The Moon & he also loved looking at The Moon, so it's strongly suggesting that Birkans settled on that Island before. Do you know what Island is that? It's Vegapunk's Home Island (Where Franky was sent by Kuma)

Why am i explaining all this? Cuz i want to say that just like Vega Records allowed Vegapunk to transfer his Intellect to new Hosts, Ancient Records were also programmed to be transferred to a New Host, is there someone who was born Smart? As if he inherited Intellect from a Past Life? Yes, it's Vegapunk himself, that's how he became Smartest Man Alive!

But this is just one piece of the puzzle, this Idea of allowing such important Inheritance didn't stop at only Intellect, there is also a place that contains Genes & a person is chosen to inherit those Genes, there is also a place that contains Souls & someone is chosen to be born & inherit those Souls ... etc

That's why we have Big Mom who was born with Oars Strength, that's why we have Shirahoshi born as Poseidon, that's why we have Blackbeard & his Secret, that's why DFs get recycled, that's how Haoshoku Haki is being passed down

The Idea is that there are "Locations" that can store things that are normally impossible to store & these Locations then transfer their contents to certain individuals

For example, All Blue is basically a Sea that has All Genes, The Moon is same concept but for Intellect & Knowledge, Mary Geoise National Treasure is same concept but for Souls ... etc

So don't worry, there is no Time Travel or Characters turning out to be the same in different timelines, it's all about Inherited Treats.
Everything you wrote here goes with the themes of One Piece and i like it because all of it is connected which explains what the idea behind the One Piece is as a whole. Cheers :cheers:
 
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