Versus Battle Sasori vs Deidara

[BakiDou]

Deidara low diffs, c4 #1 King hater tier thread. Sasori has some range but he has no answer to that c4, basically certain death, you need to be named plotsuke to be able to regen yourself from that.
Also c4 works on all organs with chakra, it does not matter if sasori breathe or not(c4 is kinda overkill for sasori anyway). In term of range Daidara range is 5-6 times better than his opponent, sasori wasnt able to deal with sakura in a small ring, dude does not have what to do vs deidara who will fight with c4 clones and nt-clones from a distace while bombarding the entire area. Deidara can also produce way more devastation than controled sakura, you can even argue a 100x more area devastation without c0. So yeah, Sasori is heavily countered here, he is best vs melee fighters.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Deidara winning

 

[Bob74h]

 

[ZenZu]

Hence why your thread was a fail. Should have just created this thread to begin with.

 

[soheilhazrat]

And you tried to tell me sasori is overrated

 

[Bob74h]

And you tried to tell me sasori is overrated

he is.
Being above sakura in any capability is Weak ass compared to his actual appearance in the series

I just thought, He was extremely overrated like 90 thousand times stronger rather then 200

 

[MonsterKaido]

he is.
Being above sakura in any capability is Weak ass compared to his actual appearance in the series

I just thought, He was extremely overrated like 90 thousand times stronger rather then 200

Sasori is super underated lol

 

[Bob74h]

Sasori is super underated lol

To say he's underrated means he's being rated below what he factually would be at.
I said he's below sakura as she decked him out, You dont have any argument versus that so how does it follow to any capacity that the rating used by me is below the actual one??

Any actual sources or just the same tired arguments, That have been routinely debunked time and time again

Sasori caring about his family yet he says he does not and openly tries killing family
Sasori let himself die yet chiyo as a narrator there says he was caught off guard.



You have never made one valid point regarding this issue as the position held is incredibly dishonest. We have you on numerous occasions just outright ignoring facts and arguments that disagree with you as a example

 

[MonsterKaido]

To say he's underrated means he's being rated below what he factually would be at.
I said he's below sakura as she decked him out, You dont have any argument versus that so how does it follow to any capacity that the rating used by me is below the actual one??

Any actual sources or just the same tired arguments, That have been routinely debunked time and time again

Sasori caring about his family yet he says he does not and openly tries killing family
Sasori let himself die yet chiyo as a narrator there says he was caught off guard.



You have never made one valid point regarding this issue as the position held is incredibly dishonest. We have you on numerous occasions just outright ignoring facts and arguments that disagree with you as a example

What I mean is lot of people rank him as the second weakest in akatsuki and more

 

[Bob74h]

What I mean is lot of people rank him as the second weakest in akatsuki and more

Could you send an exact example of somebody doing that and could you explain why in your mind that contradicts with his actual placing?? Making it lower lower rated then how could be?


You also didt answer, my question would there be any sources for the position had.
I only made, The clarification of dont use the same tired arguments as they were debunked time and time again

 

[ZenZu]

he is.
Being above sakura in any capability is Weak ass compared to his actual appearance in the series

I just thought, He was extremely overrated like 90 thousand times stronger rather then 200

So Sasori is overrated because he is rightfully placed (as per canon) above Kazekage rescue Arc Sakura?

 

[SkySanji]

Both have Rayan has shit taste potential, Deidara with his C4 and C0 and Sasori with his poison, Sasori uses his poison much earlier than Deidara uses either C4 or C0 so Sasori wins imo.

And Deidara literally states Sasori is stronger than him, Deidara being the most egotistical Akatsuki member by far, that trumps Deidara's superior feats.

 

[Bob74h]

So Sasori is overrated because he is rightfully placed (as per canon) above Kazekage rescue Arc Sakura?

Sakura in the kazekage rescue arc is above sasori in series
So he's just rated higher then actually seen in the manga


Deidara beat gaara
Sasori lost to sakura

Pretty clear, by feats that a sasori lost to sakura and that b deidara has superior feats

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And Deidara literally states Sasori is stronger than him, Deidara being the most egotistical Akatsuki member by far, that trumps Deidara's superior feats.

Sarutobi is literally stated above the past hokage so that trumps any superior feats that hashirama may have, Funny that you see this argument as stupid despite being the exact same as the one used for sasori

 

[SkySanji]

Sakura in the kazekage rescue arc is above sasori in series
So he's just rated higher then actually seen in the manga


Deidara beat gaara
Sasori lost to sakura

Pretty clear, by feats that a sasori lost to sakura and that b deidara has superior feats

Sakura would have died within one minute if not for Chiyo and the antidote they had to Sasori's poison, don't ignore context.

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Sarutobi is literally stated above the past hokage so that trumps any superior feats that hashirama may have, Funny that you see this argument as stupid despite being the exact same as the one used for sasori

Don't even bother with your false equivalences, Hashirama's strength was clearly retconned and the statement about Hiruzen was in the first 100 chapters of the manga, it's not comparable to Sasori's statement.

When fucking Deidara says someones stronger than him, it means they're much stronger than him, the guy was whining 24/7 about Itachi being stronger than him and yet he just flat out states Sasori is stronger, it doesn't take a genius to see how accurate that is.

 

[Bob74h]

Sakura would have died within one minute if not for Chiyo and the antidote they had to Sasori's poison, don't ignore context.

Chiyo disagrees
She said sakura does not require her support, this is consistent with feats presented

Don't even bother with your false equivalences

It does equate, you just dont like it
both are situations where W character is stated as superior to another with clear contradiction to feats shown. It's just that with hiruzen rather the old man was said as heavily nerfed from his prime explaining the inconsistency however with sasori. it's just inconsistent with no real justification.

Anyways, you sort of people just have a rhetoric to follow and will do so regardless of how absurd it would be
Eg saying momoshiki is stronger then kaguya despite him losing to characters like gaara and borutoo. it's not about facts with you but rather belief

When fucking Deidara says someones stronger than him, it means they're much stronger than him

So when hiruzen says he is superior to hashirama then he would be??? Does the logic presented only apply when it favors your headcanon or what??

 

[SkySanji]

Chiyo disagrees
She said sakura does not require her support, this is consistent with feats presented

Why the fuck do you think Chiyo was controlling Sakura for 80% of the fight? Because Chiyo was able to read Sasori's movements and could control Sakura and have her dodge them, again, Sakura dies within the first minute if Chiyo isn't there and she doesn't have the antidote

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It does equate, you just dont like it
both are situations where W character is stated as superior to another with clear contradiction to feats shown. It's just that with hiruzen rather the old man was said as heavily nerfed from his prime explaining the inconsistency however with sasori. it's just inconsistent with no real justification.

No, they're not equal, first of all, the statement was made by Iruka, not fucking Hiruzen, that alone makes it inferior to a statement made by Deidara about himself

Second, that statement about Hiruzen was made at like chapter 90 something, we only saw Hashirama's strength at chapter 400+, that's a massive gap of time for Masashi Kishimoto to retcon/change his mind on things, it's funny how Hiruzen was never called the strongest when we actually saw what Hashirama was capable of, even when Hiruzen was reanimated there was no mention of it.

Anyways, you sort of people just have a rhetoric to follow and will do so regardless of how absurd it would be
Eg saying momoshiki is stronger then kaguya despite him losing to characters like gaara and borutoo. it's not about facts with you but rather belief

Fuck off with your generalization, "you sort of people" lmao.

I never said Momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya, what the fuck are you even talking about?

So when hiruzen says he is superior to hashirama then he would be??? Does the logic presented only apply when it favors your headcanon or what??

Hiruzen never says he's stronger than Hashirama, Iruka says that, and he even includes "it is said that", meaning it's hardly a fact.

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And lets be honest, Hashirama and Madara have unmatched portrayal compared to others, they're treated as literal gods among Shinobi with them both being considered the strongest of all time aside from Hagoromo, Hiruzen doesn't get that level of portrayal, just an extremely outdated and clearly retconned statement.

 

[Bob74h]

Why the fuck do you think Chiyo was controlling Sakura for 80% of the fight? Because Chiyo was able to read Sasori's movements and could control Sakura and have her dodge them

I agree
but sakura eventually figured out sasori's movements as chiyo states

, first of all, the statement was made by Iruka, not fucking Hiruzen, that alone makes it inferior to a statement made by Deidara about himself

You are ignoring, That he agrees with the sentiment as seen by him getting annoyed by the use of past tense
Anyways, the statements are comparable and you're just clearly too ignorant to acknowelge that as it puts a huge whole in your beliefs

Masashi Kishimoto to retcon/change his mind on things, it's funny how Hiruzen was never called the strongest when we actually saw what Hashirama was capable of, even when Hiruzen was reanimated there was no mention of it.

Same could apply to deidara
Im not arguing that hiruzen is above hashirama at least here, Im just saying how is sarutobi's statement not fine but sasori's would be when both are contradictive and both are never brought up again in later chapters something you're using as a argument to distance yourself from the hasirama to saru comparison even tho the same logic applies to the akatsuki duo aswell

I never said Momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya, what the fuck are you even talking about?

You never said it, But judging from the viewpoints that you hold. you most likely do as most people who belilive everything the larger fandom says also takes that joke of a argument seriously despite both feats and statements contradicting the position

 

[Kiiro]

Well, Deidara was buffing himself to fight Ha0 is a window licker Itachi and almost defeated Sasuke which used his CSM or whatever it is named lol.

Deidara is crazy, he wont accept a lost, reason he killed himself thinking Sasuke will also die.

The same with the 2nd Mizukage and Tshikage, when they were revived, both thought to have won or at least killed the other before dying lol.

So, if Sasori is gonna win, he will be so weakened that Deidara is gonna do something to both die.

So, maybe a draw is ok.

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When Chiyo says, "at this point"

Lol, yeah, Sasori fought both already, is heavy weakened. Still, Sakura is a Ha0 is a window licker, was not even Jonin level, she was Chunnin level. Or at best, low jonnin level, she had 1 extra point from Neji in the chunnin exams, yeah, she go stronger.

Futher more, she got stronger, she could summon Katsuya and use the seal or her huge forehead and even summon Naruto when she screams his name.

 

[Bob74h]

t Ha0 is a window licker Itachi

Yea kcm naruto is Ha0 is a window licker obviously

 

[Kiiro]

Yea kcm naruto is Ha0 is a window licker obviously

Obviously Naruto wasnt fighting seriously with Itachi since they were talking. But yeah, Itachi is strong.