Chapter Discussion Second Awakening or ......

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Foul Legacy

#1
Like how does one explain this?
It's Nasujuro and Horse Yokai working simultaneously and with two different mind.

Also , We havn't seen gorosei tanking Damage in Human form , it's always hybrid or Zoan.


Over here we can see Nasujuro head starts burning in last end panel.
And this is the next panel.


There are two heads existing at the same time over here.
One is zoan form and other is hybrid/human.
How is that possible?

My guess is , It's related to zoan awakening only.
- Mythical Zoan are confirmed to have a mind of their own.​
- Zoan awakening were explained as the user would loose their mind at awakening. Like Impel down awakened users and key factor explaining their awakening is Instant regenration.​
- Impel Down gaurds don't have a mind and act like animals only.​
- If you notice properly. Gorosei in Full zoan acts like Animal only unlike Marco/Kaidou (Who are not awakened).​
- Only very strong Conqueror's can keep their mind while awakening a Mythical Zoan. Which would explain to us why Kaidou and Marco never awakened.​
- Many have pointed out Luffy not being himself much in G5.​
Full Zoan Forms (Controlled by Demon)
- They are larger than what the user would be if they use Zoan form.​
What I'm trying to say is , Gorosei zoans weren't supposed to be that big if they weren't awaken.​
- why I say this is because look at these animals.​
What Species of Koala , Cow/Buffalo/Zebra/Rhino is supposed to be this big?​
- now look at gorosei full zoan Entrance​
Look at this , they are huge af , almost comparable to size of Kaidou.​
- You can't Hurt demons/devil with Normal attacks , Haki , DF , Physical might , everything has been tested. Why? Because they are something out of the world , let's say in JJK world , not many can see curses and mot many can use Cursed energy either and Black flash is like limited to less than 10 Character as of now.​
- Many have speculated this but only AdCoC or some other Advanced form of Conqueror Haki can hurt Gorosei. Why?​
Because DF are manifestation of their "Desire" , Whereas Conqueror haki is basically user " will " , how strong their will is.​
- When you have the will, it means you have the capacity of the stained effort for a definite end. A desire, on the contrary, is something violent, passionate and momentary; it is very rarely a durable thing. It has not the stuff, the substance and organisation of a sustained effort.
- This advanced form of Conqueror could be Manifestation of their own will to cancel out Manifestation of their Desires (of Devil fruit).​
- Prime Example being Ashura , Everyone sees it like 6 Hands and 3 Heads , Resemnling a A " Demon God ".​
- Kaidou questioned it whether it's Conqueror or not , but In reality it was some other form of Advanced Conqueror. Which is Manifestation of their will.​
- I can still bet. ROGER / shanks / Mihawk / Xebec / Garp (Specially him). Had something like this.​
Not only that , There's a giant Straw hat in mariejois.
- People thought Luffy peaked DF wise.​
- But final one is yet to come and we all know EOS MC power creep is ridiculous.​
- Luffy (Nika) Full zoan form will be as huge as the giant used against Saturn and Kizaru.​
- In the panel below , Luffy aura just changed completely.​
You can say momentarily Nika took over.​
- currently I'm talking about size , this one fits the size of Straw hat in Pangea Castle.​
Bottom Line being New power ups will be at our door soon.
  1. Manifestation of Desire
  2. Manifestation of Will
- In order to control , Manifestation of Desire , you need to have CoC Haki as strong as Manifestation of Will.
- In order to beat Manifestation of Desire , you need to have Manifestation of Will. Which currently only Ashura we have seen so far.

Both of them can't exist simultaneously.

You consider this as Double awakening from Isekai Anime or
"Thirds" from Mashle magic (Those who have read it).

- Ashura is Invincible everytime it is used. NO One blocks it , Zoro takes no damage while using it , None AdCoC don't stand a chance against it.

- EOS Luffy as always will be invincible , taking again nearly no damage from Attacks if it's not AdCoC. We were already shown this many times , Kaidou Club not damaging Luffy Always.

As you can see it's Haki coated but still luffy shaking it off.
Nika kept taking control here and there and hence why even AdCoC didn't work here.
Kizaru tried to laser luffy but Luffy ate that.
Luffy would only be damaged in this form if he takes control back.
Goal is to make the full zoan demon to what you want , not the other way around or you will end up like Impel down gaurd.

So In short EOS luffy will be Menace like Gorosei with Ultimate Manifestation of Desire.
While zoro surpassing Mihawk , with Ulimate Manifestation of Will.
 
#2
Like how does one explain this?
It's Nasujuro and Horse Yokai working simultaneously and with two different mind.

Also , We havn't seen gorosei tanking Damage in Human form , it's always hybrid or Zoan.


Over here we can see Nasujuro head starts burning in last end panel.
And this is the next panel.


There are two heads existing at the same time over here.
One is zoan form and other is hybrid/human.
How is that possible?

My guess is , It's related to zoan awakening only.
- Mythical Zoan are confirmed to have a mind of their own.​
- Zoan awakening were explained as the user would loose their mind at awakening. Like Impel down awakened users and key factor explaining their awakening is Instant regenration.​
- Impel Down gaurds don't have a mind and act like animals only.​
- If you notice properly. Gorosei in Full zoan acts like Animal only unlike Marco/Kaidou (Who are not awakened).​
- Only very strong Conqueror's can keep their mind while awakening a Mythical Zoan. Which would explain to us why Kaidou and Marco never awakened.​
- Many have pointed out Luffy not being himself much in G5.​
Full Zoan Forms (Controlled by Demon)
- They are larger than what the user would be if they use Zoan form.​
What I'm trying to say is , Gorosei zoans weren't supposed to be that big if they weren't awaken.​
- why I say this is because look at these animals.​
What Species of Koala , Cow/Buffalo/Zebra/Rhino is supposed to be this big?​
- now look at gorosei full zoan Entrance​
Look at this , they are huge af , almost comparable to size of Kaidou.​
- You can't Hurt demons/devil with Normal attacks , Haki , DF , Physical might , everything has been tested. Why? Because they are something out of the world , let's say in JJK world , not many can see curses and mot many can use Cursed energy either and Black flash is like limited to less than 10 Character as of now.​
- Many have speculated this but only AdCoC or some other Advanced form of Conqueror Haki can hurt Gorosei. Why?​
Because DF are manifestation of their "Desire" , Whereas Conqueror haki is basically user " will " , how strong their will is.​
- When you have the will, it means you have the capacity of the stained effort for a definite end. A desire, on the contrary, is something violent, passionate and momentary; it is very rarely a durable thing. It has not the stuff, the substance and organisation of a sustained effort.
- This advanced form of Conqueror could be Manifestation of their own will to cancel out Manifestation of their Desires (of Devil fruit).​
- Prime Example being Ashura , Everyone sees it like 6 Hands and 3 Heads , Resemnling a A " Demon God ".​
- Kaidou questioned it whether it's Conqueror or not , but In reality it was some other form of Advanced Conqueror. Which is Manifestation of their will.​
- I can still bet. ROGER / shanks / Mihawk / Xebec / Garp (Specially him). Had something like this.​
Not only that , There's a giant Straw hat in mariejois.
- People thought Luffy peaked DF wise.​
- But final one is yet to come and we all know EOS MC power creep is ridiculous.​
- Luffy (Nika) Full zoan form will be as huge as the giant used against Saturn and Kizaru.​
- In the panel below , Luffy aura just changed completely.​
You can say momentarily Nika took over.​
- currently I'm talking about size , this one fits the size of Straw hat in Pangea Castle.​
Bottom Line being New power ups will be at our door soon.
  1. Manifestation of Desire
  2. Manifestation of Will
- In order to control , Manifestation of Desire , you need to have CoC Haki as strong as Manifestation of Will.
- In order to beat Manifestation of Desire , you need to have Manifestation of Will. Which currently only Ashura we have seen so far.

Both of them can't exist simultaneously.

You consider this as Double awakening from Isekai Anime or
"Thirds" from Mashle magic (Those who have read it).

- Ashura is Invincible everytime it is used. NO One blocks it , Zoro takes no damage while using it , None AdCoC don't stand a chance against it.

- EOS Luffy as always will be invincible , taking again nearly no damage from Attacks if it's not AdCoC. We were already shown this many times , Kaidou Club not damaging Luffy Always.

As you can see it's Haki coated but still luffy shaking it off.
Nika kept taking control here and there and hence why even AdCoC didn't work here.
Kizaru tried to laser luffy but Luffy ate that.
Luffy would only be damaged in this form if he takes control back.
Goal is to make the full zoan demon to what you want , not the other way around or you will end up like Impel down gaurd.

So In short EOS luffy will be Menace like Gorosei with Ultimate Manifestation of Desire.
While zoro surpassing Mihawk , with Ulimate Manifestation of Will.
Voice of all things should be the key to beating them imo. There is no such thing as a perfect defense in OP. Haki trumps all.
 
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