Character Discussion Smoker the 10th Nakama

#2
He put too much effort into catching pirates, and especially Luffy, to now turn the leaf and become a pirate.

It's not an Akainu vs Aokiji situation where he has to leave the Marines because he lost. I don't see him throwing away his convinctions to join Luffy or any other pirate crew
 
#3
He put too much effort into catching pirates, and especially Luffy, to now turn the leaf and become a pirate.

It's not an Akainu vs Aokiji situation where he has to leave the Marines because he lost. I don't see him throwing away his convinctions to join Luffy or any other pirate crew
He already have see the shit of WG and I think in the new arc with Vegapunk he must find some really dark for the Marine side
All he need is a push and a decent flashback for motives
 
#7
He already have see the shit of WG and I think in the new arc with Vegapunk he must find some really dark for the Marine side
All he need is a push and a decent flashback for motives
Well Garp and Sengoku saw the shit of the WG for decades on end. And yet none of them left until 2 years ago.

Aokiji saw it too and wouldn't have left if not for the duel with Akainu
 
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He put too much effort into catching pirates, and especially Luffy, to now turn the leaf and become a pirate.

It's not an Akainu vs Aokiji situation where he has to leave the Marines because he lost. I don't see him throwing away his convinctions to join Luffy or any other pirate crew
He past in the marine don’t matter, I mean, Nami is a robber, Zoro a killer, Ussop a lier, Franky a criminal, Robin a multiplier-killer..
Lucy only care about Valors and Goodness Heart
 
#10
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He past in the marine don’t matter, I mean, Nami is a robber, Zoro a killer, Ussop a lier, Franky a criminal, Robin a multiplier-killer..
Lucy only care about Valors and Goodness Heart
It doesn't for Luffy.

But it does for Smoker. He's been doing this for decades. Has been hunting Luffy for 2 years. And now just because Luffy is levels above him he should tuck his tail and join him? Makes no sense.

Again, he can ally with him for a fight or two. He did it on PH. But join the crew? Very very slim chance of that
 
#11
Well Garp and Sengoku saw the shit of the WG for decades on end. And yet none of them left until 2 years ago.

Aokiji saw it too and wouldn't have left if not for the duel with Akainu
Well I think that only speak about the pussy of then.
Smoker already send eat shit to the WG, he have much more balls than the all of them.
I mean Garp not have enough courage to saved he grandson… and Aokiji is just a loser, he’s no the good person that much people spect
 
#12
Well I think that only speak about the pussy of then.
Smoker already send eat shit to the WG, he have much more balls than the all of them.
I mean Garp not have enough courage to saved he grandson… and Aokiji is just a loser, he’s no the good person that much people spect
He told them to eat shit after Alabasta... And then fought at MF against pirates. Such a good guy.

And Ace's death is on him. Garp tried to steer both him and Luffy away from being pirates but they chose their own path. And it's now up to them to own up for their choices.

Garp's situation was hard but he did the right thing in the end. He stayed true to his convictions (the Marines) and let Ace die for his (being mad about a yo daddy joke)
 
#13
It doesn't for Luffy.

But it does for Smoker. He's been doing this for decades. Has been hunting Luffy for 2 years. And now just because Luffy is levels above him he should tuck his tail and join him? Makes no sense.

Again, he can ally with him for a fight or two. He did it on PH. But join the crew? Very very slim chance of that
Cause he was blind about the true of the world.. it’s not like the other marines that have seen the true and choice to follow the marines.. Smoker have show much more empathy and heart
 
#15
He told them to eat shit after Alabasta... And then fought at MF against pirates. Such a good guy.

And Ace's death is on him. Garp tried to steer both him and Luffy away from being pirates but they chose their own path. And it's now up to them to own up for their choices.

Garp's situation was hard but he did the right thing in the end. He stayed true to his convictions (the Marines) and let Ace die for his (being mad about a yo daddy joke)
Garp keep choosing the wrong way.. You can justify but don’t change the fact that he have see the shit of the WG and keep following cause he don’t wanna effort for try other things
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Who hasn't seen the truth of the world?
Smoker. He just lived in the most pacific sea, in a bubble of the darkness of the WG and Marine.
He was shocked about the Crocodile thing. When he found that with Vegapunk the Marine do thinks as darkest like Ceasar do, he must understand
 
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#17
Garp keep choosing the wrong way.. You can justify but don’t change the fact that he have see the shit of the WG and keep following cause he don’t wanna effort for try other things
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Smoker. He just lived in the most pacific sea, in a bubble of the darkness of the WG and Marine.
He was shocked about the Crocodile thing. When he found that with Vegapunk the Marine do thinks as darkest like Ceasar do, he must understand
So the only right path in this world is to be a pirate?

Garp was smart enough and strong enough to deny being an Admiral, so that the CG couldn't directly command him whenerver they want.

Also, considering that we have Fujitora who aims to change some of the policies of the Marines/WG, who's to say Garp didn@t have the same aim.

As for Smoker, he understood the WG's way of doing things since Alabasta and Croc as I said. If he were such a righteous chad he would have left the Marines then and there. But he stayed. Because changing the Marines is something you do while part of the organization, and not outside of it.
 
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