Questions & Mysteries So Saint Shanks and Roger are no swordsmen but have named sword attacks?

[Black]

Like Divine Departure? That is literally a swordsmen technique yet people say they‘re no swordsmen.

Much funnier is the fact that the exact same people ignore manga content such as WB speaking about Saint Shanks and mihawks legendary duels in the past.

Why would Saint Shanks bother dueling Mihawk countless times if he isn‘t a swordsman?

You guys are hillariously delusional to think that both Saint Shanks and Roger are no swordsmen. 🤣🤦

 

[Malick the last Light]

If Mihawk/Zoro did not exist, nobody on the One Piece fandom would call either Saint Shanks or Roger anything else than swordsmen.

Its all Agenda brain rot to explain why Saint Shanks, the god king, is somehow not the WSS and nothign else.

Divine Departure is not even the main reason why the argument is bullshit. Its literally in Mihawks bounty reveal hard confirmed Saint Shanks is a swordsmen and people STILL cope about it.

Why would Brannew use Saint Shanks as a point of comparison with Mihawk if the guy is not a swordsman? People that actively question or outright denying Saint Shanks is a swordsman? Are denying reality.

Like, I have said this before if you want to argue Saint Shanks will die before Zoro can meet him, he has been to kind to fight seriously with Mihawk or whatever other cope you wish to use to explain why Saint Shanks is stronger but still won be the WSS Zoro surpasses? Thats fine with me.

I think its stupid, but whatever.

But stop denying reality for fucks sake!

Saint Shanks IS a swordsman! Just like Roger, the guy who LITERALLY named his own son after his SWORD (not even Mihawk or Zoro would ever do shit like that btw, Roger LOVED that sword), was also a swordsman okay?!

 

[RayanOO]

Like Divine Departure? That is literally a swordsmen technique yet people say they‘re no swordsmen.

 

[BattalGazi]

If Mihawk is so strong and every sword user is a swordsman then why Mihawk never beaten Bigmom or Fujitora etc... It is a titşe based on skill.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

 

[Malick the last Light]

If Mihawk is so strong and every sword user is a swordsman then why Mihawk never beaten Bigmom or Fujitora etc... It is a titşe based on skill.

1) So both are not dead and thus the story can happen
2) Why beat the two if they are weaker thank Saint Shanks whom he is superior towads anyway?

Kaido was not out here killing Admirals, or flying up the redline to kill the Gorosei despite wanting to die/start a glorious war. Is he a fraud too?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

show me another name attack which Saint Shanks or roger dont use a sword?

 

[Vanlax]

Yep.

Saint Shanks and Roger are swordsmen until they've actually shown that they are not.

This is different from someone like King or Big Mom who has a lot in their arsenal and not just swordsmanship.

I'm waiting for Saint Shanks to show his one-hand grappling style.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

If Mihawk is so strong and every sword user is a swordsman then why Mihawk never beaten Bigmom or Fujitora etc... It is a titşe based on skill.

And why BM didn't defeat Mihawk if she is one of the four strongest pirate? and why Wb didn't defeat garp, mihawk, Saint Shanks if he is strongest man? And why kaido didn't all the other pirates if he is strongest pirate...

 

[MonochromeYoru]

And why BM didn't defeat Mihawk if she is one of the four strongest pirate? and why Wb didn't defeat garp, mihawk, Saint Shanks if he is strongest man? And why kaido didn't all the other pirates if he is strongest pirate...

You do realize you are literally making the case FOR titles being fraudulent right?

 

[Roronoa-sama]

You do realize you are literally making the case FOR titles being fraudulent right?

nope the title show what is believed the world. They believe Kaido is strongest pirate (at this moment), wb strongest men and mihawk the strongest with a sword

 

[Warine]

You do realize you are literally making the case FOR titles being fraudulent right?

Do you actually believe any titles is fraudulent lol?

 

[CbShadow]

If Mihawk is so strong and every sword user is a swordsman then why Mihawk never beaten Bigmom or Fujitora etc... It is a titşe based on skill.

I see this argument all the time but nobody can ever provide manga scenes stating he never beat them.

 

[JoNdule]

Linlin has tons of attacks with her sword and she's not a swordsman

Also being a swordsman =/= being weaker than Mihawk

You can have less sword skills than Mihawk and still be superior to him

 

[notAfanboy]

And why BM didn't defeat Mihawk if she is one of the four strongest pirate? and why Wb didn't defeat garp, mihawk, Saint Shanks if he is strongest man? And why kaido didn't all the other pirates if he is strongest pirate...

Are you implying that "strongest" titles are meaningless?

 

[CbShadow]

Linlin has tons of attacks with her sword and she's not a swordsman

Also being a swordsman =/= being weaker than Mihawk

You can have less sword skills than Mihawk and still be superior to him

That makes absolutely no sense. How can you be a swordsman but stronger than the World Strongest Swordsman. That is like believing you are faster than me even though I'm the fastest man in the world. That doesn't work.

Sword skill = fighting strength. The person with the greater fighting strike is the stronger.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Isn't Ikkoku swordsmanship of the giants?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

nope the title show what is believed the world. They believe Kaido is strongest pirate (at this moment), wb strongest men and mihawk the strongest with a sword

Exactly. It's based on people's perception. Not factual shit.

Do you actually believe any titles is fraudulent lol?

Yes. WB was not the WSM in mf. That alone outright calls into question the validity of every other title.

 

[Warine]

Exactly. It's based on people's perception. Not factual shit.


Yes. WB was not the WSM in mf. That alone outright calls into question the validity of every other title.

Let's word it differently, do you think one piece is meta enough for this to happen?

 

[сука]

Why would Brannew use Saint Shanks as a point of comparison with Mihawk if the guy is not a swordsman?

"Garp the fist punches even harder than Roronoa Zoro"