Chapter Discussion So what's gonna happen with Luffy & Sanji? #1107

[pg13]

Pg's Thoughts:Theres a lot to unpack about this situation, Most important factor is dying Vegapunk and the promise Sanji made to Bonney. Right now Kizaru is in their way and is obligated to take Vegapunk out. Saturn may be coming back as well. Kizaru may have to be defeated here. I think a quick 2v1 Mid Diff fight is gonna happen here, and it'll end with Sanji taking Vegapunk and getting to the ship, then Luffy will deal with Saturn. Imo If you leave Sanji with Kizaru alone he has to be saved at some point and everyone that could save him is occupied. 2v1 is the only way Oda can involve Sanji with Kizaru right now without him losing the fight.Unless Sanji is secretly stronger then we think and already Old Man Trio status to where he can clash with Admirals without needing a savior. Or something could prevent any fight from happening at all.



Leave Your Thoughts

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Luffy and Sanji vs Kizaru

Then when Oda creates a reason to remove Sanji from the fight he’ll do so but I feel like the 2v1 will happen for one chapter at least after that last spread.

 

[pg13]

Luffy and Sanji vs Kizaru

Then when Oda creates a reason to remove Sanji from the fight he’ll do so but I feel like the 2v1 will happen for one chapter at least after that last spread.

That's what it feels like but I would assume if go that route Kizaru has to be defeated at that point.

 

[Nikuzi]

A short 2v1 until oda makes sanji go do something else

I think a Luffy using Red Hawk type move and Sanji using an Ifrit move at the same time would be cool

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's what it feels like but I would assume if go that route Kizaru has to be defeated at that point.

Eh, I won’t be shocked if Luffy doesn’t use CoC coating during the 2v1 portion….

 

[MonsterKaido]

Sanji will receive some hype but will then either get overwhelmed or will be written out of the fight one way or another. Then it will be luffy vs Kizaru round 2. That being said with saturn I am not sure.

 

[MegaSpider]

-Saturn is still there and will probably transform or something.
-Vegapunk can't be moved. So, no Sanji isn't carrying him away.
-The ancient robot will possibly help with Saturn.
-Bonney will probably come back with Chopper to save Vegapunk. She still needs to punch Saturn.

But for now it seems like a 2v2:
Sanji+Luffy vs Kizaru+Saturn

 

[ElderOnitar]

Sanji seems a lot weaker than Kizaru right now, honestly. I don't think he's meant to be a top tier so far.

One possible idea I have is that Sanji's Germa abilities could give him the power to manipulate light in some capacity and allowed him to pop Kizaru's laser. His elder brothers possess elemental powers that let them manipulate energy/electricity to create beams and explosions.

If Sanji can do that, and manipulate light (which fits him, considering his raid suit lets him turn invisible- ignoring/manipulating the light around him), then he's the perfect counter to Kizaru and can fight him despite being much weaker, like Luffy against Enel.

 

[MonsterZoro]

It’s called reverse roof top

but Sanji will make kizaru fall to his knees unlike zoro with kaido

 

[Welkin]

You say Vegapunk has to be saved and taken to the ship but he said himself that moving him at all will spell the end of his life. Either someone with the ability to heal has to come to them or Vegapunk actually dies as they escape

Sanji can't take Kizaru alone so he'll have to team up with Luffy to take him 2v1 until the Giants land on the island

Dunno what else could happen past that

As for Saturn... we don't know how far he was shot away from the skirmish nor do we know how fast he is. Everything is up in the air honestly

 

[KonyaruIchi]

Luffy & Sanji vs Kizaru is a given at first but Oda will 100% split them up until it becomes a duel, probably Luffy vs Kizaru alone while Saturn is off brooding like the dementia ridden old fart he is

 

[MegaSpider]

We've seen top commanders fight admirals, yonkou, and Mihawk. The time of getting low diffed is long gone.
We also haven't seen the upper limit of Sanji's exoskeleton. He handily beat Queen once he started using Ifrit.

So I think it's mostly going to be Sanji vs Kizaru and Luffy vs Saturn, but with some teaming up at the start of the fight before both break away and separate.
This is still an escape arc so I don't see Kizaru falling here.
If he is to lose then it's a 2v1 of Sanji+Luffy vs Kizaru. Saturn's a mystery still, he could be a punching bag or a top tier.

 

[Durableguy]

What about a straight 2 vs 2?

That was left off poll

 

[Necrohol]

Sanji loses to Kizaru mid diff. Zoro arrives and is saved by Sanji when he's about to lose mid- high diff. Sanji and Zoro extreme diff Kizaru.

 

[Gintoki]

Luffy and Sanji will beat Kizaru the way they beat Satori in Skypiea

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Sanji seems a lot weaker than Kizaru right now, honestly. I don't think he's meant to be a top tier so far.

One possible idea I have is that Sanji's Germa abilities could give him the power to manipulate light in some capacity and allowed him to pop Kizaru's laser. His elder brothers possess elemental powers that let them manipulate energy/electricity to create beams and explosions.

If Sanji can do that, and manipulate light (which fits him, considering his raid suit lets him turn invisible- ignoring/manipulating the light around him), then he's the perfect counter to Kizaru and can fight him despite being much weaker, like Luffy against Enel.

I like this theory. And paired with my own it makes sense even more I believe.

My take is that Sanji will be there showcasing his abilities for enough time so that Vegapunk can understand the science behind "the passion/power of love". He will then post arc help Sanji get much stronger through science (and steal/be inspired to incorporate the same ability to Pacifista or whatever).

I'm certain about the Vegapunk bit but I couldn't come up with what the scientific part could be. Perhaps it is like KingOnizam wrote some kind of ability to manipulate light. That is indeed a tough power to even figure out compared to say Ichiji that produces light/plasma.

 

[Gears Kaios]

I think it’ll be a 2v1 type of situation with Sanji breaking Kizaru’s ribs at one point during the battle