Speculations Sun God Nika Never Truly Existed

[OliveShark]

Sun God Nika Never Truly Existed
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You know, Kizaru had never seen or heard of a bird that could do what Marco did. It's possible the myths of the myth fruits were originally just myths. Ideas. They didn't truly exist. The same thing is true with Nika. For example, on one hand, Marco's Fruit may have been derived from a folktale about a Phoenix, and, on the other hand, the Nika Fruit may have been derived from the Elbaf story about a Sun God. However, this would not be considered a natural phenomenon. Instead, it is unnatural because it is based on advanced technology turning the dreams of people into reality using Devil Fruits, and not natural evolution.

It would be natural if it occurred because of natural evolution, but the Devil Fruits are highly likely to be the result of advanced technology developed by the Ancient Kingdom which creates a bridge between the natural and the supernatural. Therefore, the Devil Fruits and their abilities are not, strictly speaking, products of natural evolution. They are man-made constructs that house supernatural energies, and when someone consumes one, they begin to develop unnatural powers. Although they are inherently unnatural, they are not considered magical because they are the product of mankind's progress in science and technology.

With that said, it should be noted that all mythological Devil Fruits should fall into this same line of reasoning. They never truly existed as living beings. Instead, they began as a dream or a belief and that dream or belief was turned into some fruit.

In any case, with that said, it is unlikely that the Sun God Nika ever truly existed. If he did exist naturally as a product of natural evolution, then things he does may be considered magical and that would contradict the rules of the story concerning Devil Fruit abilities. Many people currently believe that Nika existed before Joyboy did, but I have my doubts about that. We know the Giants had a myth about Nika the Sun God, but did any of the Giants say they met Nika before Joyboy? I get the feeling that readers are taking the myth about Nika the Sun God as PROOF that he existed before Joyboy, and that may not be true. It's a wild leap of logic.

 

[OykotsTreasure]

I, personally, think that some version of Nika existed in the past. Though, possibly not as a actual "God". The Zoan Fruits are said to have some form of will of their own. And with the God Fruits specifically, I think it's pretty likely that they're based on some original person whose personality is "piloting" the Fruits. But, whether they're just based on other people's memory of that person, or if that person's "soul" is somehow transferred into the Fruit itself, is a little hard to say. It really could go either way in this story. Since they are "God" level fruits, they might be literally built different. I think NIka did exist, but maybe not originally as a God. Nika probably "ascended" to godhood whenever the Fruit was "inspired", whichever way it actually happened. Maybe he was originally a great warrior or king...or maybe even a astronaut from another world, who can say?

Think of the God and Mythical Fruits as more..."exaggerations", rather than outright "lies", I suppose would be a good way of putting it.

Personally, I'm thinking that Nika is somehow tied to the "Age of Heaven". The One Piece World actually does have it's own dating and calendar system. We are currently in year 1524 of the "Age of the Sea Circle", which could be a cheeky way of referencing the creation of the Red Line. Something big happened in this world 1524 years ago that caused the entire world to reset it's dating system. Possibly, the coming of some sort of "savior" figure, like Nika. It's just been so long that Nika has passed into legend.

So, yeah. I'm personally betting that there's actually TWO Void Histories. One from 800 years ago. And another one 1524 years ago. Almost double the length of time in between these periods. Which seems to indicate that whatever is going on, is repeating itself on some sort of schedule. Potentially, at least. I could be on the wrong track with all of this.

It's not impossible that Nika is entirely a old legend that became real due to the Devil Fruits. But, this story has a lot of things that are claimed to be "legends" that turn out to be based on something that was real. Skypiea. Dragons. The Germa 66. All things the people at large believed were just "stories", that turn out to be real. I don't think Nika will be a exception to this trend. Nika might not be exactly as the legends say he was, but Nika was probably real, in some form.