Powers & Abilities The Black Blade User:Aramaki

[ShadowStyle369]

Good Morning Fellow Worstgen users.

For the longest of time i have thought that Aramaki having a black blade was a simple Fallacy. Oda wanted to start a discussion on if he had one or not and basically get the fandom to argue back and forth about it. From my fellow sword bros who said it made no sense for him to have one, to those using it to downplay the Goat.

Currently with the manga it seems aramaki does indeed have a black blade. For comparison

Shusui

Aramaki in Manga

Being straight up I have convinced myself and i believe Aramaki wields a supreme grade blade, and it is black. This leaves us with a question If Aramaki has a black blade why did he not use it at Wano? or more importantly Maryjoa when confronting Fujitora? In order for me to speculate on this lets refresh ourselves.

• Roronoa Zoro

Shusui noted for its heaviness let off very impressive destructive attacks it was big and slow, and per zoro own words the sword would be a pain to master. After the two year time skip i don't think anyone would argue that he had not mastered the blade. Oda even gave zoro the same feat that mihawk had pretimeskip with a inferior blade. Where mihawk cuts the ships into three, Zoro cuts it in half.

• Dracule Mihawk

With Yoru we see that mihawk can go from being able to gently deflect bullets with subtlety. To letting lose unrestrained attacks that can cleave the massive iceburg in two as the wss he has complete mastery over the worlds strongest Blade.

• Aramaki

Aramaki in Color

Oda establishes that greenbull has not eaten in three years he also show us that aramaki does not even need to eat he is self sustaining when he drains others and he can drink through his tree vines. Aramaki sense of justice is Suicidal justice i think it is safe to assume that with his devil fruit power there is absolutely no way he can achieve that sense of justice it is illogical as the power is what is sustaining him for 3 years. So How can aramaki achieve his sense of justice??? By now i think everyone should know where i am about to go.

• Blades

I Speculate that aramaki supreme grade black blade personality behaves like enma he has not mastered the blade even though he is a admiral rank the blade has a deadly disposition it may also be posssible that he did not make the blade black but was found or given to him it may also have something to do with his tatoo. This would makes sense as to why he would not use it at maryjoa, as he can not control it when he uses it, and the cuts would be akin to mihawk slicing the iceburg....way too destructive even more destructive than his df . In wano his df power was enough and shanks stopped him before he could fight tougher opponents. Oda can also give aramaki a gimmick with his fruit power and with the black blade they can work perfectly together as he can sustain himself as he fights but what if someone with strong enough conquerors faces him what if he can not use the fruit power? Suicidal justice as the sword would be actively trying to kill him as he fights for his sense of justice.


Thoughts, does this work or not make any sense what so ever? I am not dying on this hill ,but i think it would satisfy the sword bros and there would be no mihawk downplay what so ever with this route. Aramaki wielding a black blade that is killing himself just seems badass

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[NikaInParis]

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[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

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They are for me.

 

[NikaInParis]

They are for me.

Somwthing's broken on my end then ig

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

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Nope images don‘t show for me as well.

 

[Gorosei]

If Oda wants to be creative, he'll write Greenbull's lover was a swordsman and her will lives on in the sword even though Greenbull doesn't know the first thing about swordsmanship.

More likely its just a sheath and the tattoo is nothing more than a symbol of the Japanese actor his design is based off with no other follow through in character development.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Your images aren't showing, at least for me

hmm not sure i did them like i always did. That sucks

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If Oda wants to be creative, he'll write Greenbull's lover was a swordsman and her will lives on in the sword even though Greenbull doesn't know the first thing about swordsmanship.

More likely its just a sheath and the tattoo is nothing more than a symbol of the Japanese actor his design is based off with no other follow through in character development.

I thought about that as well, but figured i was reaching extremely far with it. I would like that though.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

images work for me, idk.

i think some of this is interesting. green bull seems like he has a black blade to me. i agree that it has something to do with death, but i'm not sure exactly how. i think you need to fulfill the owner's dreams to turn the blade black. so if zoro becomes the worlds strongest swordsman and completes kuina's dream, her sword will become a black blade.

i really like the idea of aramaki carrying his dead wife or lover's sword or something. but i don't like the idea of him being unskilled with it. i think he's probably going to be quite a good swordsman, but much like simply eating food is a pain, doing proper swordsmanship is a pain to him. it may bring back bad memories or something. he seems to just prefer to use his devil fruit. it's easier for him to become a forest and overwhelm his opponents while draining them of life

 

[ShadowStyle369]

images work for me, idk.

i think some of this is interesting. green bull seems like he has a black blade to me. i agree that it has something to do with death, but i'm not sure exactly how. i think you need to fulfill the owner's dreams to turn the blade black. so if zoro becomes the worlds strongest swordsman and completes kuina's dream, her sword will become a black blade.

i really like the idea of aramaki carrying his dead wife or lover's sword or something. but i don't like the idea of him being unskilled with it. i think he's probably going to be quite a good swordsman, but much like simply eating food is a pain, doing proper swordsmanship is a pain to him. it may bring back bad memories or something. he seems to just prefer to use his devil fruit. it's easier for him to become a forest and overwhelm his opponents while draining them of life

My only correlation with him being unskilled with it is it would in theory behave like enma and be killing him=suicidal justice=nice gimmick with his fruit power. Also it would answer why he never used it on maryjoa... him being skilled with it make him look all the more stupid, but oda does choose to keep the admirals held back so maybe these points do not matter in the grand scheme of things.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

My only correlation with him being unskilled with it is it would in theory behave like enma and be killing him=suicidal justice=nice gimmick with his fruit power. Also it would answer why he never used it on maryjoa... him being skilled with it make him look all the more stupid, but oda does choose to keep the admirals held back so maybe these points do not matter in the grand scheme of things.

him and fujitora were both trying to hold back so they didnt destroy mariejoa so now im leaning towards believing the enma thing is right and it just slices everything once he brings it out

 

[Kiri]

Good Morning Fellow Worstgen users.

For the longest of time i have thought that Aramaki having a black blade was a simple Fallacy. Oda wanted to start a discussion on if he had one or not and basically get the fandom to argue back and forth about it. From my fellow sword bros who said it made no sense for him to have one, to those using it to downplay the Goat.

Currently with the manga it seems aramaki does indeed have a black blade. For comparison

Shusui

Aramaki in Manga

Being straight up I have convinced myself and i believe Aramaki wields a supreme grade blade, and it is black. This leaves us with a question If Aramaki has a black blade why did he not use it at Wano? or more importantly Maryjoa when confronting Fujitora? In order for me to speculate on this lets refresh ourselves.

• Roronoa Zoro

Shusui noted for its heaviness let off very impressive destructive attacks it was big and slow, and per zoro own words the sword would be a pain to master. After the two year time skip i don't think anyone would argue that he had not mastered the blade. Oda even gave zoro the same feat that mihawk had pretimeskip with a inferior blade. Where mihawk cuts the ships into three, Zoro cuts it in half.

• Dracule Mihawk

With Yoru we see that mihawk can go from being able to gently deflect bullets with subtlety. To letting lose unrestrained attacks that can cleave the massive iceburg in two as the wss he has complete mastery over the worlds strongest Blade.

• Aramaki

Aramaki in Color

Oda establishes that greenbull has not eaten in three years he also show us that aramaki does not even need to eat he is self sustaining when he drains others and he can drink through his tree vines. Aramaki sense of justice is Suicidal justice i think it is safe to assume that with his devil fruit power there is absolutely no way he can achieve that sense of justice it is illogical as the power is what is sustaining him for 3 years. So How can aramaki achieve his sense of justice??? By now i think everyone should know where i am about to go.

• Blades

I Speculate that aramaki supreme grade black blade personality behaves like enma he has not mastered the blade even though he is a admiral rank the blade has a deadly disposition it may also be posssible that he did not make the blade black but was found or given to him it may also have something to do with his tatoo. This would makes sense as to why he would not use it at maryjoa, as he can not control it when he uses it, and the cuts would be akin to mihawk slicing the iceburg....way too destructive even more destructive than his df . In wano his df power was enough and shanks stopped him before he could fight tougher opponents. Oda can also give aramaki a gimmick with his fruit power and with the black blade they can work perfectly together as he can sustain himself as he fights but what if someone with strong enough conquerors faces him what if he can not use the fruit power? Suicidal justice as the sword would be actively trying to kill him as he fights for his sense of justice.


Thoughts, does this work or not make any sense what so ever? I am not dying on this hill ,but i think it would satisfy the sword bros and there would be no mihawk downplay what so ever with this route. Aramaki wielding a black blade that is killing himself just seems badass

Spoiler: tags

@Monkey D Monkey @kenedyfake @Topi Jerami @Sentinel @comrade @Den_Den_Mushi @trav @Demongodzolo @Marimo_420 @Aknolagon @Cyrus the Cactus @Rivaille @Monet @Garp the Fist @Gol D. Roger @Afroking @ImmaIvanoM @MarineHQ @Luffy bin Dragon @Luffy is the mc @Rmstorm @Fleet Leader Fenaker @yj @Fiji @Playa4321 @Guan Yu @Ice devil slayer @Sword God Ryuma @Zenos7 @Akai2 @MasterD @RayanOO @Haoshoku @Dark Hound @Camie @Thabeast @style @zorojurou @RyumaZoro @Gon’s Missing Arm @Yo Tan Wa @Orojackson Refugee @Sunita @IceWitch @ShadyOjiro @LolonoisZolo @Grumpy Zoro @HA001 OF THE RAIN @Natalija @Enma @Rukusho @Sade @Sadistic Senpai @stormylife @Geo @Reborn @Cinera @ShishioIsBack @Shishi @Nidai_Kitetsu @Mikail @mly90 @The White Crane @Gauntlet @Kuro Ashi @sanjikun @Extravlad @Lion of Olympus @Buusatan94 @AL sama @Patryipe @Kiwipom @Owl Ki @Salah WG @stairs-kun @BOCCHI @EtenBoby @Fujishiro @Bogard @Punpun @Seth @Elder Lee Hung @I'mTired @Gensui Sazid @Marco @Erkan12 @Blackbeard @Alpha @matt245 @God D usopp @Shanal @ConquistadoR @Jet Pistol @Captain Luffy @Brendan Schaub @park_min young @Daikenki @WesMidnight @serialwinnerv7 @Malick the last Light @yorosenpai @Shinsekai @King of the world @Daikenki @Seth @LadyVados @BornInAbyss @Fuckthis3 @ShiNoGekai @hayze moya @Meeyori @Franosuke @wys @Lor D. Coast @Kerkovian @wordy @Psychiatrist @kumae @Mr. Reloaded @Taylor_ @ChefboiiFuego @Blazing Lion @grey matter @Owari Da @Malio @OGshine @HAJI @Kurozumi Giggio @Mr.Baj1o @Red Admiral @Mr.9000 @Vanlax @Bt7207. @Croco boy @Herrera95 @JayKitetsu @LilPanda @hedera__helix @Redboy776 @Cruxroux @JoNdule @nik87

Shusui is not "big and slow", Shusui is a "thin" blade, and it's heavy despite being thin because that's a characteristic of it being a black blade. Zoro called it heavy despite being able to lift up an entire building.

This makes Mihawk wielding Yoru even more impressive as Yoru is over 7ft tall, apparently it's a 2.20m Black blade.

In terms of GB, if the blade is that destructive it makes sense why he didn't use it with celestials around ad marejois. But he should have used it in Wano then, because GB said himself that it's a lawless land not affiliated with the government, the country and it's citizens literally have no rights as he said, he could do whatever he wanted to them.

So it would have made sense if he started swinging crazily at Wano, he was already going in without telling anyone, to jump the gun I suppose, and I don't think he cared that the WG would want to capture wano, but was more focused on dealing with the alliance that beat Kaido and Big mom when they're weakened.

In terms of it being a black blade, we'll just have to see, that vivre card is sus already, because it doesn't show the haki on the tendrils he made, but shows the blade being black, that's an inconsistency, and if we use this line of logic to call it a black blade, we could say GB was never really coating his tree hands or whatever in that scene since the Vivre card doesn't show it. Which would contradict the manga.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

him and fujitora were both trying to hold back so they didnt destroy mariejoa so now im leaning towards believing the enma thing is right and it just slices everything once he brings it out

Yea it makes sense, leave it up to oda to do exactly this or something along the lines of it. I used to think how you did about the creation of a black blade, but i am not to sure anymore.

I thought:

Enma:kill kaido and turn black.

Wado:Defeat mihawk and turn black.

sandai: maybe defeat shodai?

But there is also the old man who stressed the importance of bending the sword to zoros will. So maybe its a combination of the two

 

[Vanlax]

I think suicidal justice means being reckless.

Fighting for justice to the point Aramaki doesn't care what happens to him even if he dies.

Look at him trying to fight the Alliance who defeated two Yonko alone.

Also Aramaki said "not yet" on RHP. Which means it's not about power level but something else. Maybe it is indeed the Figarland connection making Shanks untouchable.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

Shusui is not "big and slow", Shusui is a "thin" blade, and it's heavy despite being thin because that's a characteristic of it being a black blade. Zoro called it heavy despite being able to lift up an entire building.

This makes Mihawk wielding Yoru even more impressive as Yoru is over 7ft tall, apparently it's a 2.20m Black blade.

In terms of GB, if the blade is that destructive it makes sense why he didn't use it with celestials around ad marejois. But he should have used it in Wano then, because GB said himself that it's a lawless land not affiliated with the government, the country and it's citizens literally have no rights as he said, he could do whatever he wanted to them.

So it would have made sense if he started swinging crazily at Wano, he was already going in without telling anyone, to jump the gun I suppose, and I don't think he cared that the WG would want to capture wano, but was more focused on dealing with the alliance that beat Kaido and Big mom when they're weakened.

In terms of it being a black blade, we'll just have to see, that vivre card is sus already, because it doesn't show the haki on the tendrils he made, but shows the blade being black, that's an inconsistency, and if we use this line of logic to call it a black blade, we could say GB was never really coating his tree hands or whatever in that scene since the Vivre card doesn't show it. Which would contradict the manga.

To be fair i don't think GB needed his sword until he reached luffy and the gang. His df power was more than enough and he was only halted by shanks and his crew. Same for his raid on the prison his df was more than enough to subdue queen/king.

Also for myself at least i used the vivre card, but the manga is more than enough for me i say he has a black blade on his waist until oda proves it wrong/correct.

To me at least he would only use this blade when he absolutely has to because of its destructive nature and the possibility of it trying to kill him to back up his own sense of justice which is suicidal.

 

[kurwa]

What's with dumbasses and constantly asking why Aramaki didn't use his real power?

News flash, dumbasses, this is Oda, he doesn't let characters use their powers in order to not reveal shit too soon.
Did you remember how Queen decided to not use his main cyborg powers on the Yonko and just went full zoan and a simple headbutt?

Why didn't Kaido go base form and beat scabbards instead of his giant dragon?
Why didn't Oda show Kaido in hybrid form against Oden?

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I think suicidal justice means being reckless.

Fighting for justice to the point Aramaki doesn't care what happens to him even if he dies.

Look at him trying to fight the Alliance who defeated two Yonko alone.

Also Aramaki said "not yet" on RHP. Which means it's not about power level but something else. Maybe it is indeed the Figarland connection making Shanks untouchable.

It honestly could just be this and i am reaching . I think my only push back to this is his df seemingly gives him life, it sustains him and has been doing so for three years.In order for Him to be reckless/suicidal i figured there has to be something else, and so far the only thing i could come up with is the blade on his hip behaving like enma to a much greater degree because it has no restraint and does what it wants

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What's with dumbasses and constantly asking why Aramaki didn't use his real power?

News flash, dumbasses, this is Oda, he doesn't let characters use their powers in order to not reveal shit too soon.
Did you remember how Queen decided to not use his main cyborg powers on the Yonko and just went full zoan and a simple headbutt?

Why didn't Kaido go base form and beat scabbards instead of his giant dragon?
Why didn't Oda show Kaido in hybrid form against Oden?

uhh manybe because its fun to speculate and try to figure out why he seemingly has a black blade that he has never used even at maryjoa? And instead just sticks to his df use

 

[Kiri]

To be fair i don't think GB needed his sword until he reached luffy and the gang. His df power was more than enough and he was only halted by shanks and his crew. Same for his raid on the prison his df was more than enough to subdue queen/king.

Also for myself at least i used the vivre card, but the manga is more than enough for me i say he has a black blade on his waist until oda proves it wrong/correct.

To me at least he would only use this blade when he absolutely has to because of its destructive nature and the possibility of it trying to kill him to back up his own sense of justice which is suicidal.

He could be reckless in that he just charges in, but he's not about to try to push against tremendous odds, like he told the red hair pirates, he'd fight them later.

In terms of the blade, I think it would be boring if it was like enma. What if GB has to stab himself through with it, in order for it to feed on his blood, to activate it's power. In the same way he feeds off nutrition with his df to not eat, his sword would have to feed on his life force, which he can afford to do.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

He could be reckless in that he just charges in, but he's not about to try to push against tremendous odds, like he told the red hair pirates, he'd fight them later.

In terms of the blade, I think it would be boring if it was like enma. What if GB has to stab himself through with it, in order for it to feed on his blood, to activate it's power. In the same way he feeds off nutrition with his df to not eat, his sword would have to feed on his life force, which he can afford to do.

My only reason for going the enma route is i honestly expect it more when zoro gets more difficult blades. His mastery of them will increase his swordsmanship/haki depending on the personality of the sword. I am not against aramaki needing to wound himself in order to use the blade. I would wonder why his blade is the only one that does that but oda doesnt really have to give us a explanation if it breaks or something.

 

[Vanlax]

It honestly could just be this and i am reaching . I think my only push back to this is his df seemingly gives him life, it sustains him and has been doing so for three years.In order for Him to be reckless/suicidal i figured there has to be something else, and so far the only thing i could come up with is the blade on his hip behaving like enma to a much greater degree because it has no restraint and does what it wants

I like the idea actually and it would be funny. It's like a double-edged sword. He uses it and Oda hypes him with a strong slash cutting a mountain or something, next panel the sword is trying to kill him lol.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

I like the idea actually and it would be funny. It's like a double-edged sword. He uses it and Oda hypes him with a strong slash cutting a mountain or something, next panel the sword is trying to kill him lol.

Yea i think it has merit, and then thanks to his df it basically cancels it out... His gimmick being A strong conqueror on the level of shanks would be needed to cancel out his df power to beat him or something like that.