Questions & Mysteries The Elders and Wuxing

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(I seriously wasted my time on this none of it made sense by the end of it. I have a headache researching everything. Flopped Idea but you all can have read check if you can make sense out of anything)
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Allow me to explain 5 elements of Wuxing and Gorosei.
ElementsPlanetManga CreationElder
WoodJupiterEarth WormShepard
FireMarsVermillion BirdMarcus
EarthSaturnBull/OxJaygarcia
MetalVenusHorseNasujuro
WaterMercuryPigTopman

Now let's look at the combination of these elements.
Now after doing a but research , I went deep and deep to get wider range of Element from the Combination of 5 main elements. And I found this. I doubt the relevency of this image , but dude who uploaded this , said so , So I'm trusting it for now because it gives me a better view into my own theory.
I was inspired by the Chakra Nature Chart from Naruto. They have 5 primary Chakra natures: Fire, Wind, Lightning, Earth and Water roughly inspired off of the 5 Chinese elements: Fire, Earth, Metal, Water, and Wood. When you combine two chakra natures it creates a new chakra nature, so I decided I thought it would be fun to try my hand at doing the same with the Wu Xing elements and see what kinds of combinations I could make.

-Fire is associated with Yang, the Vermillion Bird, the Red Dragon King, the direction South, the season Summer, the planet Mars, and the qualities of Passion, Intensity, Hate, and Resolve.

-Earth is associated with Balance of both Yin and Yang, The Yellow Dragon King, the Center, the season of the Late Summer Harvest, the planet Saturn, and the qualities of Agreeableness, Honesty, Anxiety, and Joy.

-Metal is associated with Yin, the White Tiger, the White Dragon King, the direction West, the season of Autumn, the planet Venus, and the qualities of Intuition, Rationality, Greif, and Bravery.

-Water is associated with Yin, the Black Tortoise and Snake, the Black Dragon King, the direction North, the season Winter, the planet Mercury, and the qualities of Erudition, Resourcefulness, Fear, and Gentleness.

-Wood is associated with Yang, the Azure Dragon King, the direction East, the season Spring, the planet Jupiter, and the qualities of Idealism, Spontaneity, Anger, and Kindness.

Fire and Earth creates Lava

Fire and Metal creates Lightning (Fire= Energy & Metal=Conductivity)

Fire and Water creates Boil

Fire and Wood creates Wind (Fire is Heat and Sunlight, and plants produce air, when the air is heated on on side of the earth it creates wind)

Earth and Metal creates Magnetism (The earth's core is Iron and produces the magnetic field that protects the earth from harmful solar radiation)

Earth and Water creates Ink (It's a little more complicated than just earth and water but in old times they mixed minerals with water to make ink)

Earth and Wood creates Diamond (All diamonds on earth are made from dead organic matter that's been buried in the earth for millions of years under heat and pressure)

Metal and Water creates Ice (Metal is cold hard and if heated up enough it melts, and Water and Ice are both made of H2O)

Metal and Wood creates Sound (Instruments are typically made from wood and metal, especially Woodwinds and Brass)

Water and Wood creates Poison (Water is the most neutral pH but can become Basic or Acidic which can also be Toxic and there is a wide variety of Poisonous plants)
So uh, I've been doing a lot of Googling and taking cursory looks into Wu Xing for the sake of making Xiaolin Showdown ocs, which eventually led me to this page of Beijingcenter.org where they, apparently, decided to use your picture here: https://thebeijingcenter.org/chinese-wuxing/


It's kinda funny, when I first stumbled upon the page I thought, "Wow! That's a really interesting chart depicting how these elements blend together. I don't know why I've never seen this aspect of Wu Xing before!" But then I thought about more and went, "Wait, why haven't I seen it before? Why is this the only source of it I can find?" Which led me to searching the image source and, well, here I am.


I don't know if you already know about this or how you feel about them using this picture, but I figured this could either serve to inform you, or serve as a silly anecdote of someone who almost believed this picture is an official part of Wu Xing. Either way, it's a very fun chart, so kudos.



GoroseiMain ElementCombinationTheir PowersWhy
Shephard JupeterWoodWood + Fire = Wind
Wood + Water = Poison
Wood + Earth = Diamond
Wood + Metal = Sound
Wind
Marcus MarsFireFire + Water = Boil
Fire + Wood = Wind
Fire + Earth = Lava
Fire + Metal = Lightening
Lightening
Jaygarcia SaturnEarthEarth + Fire = Lava
Earth + Water = Ink
Earth + Metal = Magnetism
Earth + Wood = Diamond
Ink
Ethanbaron V. NasujuroMetalMetal + Fire = Lightening
Metal + Water = Ice
Metal + Earth = Magnetism
Metal + Wood = Sound
Ice
Topman WarcuryWaterWater + Fire = Boil
Water + Metal = Ice
Water + Wood = Poison
Water + Earth = Ink
BoilLol There's nothing as of Now , But out of all the options of Boil , Ice , Poison , Ink. I think It's Boil most Probably , Why? I'll Explain Below




Now Counter to these You need to use polar opposite elements.
I got this idea from the Movie I was watching , Exhuma ,
Where an Anima (Things created out of Inanimate object and living object) With base element property of Fire and Metal , Got hurt only by Wood and Water. Water Destroys Fire and Wet Wood is Stronger than Metal.

Making counters like that.
We will take example of Warcury , Whose Main element is Water and Other element is Fire , which makes it Boil , Emeth was thrown into water and due to which he was wet (LOL) , which countered the Fire element of Emeth. Emeth is Metal , and Metal Collects Water (Water condenses on metal for example) That's why he was effective whereas Luffy used elements like , Rubber + fire because Red Roc has fire in it and Rubber comes from tree which is wood.

So Warcury , Water + Fire was Countered Metal + Water ,
Now let's give other gorosei a guess on what would hurt them.


GoroseiElementCounter
WarcuryWater + FireMetal + water , It could be anything other Metal as well , maybe Emeth only countered the Fire element and not the Metal element hence Warcury Regenerated
NasujuroMetal + WaterAs We already know , Zoro is going to be most likely opponent of Nasujuro , I believe Zoro "hellfire" will counter the Water element of Nasujuro and Metal , swords ofc , One with Stronger Sword will win , I'm talking durablity wise , which means Haki , or maybe a plot to unlock Black Blade for zoro as they durablity Higher 12 supreme grade weapon.
JaygarciaEarth + WaterWood Depletes earth , Water can be overcome by Fire , Hence the Red Roc Luffy used on Warcury , if he tried that on Jaygarcia , there is a high possiblity It would have damaged Jaygarcia because Rubber is wood and red roc is on fire , maybe this is a setup for Bonney with Nika powers vs Jaygarcia , or rubber property from Bonney and Sabo helps out with Fire element.
Marcus MarsFire + MetalSo coming to this , Second Element has to be countered , Fire melts Metal and for Fire element , Water and earth Counter fire , Currently Ash/Smoke is only what comes mind , Maybe this will be 2v1 in Marcus vs Sanji (Fire) + Smoker (Smoke) Or Maybe another 1v1 like zoro vs Nasujuro for Sanji vs Marcus on who can produce hoter flame.
Shephard Ju PeterWood + FireFire , is directly countered by water and earth and wood is countered by metal. and if You look above , Metal + Earth creates Magnetism , we all know who uses Magnetism , maybe another 1v2 or 1v1 , Kidd vs Jupeter ot Kidd and Law vs Jupeter


I know majority is my headcanon but I'm just pushing forward an idea how they can be countered.
many won't even like the match ups.

also I found alternative to it.

All the used elements are
- Lava
- Magnetism
- Sound
- Poison
- Diamond

- Lava can be attributed to Akainu
- Magnetism can be attributed to Fujitora as well , as he attracts and repel
- Sound is viberation and Gura gura no mi is what comes to mind. so Blackbeard.
- Poison can be from Aramaki , as he uses wood , and can produce any type of poison.
- Diamond , I legit have no idea. Maybe someone with Absolute defense , No fuckin way it's gonna be Jozu but maybe someone ate Jozu fruit or some other fruit providing Some defense stats. Idk who though.


Also , I personally wanted to give Diamond to Warcury due to his toughness and Poison to Jaygarcia ,
but sadly , Diamond is Wood + earth and Warcury is Water + fire for boil.
and Poison is Water + Wood , and Jaygarcia is Earth + Water creating Ink.


All the Wiki Info I used for reaction :-
Inter-promoting
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The generating cycle ( xiāngshēng) is:
  • Wood feeds Fire​
  • Fire produces Earth (ash, lava)​
  • Earth bears Metal (geological processes produce minerals)​
  • Metal collects Water (water vapor condenses on metal, for example)​
  • Water nourishes Wood (Water flowers, plants and other changes in forest)​
Weakening
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The reverse generating cycle (/ xiāngxiè) is:
  • Wood depletes Water​
  • Water rusts Metal​
  • Metal impoverishes Earth (erosion, destructive mining of minerals)​
  • Earth smothers Fire​
  • Fire burns Wood (forest fires)​
Inter-regulating
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The destructive cycle ( xiāngkè) is:
  • Wood grasps (or stabilizes) Earth (roots of trees can prevent soil erosion)​
  • Earth contains (or directs) Water (dams or river banks)​
  • Water dampens (or regulates) Fire​
  • Fire melts (or refines or shapes) Metal​
  • Metal chops (or carves) Wood​
Overacting
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The excessive destructive cycle ( xiāngchéng) is:
  • Wood depletes Earth (depletion of nutrients in soil, over-farming, overcultivation)​
  • Earth obstructs Water (over-damming)​
  • Water extinguishes Fire​
  • Fire melts Metal (affecting its integrity)​
  • Metal makes Wood rigid to easily snap.​
Counteracting
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A reverse or deficient destructive cycle ( xiāngwǔ or xiānghào) is:​
  • Wood dulls Metal​
  • Metal de-energizes Fire (conducting heat away)​
  • Fire evaporates Water​
  • Water muddies (or destabilizes) Earth​
  • Earth rots Wood (buried wood rots)​

 
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