Powers & Abilities The end of the mystery, AKAINU lethality, COA works? Yes it works.

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Sasaki Kojirō

#1
Well, it’s not a new factor that people like to speculate that the COA doesn’t work against Akainu’s “insane” lethality:
“LMAO he wiped half of WB’s face”,

“Lol, caused a scar on Luffy, who couldn’t use COA "
" LOL, your punch went through the JIMBEI that used the body as a shield, and unprepared, probably without COA ".

I made a very detailed post about WB's HAKI levels in MF and why he suffered damage to AKAINU's punch.
So I don't think it's accurate anymore, explaining the same thing over and over:

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/understand-white-beard-vs-akainu-haki-luffy-haki-wb-zoro-kills-akainu.12964/

As everyone knows, ACE's HAKI is not an exaggeration, he faced BARBA NEGRA only with YAMI and faced JIMBEI for 5 days, lost to BB and won JIMBEI (tie).

After being captured he suffered a series of unimaginable tortures weakening his physical condition and obviously if you are weak, your HAKI usually work less efficiently, as was the case with Luffy in dressrosa when he did not fully recover his HAKI.

ACE looked like serious bruises, bruises all over the body and that he didn't even fight in the war, he already showed fatigue.

You will see below some panels that I separated for you to observe how much ACE was worn and tired, tired, shaking, sweating in exaggeration, how unusual he was, how far from his perfect state (100% of his energies), he was ?



ACE collided with AKAINU which created a large amount of MAGMA and a fist comparable to the size he used to collide with WB.

ACE then has its fist consumed by the magma and the full impact of the blow.

Then, the ACE completely worn out as I mentioned above, manages to reposition itself.

Now the final touch, we know that the MAGMA attack that AKAINU used with a big volcanic explosion, is a punch comparable to the one he used to collide with WB, the punch (blow) of fully hitting ACE's fist, consuming part of your arm, but because ACE's hand, the same one that was consumed by the magma and collided with AKAINU, is there no noticeable damage on this panel?

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Is it because your JIMBEI-level COA is able to block MAGMA?
That the normal COA can block AKAINU's MAGMA is nothing new, we have another example of CURIEL that was bathed in MAGMA and was fine after that, at the WB's funeral.

ACE was only moroto by AKAINU because he threw himself in front of danger without hesitating to protect his brother, he thoughtlessly does it, just like Roger, so he did not use COA since he did something last minute and unreasonably to save his brother.


Any damage AKAINU did to the ACE fist was minimal, the COA fully protected him.
A weaker COA than that of KAIDO, BM, SHANKS, BB.
Basic COA is already overcoming akainu's MAGMA.


How the hell is a punch from AKAINU MF, who barely hurt ACE, tired and exhausted mentally and physically, with a weak COA and fragile skin, going to cause serious damage to any of the Yonkous? mainly KAIDO with a monstrous HAKI according to the LAW, and with an absurd skin, the same for BM?
That shitty punch hardly hurt ACE and his fist that received a direct blow..

People keep insinuating as if AKAINU were a very difficult opponent to fight, that it is impossible to fight against him, as in fact he is not, and the only requirement that you need to have to face him is: COA level ACE MF, exhausted.

That is why KAIDO is the most difficult to be knocked down (defeated), to cause real damage, you need to have COA + ACOA + ADCO all combined, he is also tough, and resistant, has a recovery from impressive blows.



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Sasaki Kojirō

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Simple hardening was enough for Shanks and Vista's swords to not get burned. Same with Marco's talons. Akainu's magma is overrated by fanboys who ignore that people like WB could barely use haki.
Yes, basic COA is enough to fight AKAINU, but people try to treat you as someone special like KAIDO, as it really doesn't make any sense, for example for KAIDO, you need to move from COA to ACOA and from ACOA to ADCOC to be efficient, for AKAINU only COA, unfortunately it is reality.
COA of all Yonkos> ACE MF.

2 of the emperors besides having a monstrous COA according to LAW, have a skin that to overcome it and cause damage is necessary, COA + ADCOA + ADCOC working together.
Of course, ODA can do very well that AKAINU can damage KAIDO or BM, since the difference that he programmed the power of the YONKOUS is outside the curve that is unfair to AKAINU.

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Basic CoA is enough to block his Magma as Shanks showed us
Yes, but here we are talking about a large-scale BANG of AKAINU vs ACE, and not someone passing through your MAGMA.
Notice how much AKAINU was struggling below, he even created a pile of magma on his right side, and he was certainly using COA, Ryou's talents for akainu are also 0, since he needed to touch the handle of ACE, ACE with a fist with just a normal COA withstood a beautiful akainu attack without suffering any serious damage, his fist was unharmed afterwards.​


 
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Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#11
His posts look most of the time one hell of a contrived mess.

But it's not that harsh to admire Akainu's, big beautiful dog, proficiency:

- Tanked two gura strikes looking far better than any Thunder Bagua Hybrid Kaido flung so far
- He destroyed his head and body rather quickly and Whitebeard's CoA was probably not supposed to be so badly inficiated by his health considering how lethal his AP still was, factually presumably much more lethal than anything Kaido individually put into existence thus far, hence his CoA protection too consequentially. Also hey even Scabbards were capable to somewhat damage Kaido's body with their shitty APs. Swords or not.
- Somewhat tanked that power without relying on barrier haki/magma defence. No substantial proof he was out when he probably merely rested as Whitebeard wasn't standing as his primal mandatory target, not that we knew at least.
- No awakening displayed
 
#16
How hot was it? Magma can easily get in the 1300 celsius.

But One Piece magma is likely way hotter.
but generally it's 700 °C and
Oden handled that ON HIS OWN
with NO HAKI ...
for 1 HOUR ...
AFTER getting defeated ...
while having 10 massive people over his head ...

do you see how fucking out of this world was his feat? Oden with Haki shit on magma just like Shanks didn't even registered Akainu as a thread
 
#17
His posts look most of the time one hell of a contrived mess.

But it's not that harsh to admire Akainu's, big beautiful dog, proficiency:

- Tanked two gura strikes looking far better than any Thunder Bagua Hybrid Kaido flung so far
- He destroyed his head and body rather quickly and Whitebeard's CoA was probably not supposed to be so badly inficiated by his health considering how lethal his AP still was, factually presumably much more lethal than anything Kaido individually put into existence thus far, hence his CoA protection too consequentially. Also hey even Scabbards were capable to somewhat damage Kaido's body with their shitty APs. Swords or not.
- Somewhat tanked that power without relying on barrier haki/magma defence. No substantial proof he was out when he probably merely rested as Whitebeard wasn't standing as his primal mandatory target, not that we knew at least.
- No awakening displayed
Akainu might not completely kill Kaido but certainly can melt his face and maybe half of his tail imo.
 
#18
Nice details, BB beat a far stronger fresh Ace, while Akainu killed a half dead Ace, who also clashed with Aokiji shortly before in that heavily wounded situation.

BB did the most of the work.

You can also show Garp's reaction to the beating that Ace took from BB.





If BB can almost break Ace's neck with one punch, imagine how many of Ace's bones were cracked after he finished with him.
 

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
#20
but generally it's 700 °C and
Oden handled that ON HIS OWN
with NO HAKI ...
for 1 HOUR ...
AFTER getting defeated ...
while having 10 massive people over his head ...

do you see how fucking out of this world was his feat? Oden with Haki shit on magma just like Shanks didn't even registered Akainu as a thread
Usually 700 to 1250, however Akainu is a magma logia, so I would expect the top feasible magma heat capacity.

Regardless given the way the logia was portrayed, I would still seriously doubt regardless of this point regarding IRL dynamic.
 
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