Versus Battle The Flood (Halo) VS Necromorphs (Dead Space)

TheAncientCenturion

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I’ve read a few of these threads on Reddit and I’ve never seen any good arguments for the Necromorphs, aside from explicit advantages given to them over the flood.

a single flood spore in atmosphere will infect an entire planet in a small period of time. It spread over a city, from a crashed ship, in hours. It’s incredibly virulent and resourceful.

Necromorphs take a much longer period of time to warp humanity in its area, making them more and more insane, killing each other and all that.

In terms of who’s moving quicker and growing faster, the Flood will always have that advantage.

And once the flood reaches a grave mind, I think it’s over for the Necromorphs. Those things are too intelligent and organized, on an organism that’s insanely hard to put down.

As for actual combat, Master Chief can canonically flip warthogs with one hand. Flood forms can send Chief through the air. Most Necromorphs are being bullied
 

Jaguark101

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Flood canonically stomps. They had the Forerunners (the most advanced species in Halo) on the backfoot to the point where the Forerunners decided to Build the Halo Array and use it to wipe out all life in the galaxy so the flood could starve to death.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Flood canonically stomps. They had the Forerunners (the most advanced species in Halo) on the backfoot to the point where the Forerunners decided to Build the Halo Array and use it to wipe out all life in the galaxy so the flood could starve to death.
The same forerunners who casually harvest Big Bangs from alternate universes, to fuel their technology. They were so sophisticated, it’s nuts.
 
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The strong side of the Necromorphs are the Markers. These almost indestructible objects can drive every thinking being into madness or into creating new marker.

The largest Necromorphs are planet size,don't know what's the biggest Food can become...
 

TheAncientCenturion

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The strong side of the Necromorphs are the Markers. These almost indestructible objects can drive every thinking being into madness or into creating new marker.

The largest Necromorphs are planet size,don't know what's the biggest Food can become...
When the flood infect an entire planet, they become a key mind—something more intelligent than any AI in Halo.

Key minds are able to infect reality itself, as forerunners in the Forerunner book trilogy report the stars changing and feeling wrong, when looking into flood controlled space

Tbh if the brother moons or w/e they’re called, are made of flesh, they already lost
 

Jaguark101

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The strong side of the Necromorphs are the Markers. These almost indestructible objects can drive every thinking being into madness or into creating new marker.

The largest Necromorphs are planet size,don't know what's the biggest Food can become...
Can necromorphs psychologically corrupt an AI? because if the Flood evolves to a Gravemind stage it can just like it did during the Forerunner/Flood war, they corrupted the most advance AI the forerunners ever built and convinced it to retaliate against its own creators.
 

Jaguark101

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Don't know, Deadspace has no such technology. But what are the chances of the Marker infecting the Flood and controlling them to fight their own kind?
I have played Deadspace 1 remake but I still don't know enough about them to say if they can control the flood or not. In my biased opinion no, cause I think a Gravemind and Keymind are more powerful but who knows.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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Don't know, Deadspace has no such technology. But what are the chances of the Marker infecting the Flood and controlling them to fight their own kind?
Not sure, the floods 1st state is a feral state where they’re known for being uncoordinated, but they have enough instinct to mature the infection to a proto-gravemind state.

At this point, they can rebuild starships based on the memories of the infected individuals and coordinate.

I’d say if a marker could infect a flood form, it’ll be here in the first two stages. After this is a grave mind and grave minds are too intelligent to be controlled. They all have the same sentience, every gravemind is identical no matter when it’s formed. And that’s important because the flood is originally derived from a god-like race that could manipulate galaxies, the flood is a perversion of that form.

Can’t see markers having enough power to mess with a gravemind.

Though even if a marker can mess with a feral infection, it won’t last long. The flood releases spores which contaminates the atmosphere and slowly terraforms a planet. Even if the flood fights itself, it’ll eventually spread far enough over the planet for a gravemind to form.
 
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After this is a grave mind and grave minds are too intelligent to be controlled.
Don't know if madness is a direct control. They just killing each other and become more necromorphs. If they are inelligent enough they build new marker,stonger then the previous ones before (see Deadspace 2 where Isaac created a far larger Marker then the one on Aegis IV)

At this point, they can rebuild starships based on the memories of the infected individuals and coordinate.
So they are clever enough to build new markers.

Can’t see markers having enough power to mess with a gravemind.
Thats the question. Is the markers madness manipulation strong enough to overcome the minds of the intelligent flood. In most cases madness manipulation is a too strong feat, like in case of Cthulhu or any lovecraftian being. And nothing other are the Necormorphs: lovecraftain aliens.

The flood releases spores which contaminates the atmosphere and slowly terraforms a planet. Even if the flood fights itself, it’ll eventually spread far enough over the planet for a gravemind to form.
But can they destroy the markers? Or corrupt them? These things are nearly indestructible.
 

Daniel

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Melee attacks from the Human and Elite flood forms are strong enough to break through Spartan/Elite energy shields with a single hit and they have enough durability to casualltly withstand the vast majority of melee attacks, other than the ones from the energy sword.

How durable is Master Chief with his Mark-V armor + his energy shields? Military technology from Halo may be > the tech in Dead Space, although the stopping power of their small arms weaponery may be comparable to one another...

Edit: If this is an all-out war on a universal scale then this could actually be lopsided in the Flood's favour. They pretty much won against the Forerunners before Halo got activated didn't they?
 
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