General & Others The force needed to "take down" Rocks Pirates

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JoNdule

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Albeit none was in peak (most weren't even in prime) bar Xebec,

It still took 3 powerful groups to just beat Rocks Pirates:
  • Garling & Holy knights
  • Garp & Navy
  • Roger & his crew
Not forgetting that Saturn might have fought them too

This combined force is strong as or stronger than SN Trio - Mink - Ninja - Marco alliance + defected beast pirates combined force that took down Rocks duo + beast pirates ( and Perospero & Orochi with his army) :
  • Prime Roger > Luffy
  • Prime Garp >~ Kid + Law
  • Prime Ray ~ Yamato + Marco
  • Garling ~ Zoro + Killer
  • Scopper >= Sanji + Jinbei
  • Holy knights + marines + Roger pirates < Minks- Samurai + SN trio crews
If Saturn fought them too then the force to take down Rocks pirates is greater than the group that took down Rocks duo...

Roger pirates have zero W against any rival crew outside of this battle where they had help.
Other than Roger who had to fight prime Captains/leaders,
Prime Rayleigh and Prime Scopper couldn't carry the crew over non prime crews (bmp, rocks, wbp)
 
Durableguy

Durableguy

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#4
And the Rocks Pirates probably fell apart rather than losing straight up.

Two guys taking down a yonko crew is ridiculous unless they are PK level. But two guys taking down a crew stronger than that? BS.

The Roger pirates alone are superior to any Yonko crew in modern era.

Add in Garp and it's a wrap. The Holy Knights can mostly be flying 6 to yc1 and still. It's a powerful force that took down the Rocks Pirates.
 
Ace

Ace

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#5
#5
Nah Rocks crew was a bunch of frontrunners

The moment they met a group who could take them on they abandoned their captain for their own self preservation
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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#6
You still believe Rocks Pirates were Defeated?
We have Confirmation that every Single One of them made it out of God's Valley without any Trouble
There is nothing that suggests They were Captured or Heavily Injured or Knocked Out or whatever
Only Xebec himself was Defeated (And it still needs to be shown clearly)

And it's evident that They don't fight as a Team, They were actually competing & had a Goal in mind
They apparently don't even consider Xebec their Captain, but They simply Ally with him cuz He was a Worthy Ruler of Pirate Island
Big Mom & Kaidou took what They wanted, John did have his Treasure & then Hid it, Wang Zhi replaced Xebec as Ruler of Pirate Island ... etc

It was a Chaotic Battle where Multiple Factions Clashed but their Goals were to Secure certain things rather than Defeat the Enemy
Xebec is only One who is said to be Defeated by combined effort of Roger & Garp (But that needs to be Confirmed)
 
Tyki_Mikk

Tyki_Mikk

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And take in mind that Xebec had pirates in his crew who betrayed him.

It was basically Rocks pirates vs Roger pirates+Garp and Navy+Garling and Holy Knights. And you see how damaged and badly injuried Garp was after the battle.

Rocks pirates>>Big Mom and Kaido crew
Xebec=>Kaido
Primebeard>Old Linlin
Shiki>> King and Katakuri
Young Linlin>> Remaining Calamity and Sweet commanders
Kaido, Captain John, Wang Zhi and Silver Axe alongside other Pirates>> Vets and Flying six and other Bm/Beast pirates

After Shiki and Primebeard are free, the others are done anyway.
 
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