Powers & Abilities The Logia Intangibility Problem and How to Fix It!

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The Logia Intangibility Problem and How to Fix it!
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The Problem
During Smoker Vs. Vergo we witnessed one of the greatest falls of a Logia user where the Logia Intangibility was exploited. Vergo was able to hit Smoker's body because ALL OF THE SMOKE was part of his own body.

The Solution
It's almost like a riddle because what happens if a Devil Fruit user becomes awakened? Key words, "The Devil Fruit will begin to affect things other than the user's own body."

Conclusion
Logia Intangibility became ineffective as a result of Armament Haki users hitting ANY PART of the Logia user's material/substance. The example we used here was Vergo hitting Smoker because all of the smoke was part of his own body. However, if Smoker was an Awakened Logia user, then it is possible his smoke would have 2 types: (1) smoke that is constituted by his own body, and (2) smoke that is constituted by things other than his own body. The result? An Armament Haki user can attempt to hit an Awakened Logia user, but it's possible that the Awakened Logia Intangibility will cause them to replace parts of their body with things that aren't part of their body. Therefore, Armament Haki users can't find the parts of material/substance that belong to the original body and what parts don't anymore.

 

[Steven]

Just do it like King Kuri

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Just do it like King Kuri

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He needs to be calm to do that. An Awakened Logia user in this context would not need to be calm. It's just an innate/automatic response.

 

[Steven]

He needs to be calm to do that. An Awakened Logia user in this context would not need to be calm. It's just an innate/automatic response.

Would be better but then it just comes down to speed if you dont have the natural weakness against the Logia user.

 

[Cruxroux]

The Problem
During Smoker Vs. Vergo we witnessed one of the greatest falls of a Logia user where the Logia Intangibility was exploited. Vergo was able to hit Smoker's body because ALL OF THE SMOKE was part of his own body.

The Solution
It's almost like a riddle because what happens if a Devil Fruit user becomes awakened? Key words, "The Devil Fruit will begin to affect things other than the user's own body."

I don't see it as a problem but poor use of their DF.

 

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I don't see it as a problem but poor use of their DF.

I see it as poor reading comprehension on your part. It has nothing to do with poor use of a Logia fruit. ALL Logia fruits work this way. Whether it was Smoker or Akainu, this still applies.

 

[Cruxroux]

I see it as poor reading comprehension on your part. It has nothing to do with poor use of a Logia fruit. ALL Logia fruits work this way. Whether it was Smoker or Akainu, this still applies.

It doesn't lmao.
Smoker and Caeser fruit are very fluid or high viscosity type of stuff. Even if they separate they would be connected given their element.

Akainu. KIZARU , AOKIJI CAN'T MAKE A ice , Magma , light wall around the enemy and still be a part of it.

Whereas Smoker and Caeser fruit can.

Magma has pretty low viscous and same goes any fruit Admirals have.

Logia users are well capable of splitting their body in half , and let Even haki attacks go through.

Smoker being part of the smoke makes entire sense lmao.
It's his poor handling of the fruit.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Rayleigh stopping Kizaru also shows that Logia users can be hit anywhere their element is expanded.
Your solution seems nice and all but the counter has already been used by none other than Alabasta Zoro, we still don't know what it exactly means but it resembles Coo.

 

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Rayleigh stopping Kizaru also shows that Logia users can be hit anywhere their element is expanded.
Your solution seems nice and all but the counter has already been used by none other than Alabasta Zoro, we still don't know what it exactly means but it resembles Coo.

Or you're just a contrarian and think you know how everything works when you don't

You think you know the counter to everything and then you get surprised when someone defies that

It is quite clear and self-explanatory how the Logia user's will benefit from an awakening.

You guys tend to think Logia Awakening is just Logia users becoming a big fire bird or a big lightning golem or some crap. I'm positive there is more to it and it involves the intangibility element that everyone has stopped paying any attention to.

 

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Or you're just a contrarian and think you know how everything works when you don't

You think you know the counter to everything and then you get surprised when someone defies that

What ?
Zoro was able to tell between rocks, leaves and swords right ? Isn't it safe to assume he can tell the difference between tangible and not ? He even demonstrated this with Pica to an extent...

 

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Think about this

If an Armament Haki user punches a piece of substance/material that belongs NOT to the Logia user's body, but instead it is a wooden log, what breaks if it gets hit?

Answer: it's the wooden log that gets broken, not the user's body. Why? Because that material/substance wasn't made by the user's body. It was made by the wooden log.

All the Armament Haki user would manage to do in this situation is find the "true body" of the wooden log.

It's not like with Pica or Trebol when someone hit their body and managed to hurt them by finding where they were. Pica and Trebol do NOT become the substance/material they make/control. Their own body is separate from it. A Logia, however, does that. The substance/material is indistinguishable from their own body. That is, until other things get mixed in with it (awakening).