So you have to deflect away rather than being unable to face the obvious.
And the gorosei being fighters or not has always been hotly debated lol.
Does it make sense at all, given the context of the flashback, that luffy doesn't defeat Saturn?
You keep moving the goalpost to not admit being wrong
First it was Luffy won't even fight Kizaru because he's not relevant enough
Then it was Kizaru won't get up from WSG
And after that it was Luffy will send flying Kizaru to Zoro
Just take your L for once