Speculations The Marines are Imu's slaves, like the White Berets in Skypeia were Enel's slaves

Will King be the King of the World?

  • Oh hell yes

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#1
For so long, I've stared at great men like Garp, and Sengoku, and wondered why they refused to stand up to the Celestial Dragons. In chapter 1061, we received our answer.

The White Berets of Skypiea were forced to serve Enel, or else Enel would destroy their lives and families from above, with blasts of lightning.

Imu is the same: Imu uses the fact that he can erase islands to control the Marines, through threat of destroying their homelands and families if they resist.

Skypiea and Enel:



Imu and Lulusia:



Skypiea is a mirror of the WG's history.

You had a people, the Lunarians, who were from the moon. They descended to the planet below to survive, the opposite of the way the Shandorians of Jaya were launched into the sky.

The Lunarians fought with the Celestial Dragons, and had their land, their Vearth (the moon, Fairy Vearth) stolen from them, as well as their technology. The Shanorians fought with the Celestial Dragons, and had their Vearth, the land of Jaya, stolen from them, as well as their technology/city.

The White Berets were forced to serve Enel once he came to rule over them as God, and oppressed their own people and the Shandorians, even though they didn't wish too.

The Marines are forced to serve Imu once Imu used the Ancient Kingdom's secrets/science to become God. If they don't Imu will use his all-powerful weapon, and obliterate them.

We see the Marine's fear of Imu's ability to destroy islands here, when Sengoku discusses God Valley in chapter 957, Ultimate:


Even if most Marines don't know what exact power the WG possesses, they know this: if you truly defy the World Government, you won't just be killed.

YOU WILL BE ERASED FROM EXISTENCE.

This is the power tactic Imu has used to control the world for so long. Imu is an even worse Enel.

In the end of the series, we'll realize that, like the White Berets, the Marines did everything they could to fight for justice, even while ruled by a tyrant. Garp wanted Luffy to join the Marines... because Garp knew the Marines needed good, kindhearted people like Luffy, in order for things to change. This is what Vegapunk is trying to accomplish: talk with the reasonable, kind people within the Marines, rather than oppose the entire organization.

This is why Koby is so important: Koby is Garp's dream for Luffy. Luffy didn't become an Admiral: instead, Luffy inspired Koby to become an Admiral. Garp's love for Luffy led to the creation of the Marine who will use kindness to change the Navy. Even though Garp couldn't make Luffy a Marine, his love for Luffy led to the Marine Garp always wanted, who Garp is training to this day. Inherited Will.




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So, after the White Beret's are brought back, the Shandorian, Wiper, becomes their leader. This shows him gaining rightful control back over his own land, while also showing him protecting other he once fought against.

I think this is setting up King, whose race is similar to the Shandorians, to literally become "King" of the Lunarians, and maybe even something greater.

Yes... the man whose Epithet is "King" may in fact be King of the whole world at the end of this series. At the least, King's people will be incredibly important to Celestial Dragon and Imu lore.

Thoughts?
 
#4
I can see where you're going with this and there's definitely some truth to it (though I think Sengoku knows more about the men upstairs than Garp since he was the Fleet Admiral) but I've always looked at it a different way

I think Garp views the Marines as the lesser of 2 (more like 3) evils

Being a Pirate does nothing and I don't think he fully agrees with Dragon's ideology

The WG/Navy may be corrupt but he can help a lot more people that way. I could be wrong though
 

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#5
I can see where you're going with this and there's definitely some truth to it (though I think Sengoku knows more about the men upstairs than Garp since he was the Fleet Admiral) but I've always looked at it a different way

I think Garp views the Marines as the lesser of 2 (more like 3) evils

Being a Pirate does nothing and I don't think he fully agrees with Dragon's ideology

The WG/Navy may be corrupt but he can help a lot more people that way. I could be wrong though
No, that's about what I believe.

Garp knows there are good pirates, like Roger and Whitebeard, but still believes that working within the law is better if he wants to help innocent people.

A Vice Admiral has a lot more power they can use to help innocent people compared to most pirates (we see this with Garp claiming Windmill Village as his territory).

The only pirates who could really hold large territory were Warlords and Yonkou.

Knowing what Imu is capable of has made me respect Garp a lot more.
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
#6
I agree.
Final Arc/Imu has always been a parallel to Skypeia/Enel IMO.
That's the arc which introduced ideas like a Tyrannical False God and Luffy being said God's Natural Enemy.
There's a reason why the World Government fear the Nika fruit so much and I believe that it will be able to counter Imu's abilities just like it countered Enel's Goro Goro no Mi.

So, after the White Beret's are brought back, the Shandorian, Wiper, becomes their leader. This shows him gaining rightful control back over his own land, while also showing him protecting other he once fought against.

I think this is setting up King, whose race is similar to the Shandorians, to literally become "King" of the Lunarians, and maybe even something greater.

Yes... the man whose Epithet is "King" may in fact be King of the whole world at the end of this series. At the least, King's people will be incredibly important to Celestial Dragon and Imu lore.
You can even see the distinct similarities in Character Design between King & Wyper.
So yeah, he might end up leading the Lunarian tribe in the future with the Seraphims.

Another option for being the Wyper of the Imu Arc is Dragon.
Both have Similar Tattoo on the Left side of his face, Leaders of the Revolutionaries who fight back against World Govt's tyranny.
I believe he will have a secret plan for killing Imu & will execute it but will ultimately fail, just like Wyper did against Enel.
And Luffy with the Nika fruit will finally beat Imu after help like he beat Enel.
 

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#7
I agree.
Final Arc/Imu has always been a parallel to Skypeia/Enel IMO.
That's the arc which introduced ideas like a Tyrannical False God and Luffy being said God's Natural Enemy.
There's a reason why the World Government fear the Nika fruit so much and I believe that it will be able to counter Imu's abilities just like it countered Enel's Goro Goro no Mi.


You can even see the distinct similarities in Character Design between King & Wyper.
So yeah, he might end up leading the Lunarian tribe in the future with the Seraphims.

Another option for being the Wyper of the Imu Arc is Dragon.
Both have Similar Tattoo on the Left side of his face, Leaders of the Revolutionaries who fight back against World Govt's tyranny.
I believe he will have a secret plan for killing Imu & will execute it but will ultimately fail, just like Wyper did against Enel.
And Luffy with the Nika fruit will finally beat Imu after help like he beat Enel.
Dragon having a secret scheme to kill Imu makes so much sense, amazing theory.

I think Imu's abilities are water-centric, and that the bubbles used in Sabaody and the resin they're made of will be important later.

Remember the theories about Gear 5 being tied to resin? If Luffy can use Gear 5 to turn Rubber into Resin, and coat himself in those bubbles, he can fight underwater.
 

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#9
No marine knows about Imu, at best the fleet admiral only and even that sounds sketchy.
It doesn't matter if they know about Imu.

What matters is that they know that whoever rules the World Government, is able to erase entire islands.

As long as the Marines know the WG can erase their homes and families instantly, they can't resist the Celestial Dragons.
 
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