General & Others The marines dont make sense

Water1415

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They just hate pirates for the mere fact they are pirates

Look at Koby and Luffy

Koby admires Luffy, Luffy saved his life after all in fact Koby is always glazing Luffy, but last chapter now Koby wants to oppose Luffy's dream?

If he's such a good guy who you look up to, why do you want to arrest him?

Why is being pirate king even illegal from what we know it seems being Pirate King means you save the world in the process

Another character that's weird is Garp, his sons are pirates and he knows they are good people but yet he sits by Ace and let's the marines try to execute him despite knowing Ace isn't a criminal nor a bad guy, he is just a pirate.

Sometimes the marines will accept this like Fujitora, he notices Luffy is a good guy who saves a village so he let's him escape while posturing like he's going to arrest him

All in all, the marines don't really have a good reason to oppose pirates especially when they let the celestial dragons commit crimes against innocent people, they are an organization in one piece that doesn't make any sense
 
SakazOuki

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Water1415 said:
They just hate pirates for the mere fact they are pirates

Look at Koby and Luffy

Koby admires Luffy, Luffy saved his life after all in fact Koby is always glazing Luffy, but last chapter now Koby wants to oppose Luffy's dream?

If he's such a good guy who you look up to, why do you want to arrest him?

Why is being pirate king even illegal from what we know it seems being Pirate King means you save the world in the process

Another character that's weird is Garp, his sons are pirates and he knows they are good people but yet he sits by Ace and let's the marines try to execute him despite knowing Ace isn't a criminal nor a bad guy, he is just a pirate.

Sometimes the marines will accept this like Fujitora, he notices Luffy is a good guy who saves a village so he let's him escape while posturing like he's going to arrest him

All in all, the marines don't really have a good reason to oppose pirates especially when they let the celestial dragons commit crimes against innocent people, they are an organization in one piece that doesn't make any sense
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Because 99.9% of pirates are scum who rape pillage and murder
 
Water1415

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SakazOuki said:
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They do put them down regularly, how is Impel Down among other prisons filled to the brim with pirate scum otherwise
Ace is the son of the man who inspired the worst pirate era in history, his death sent a message
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In dressrosa, Fujitora didn't put Doflamingo down after realizing he's a celestial dragon

In egghead, people are saying Kizaru being absent for the last part of the arc is OK because he killed his friend, but why did he have to kill his friend? Why is he even protecting the gorosei who view humans as insects

Pirates commit crime but the marines commit a lot of crime as well so why are the marines the good guys again?
 
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Pirates are horrible lol

These mfs were slapping innocent girls and threatening to mass murder the townsfolk too
And I don't doubt they would be raping some of the people if this wasn't a Shonen and Oda could show that.
So the Marines hating pirates makes sense, because most pirates are evil. It just so happens that there are exceptions like Luffy and his crew.
 
SakazOuki

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Water1415 said:
In dressrosa, Fujitora didn't put Doflamingo down after realizing he's a celestial dragon

In egghead, people are saying Kizaru being absent for the last part of the arc is OK because he killed his friend, but why did he have to kill his friend? Why is he even protecting the gorosei who view humans as insects

Pirates commit crime but the marines commit a lot of crime as well so why are the marines the good guys again?
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When you put the highest ranking marines in the picture it is a different story, even someone like Garp protected the CDs on their human hunting trip at some point. Your average marine is a decent man who wants to protect civilians from outlaws, but like the case in the real world, the higher ranking you are in the military the more confidential matters you are exposed to, and suddenly you see how swindled the whole system is. On one hand, you have the WG’s tyranny, and on the other pirate scum threatening the daily livelihood of ordinary citizens.

High ranking personnel are forced to make necessary sacrifices for the public good, depending on their personality anyway
Akainu hates piracy more than anything, so he has no issue dirtying his hands
Kizaru is not opinionated and just follows orders regardless of how evil they are, though at heart he’s a kind man
Ryokugyu sees the world as is, CDs rule the world so everyone else gets killed if it doesn’t align with the WG’s interest
Fujitora understands the value of his position and is trying to make a change systematically step by step, he can’t just casually defy the WG creating chaos, as chaos is the last thing in the ordinary citizen’s interest

Also, these characters do not know there is a kid with godly plot armor who will eventually turn the world upside down reducing pirate scum and government officials alike into his twerkers
Without that knowledge all you can do is uphold the law to protect ordinary citizens, and ignore as much as you can the WG’s corruption
 
Water1415

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Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier said:
Pirates are horrible lol

These mfs were slapping innocent girls and threatening to mass murder the townsfolk too
And I don't doubt they would be raping some of the people if this wasn't a Shonen and Oda could show that.
So the Marines hating pirates makes sense, because most pirates are evil. It just so happens that there are exceptions like Luffy and his crew.
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Why do they arrest pirates but not celestial dragons who rape women like Boa Hancock and her sisters
 
Water1415

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SakazOuki said:
When you put the highest ranking marines in the picture it is a different story, even someone like Garp protected the CDs on their human hunting trip at some point. Your average marine is a decent man who wants to protect civilians from outlaws, but like the case in the real world, the higher ranking you are in the military the more confidential matters you are exposed to, and suddenly you see how swindled the whole system is. On one hand, you have the WG’s tyranny, and on the other pirate scum threatening the daily livelihood of ordinary citizens.

High ranking personnel are forced to make necessary sacrifices for the public good, depending on their personality anyway
Akainu hates piracy more than anything, so he has no issue dirtying his hands
Kizaru is not opinionated and just follows orders regardless of how evil they are, though at heart he’s a kind man
Ryokugyu sees the world as is, CDs rule the world so everyone else gets killed if it doesn’t align with the WG’s interest
Fujitora understands the value of his position and is trying to make a change systematically step by step, he can’t just casually defy the WG creating chaos, as chaos is the last thing in the ordinary citizen’s interest

Also, these characters do not know there is a kid with godly plot armor who will eventually turn the world upside down reducing pirate scum and government officials alike into his twerkers
Without that knowledge all you can do is uphold the law to protect ordinary citizens, and ignore as much as you can the WG’s corruption
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Very nicely put
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He is very handsome good job
 
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Water1415 said:
Very nicely put
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He is very handsome good job
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This is the guy https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Tangerine
But in all seriousness, that's kind of the point lol. They're protecting the CDs who are just as bad, if not even worse than, the pirates. Perhaps they're just afraid to challenge the CDs and don't want to try and overthrow them or something? Who knows. But then, that's where the Rev Army comes into play.
 
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No, it makes sense. You can consider pirates as.. pirates but also bandits or terrorists. They infringe on the world government benefits and that is why they must be stopped. This of course is justice from the world government point of view yet it has been shown multiple times that the common pirates are scum and noble ones like Luffy, Shanks, WB, Roger and so on (if they actually can really be labeled as "noble" pirates, nobles as opposed to vicious one like Kidd or BB which are extremes) yet when you become a great pirate (aka a great power, a yonko in other words) then you are already somewhat of a contender to the WG, an enemy nation, and despite good or evil you are a great threat for them at that point. Pirate king, you save the world from your perspective but from WG perspective (so Im and the elders under him) you destroy their whole system of power so the pirate king is an existential threat they must eliminate at all costs (just like what they tried and did with Vegapunk revealing top secret infos).

We can make a real world example: the USA is the WG and the NATO are all the nations under USA rule. Pirates are those who don't come under their rule so a good portion of south America and Asia. China and Russia are the greatest threats because they are big and clearly want to change the current world system and so they don't want them to grow further otherwise their world dominion would be infringed (talking about China of course). Then there are the double standards: nations on their side are in the right while nations against it are always in fault (see what is happening in middle east), Vagapunk can even be compared to Julian Assange (even if luckily Assange was spared, he even avoided a life time sentence).

And before somebody starts something political this is how the world spins yet I'm glad I live in the west because here I can say what I said above, I can criticize Biden, Trump and all the other sharks who claim to be statists yet if I tried this while under Putin or Xi everybody knows how it would end, and that is a critical difference. Yet if I lived in Palestine I think that maybe my views would still change..
 
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Just a member said:
We can make a real world example: the USA is the WG and the NATO are all the nations under USA rule. Pirates are those who don't come under their rule so a good portion of south America and Asia. China and Russia are the greatest threats because they are big and clearly want to change the current world system and so they don't want them to grow further otherwise their world dominion would be infringed (talking about China of course). Then there are the double standards: nations on their side are in the right while nations against it are always in fault (see what is happening in middle east), Vagapunk can even be compared to Julian Assange (even if luckily Assange was spared, he even avoided a life time sentence).

And before somebody starts something political this is how the world spins yet I'm glad I live in the west because here I can say what I said above, I am a racist who supports the kkk and isis. Trump and all the other sharks who claim to be statists yet if I tried this while under Putin or Xi everybody knows how it would end, and that is a critical difference. Yet if I lived in Palestine I think that maybe my views would still change..
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Dam we have a radical over here
 
Sugoi

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V Runcandel said:
Marines is the USA of one piece world.
Lol trying to be the super cop but The real evil ones (World government) who sowed the seeds in the first place
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The government is not evil and is not responsible for criminals, anyone who lives in USA are living a way better life than those in poverty criminal infested countries, don't let one piece rot your brain...
 
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