General & Others This chapter proves that neither Teach nor the admirals are conquerors

[Monkey D Theories]

A key trait of a conqueror is that they are headstrong. They'd rather fight to the death than give up. This is a trait that you can find in all confirmed conqueror's haki users.

While Kid has never shown conqueror's haki on panel, this chapter shows exactly why he has been confirmed as a conqueror, while Teach and the admirals haven't, and likely never will be.

Almost every time Shanks makes a move, most characters go out of their way not to fight him. Just look at Marineford or ryokugyu at the end of wano. Yet Kid is up against worse odds than MF Teach or any admiral, and he's still going in to face Shanks, the RHP, and even the giant pirates.

While some people might view this as idiocy, and honestly it kinda is, it is a fundamental trait of a conqueror that characters like Teach and the admirals simply don't have.

 

[115673]

What about Kaido then? He couldn't get past Shanks either.

He is a confirmed Conquerer.

 

[Franosuke]

I'd be damn surprised if Akainu didn't have it.

I don't think Teach has it though.

 

[Welkin]

I'd be damn surprised if Akainu didn't have it.

I don't think Teach has it though.

The rules in the post don’t apply to Akainu anyway

Who has he ever run from?

He didn’t run from the World’s Strongest Man, he didn’t run from 16 commanders

Regardless of the odds he fights everyone head on

 

[Doggo]

Oden didn't fight Kaido to the death.
WB didn't fight Kaido to the death after hearing about Oden's death.
Kaido of the 100 hostages took his chance to save his own life and KO'ed a distracted Oden.
Doffy was a manipulator who used others to do his dirty work. Walked away from Aokiji in PH.

Stop creating these headcanons.

 

[HA001]

Oden didn't fight Kaido to the death.
WB didn't fight Kaido to the death after hearing about Oden's death.
Kaido of the 100 hostages took his chance to save his own life and KO'ed a distracted Oden.
Doffy was a manipulator who used others to do his dirty work. Walked away from Aokiji in PH.

Stop creating these headcanons.

The sanji cope brigade come running

 

[zzShinichi]

I mean if there's no choice, backed up to the wall, all Admirals will fight to the death. In MF, or in GB's case, there was no need to fight Shanks just the further the casualties since Shanks was not actively looking for a fight with them.
But yeah still doubt most Admirals have COC tho. If anything only these have it
- Garp: 100% undoubtedly, his whole fighting style is about haki.
- Sengoku: confirmed.
- Akainu: 90%, supposedly Luffy's Admiral fight, and Oda loves COC clashes. He fits the trait of the Conqueros.
- Coby: 50% supposedly Luffy's rival in the Navy.
- Aokiji: 50%, because he stood up against Akainu.

 

[Patryipe]

The sanji cope brigade come running

I thought the same thing.

Still, he's right though.

 

[Fujishiro]

Kaido of the 100 hostages took his chance to save his own life and KO'ed a distracted Oden.

We still going on lying about this?

 

[Formerly Seth]

What about Kaido then? He couldn't get past Shanks either.

He is a confirmed Conquerer.

One of the fastest KO's I saw on D. Theories thread.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

While I think Admirals could all have Conquerors, they don’t need to. They more then compensate with their busted fruits.

All Kid has going for him is CoC (that he’s never shown). Sure if you want points for not backing down as a Conqueror I get it, but it does not make Teach or Admirals look worse in comparison lmfao.

 

[Julius]

Oden didn't fight Kaido to the death.
WB didn't fight Kaido to the death after hearing about Oden's death.
Kaido of the 100 hostages took his chance to save his own life and KO'ed a distracted Oden.
Doffy was a manipulator who used others to do his dirty work. Walked away from Aokiji in PH.

Stop creating these headcanons.

It's crazy these dudes think that makes any sense

Bluds think Conqueror's haki users need all to be completely dumb meatheads who can't think wisely or make wise decisions or something

Shanks has arguably the biggest amount of reasonable and very wise speeches in the manga, and yet Oda doesn't sleeps in the fact he has a strong Haki.

When they are pursuing their dreams and ambitions, then yeah, you could say they will never back down, but that doesn't mean they don't have anything else valuable to care about in their lives that can't eventually force them to choose different routes and approaches depending the situation. Being a Conqueror is much more about strong and imposing character traits than merely pursuing a dream, otherwise everyone who has a dream would eventually get Conqueror's

 

[hedera__helix]

Akainu is probably a conqueror

but yeah losers like BB/Greenbull/Law/Sanji are the exact opposite of conquerors

 

[Hiragaro]

Luffy run away multiple times and he is a conqueror

 

[IsaziSempi]

Conquers haki has nothing to do with being headstrong. Many rulers are headstrong it's something that attracts leadership.

Conquers Haki revolves around bending others to your will or in other words inspiring others by your unyeilding convictions. We've seen COC users tell their crews to retreat. We've even seen COC users retreat themselves.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Hold up:
Boa ran away from the world government and have not fought against them since

Whitebeard ran away from the navy in the flashback

Roger avoided fighting Big Mom in the past and instead snuck through her land

Doffy was terrified of the possibility of fighting Kaido

Kid is overconfident and stupid. That’s not a conqueror thing that’s a character flaw

 

[sanjikun]

I think you're confusing being reckless with being a CoC user.

CoC user is mainly about ambition/will.

 

[BlackLegFring]

Conqueror’s Haki still has only 1 requirement: Oda’s whim.

There’s still no consistency with it besides some offspring getting it from a parent.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Since we need to tie this into Sanji bashing, I have a good argument for this.

There is one element that are present in all Conquerors, a clear & firm goal(s). Unfortunately not all of their characters got explored so we don't know the goal/dream of some of them.

Sanji's goals is something fantasy & myth, unlike One Piece who got confirmed by Whitebeard, no one so far talk about All Blue. This is part of why in Baratie, he said to just abandon someone's/a dream. Because Sanji's dream itself may just an illusion, so it's normal if he drops it and change to something else.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

What about Kaido then? He couldn't get past Shanks either.

He is a confirmed Conquerer.

Yeah, but Kaido actually fought Shanks. And we know he fought Shanks because of that panel from chapter 1001.

Ryokugyu was too scared to fight Shanks. So was Teach.