Questions & Mysteries Till now I can't understand Kizaru and Ben Beckman's interaction

[Lightbolt]

Ben threatens Kizaru‚ Kizaru who can escape light speed just gives up‚ then Kizaru seemed like he forgot Ben was having a gun pointed at him and attacked law's submarine anyway‚ to only have Ben do nothing to stop him at all.

I never understood this interaction. That makes no sense. None of these points do

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Kizaru is a troll, you never know when he's serious. Except that time with Rayleigh where you could see he was embarrassed.

 

[Lightbolt]

Kizaru is a troll, you never know when he's serious. Except that time with Rayleigh where you could see he was embarrassed.

Fair point‚ but how is Ben who had a gun pointed at Kizaru just watching Kizaru attack law's submarine after threatening him not to make a move explained ?

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Benn and Kizaru's interaction in Marineford be like:

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Fair point‚ but how is Ben who had a gun pointed at Kizaru just watching Kizaru attack law's submarine after threatening him not to make a move explained ?

2 options. Either Ben already moved to join Shanks and the others or Kizaru actually didn't give a fuck.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Former friends they love each :kizabat:

 

[stealthblack]

people trolled by kizaru 10 years later after that scene rofl

 

[Finalbeta]

I think he considered him like a very tough opponent and would have rather preferred not to match him if that was avoidable but overall I still believe Kizaru would win 10/10 fights against the man. Unless Oda goes mad with scaling.

 

[Tigapedang]

Yeah...it was badly written, but from my point of view whitebeard pirates is ordered to protect luffy, at the moment kizaru pointing out the beam, luffy still hasnt reach law ship,

Beckman purpose here is to stall kizaru so luffy will arrive at law ship safely, if kizaru kill luffy while still on wbp sight the war wont stop....


Just like kuma and zoro, when zoro offer kuma to take his head, kuma still touch luffy, but kuma said to trust him so zoro wont attack

 

[Lukegranders]

The excuse for admiral fanboys is Kizaru is always trolling when it’s convenient for them.

In the manga Ben beckman pointed the gun and Kizaru only went after luffy when Ben beckman went away because luffy was safe underwater that’s why Ben beckman says “ he is still going?”

If Kizaru could deal with Ben beckman he would but he clearly couldn’t. People who really think Oda would troll someone like Ben beckman need to get a brain

 

[spawn]

Pretty much, Shanks and his crew took the opportunity created by Koby and used it to save Luffy.

Beckman never planned on attacking Kizaru, but only planned on delaying Kizaru. You can see this because once Kizaru decides to ignore the threat and attack the submarine anyways, Beckman doesn't do anything to Kizaru.

In fact, all the Red Hair Pirates ignored the actions of the Navy after they delayed them long enough. Neither Roux nor Shanks tried stopping Aokiji when he did the Ice Age. They knew they created a long enough delay which would allow Luffy to escape

Funnily, this entire Beckman scene contradicts what Shanks said in Chapter 1. Perhaps opposing philosophies?

Spoiler

Kizaru acknowledged the threat initially and in the next chapter decided to ignore it. That's all there is to it.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Pretty much, Shanks and his crew took the opportunity created by Koby and used it to save Luffy.

Beckman never planned on attacking Kizaru, but only planned on delaying Kizaru. You can see this because once Kizaru decides to ignore the threat and attack the submarine anyways, Beckman doesn't do anything to Kizaru.

In fact, all the Red Hair Pirates ignored the actions of the Navy after they delayed them long enough. Neither Roux nor Shanks tried stopping Aokiji when he did the Ice Age. They knew they created a long enough delay which would allow Luffy to escape

Funnily, this entire Beckman scene contradicts what Shanks said in Chapter 1. Perhaps opposing philosophies?

Spoiler

Kizaru acknowledged the threat initially and in the next chapter decided to ignore it. That's all there is to it.

Iirc he says something more like "it's dangerous to point guns", the early translations are pretty bad

 

[Kromage911]

Imagine Oda states that Kizaru and Benn Beckman were rivals back in the day and have a history, lol. That would be the darkest day for Admiral fans.

 

[Finalbeta]

Imagine Oda states that Kizaru and Benn Beckman were rivals back in the day and have a history, lol. That would be the darkest day for Admiral fans.

Eventually Shanks was the strongest yonko at the time, or Kaido's par and eventually Benn is to Shanks what Zoro is to Luffy.

Since I'm both a Zoro and Admiral fan you get what I mean practically, albeit jokes aside I still legit think Zoro = Luffy general portrayal speaking regardless of my taste for characters. :cheers:

In all honesty I think it's more likely that:

Kizaru >~ Shanks > Benn

But funnily, Kizaru would perhaps still require high+ difficulty to take Benn out.

 

[vikas]

well they started moving and attacking Law's submarine anyway.

 

[Lightbolt]

well they started moving and attacking Law's submarine anyway.

That is the whole point of this thread and why Ben just watched lol

 

[Seraphoenix]

It’s obvious that Kizaru only attacked after Beckmann left the area. That’s why he is surprised that he continued to attack. Also can’t use that nonsense that Kizaru was trolling. Why troll when your target is leaving? It’s always trolling when he fails. He could get killed on panel and fanboys will say he was trolling.

the vivre card even says something to the effect of “even a marine admiral knows the threat of Ben Beckmann”

 

[silverfire]

people trolled by kizaru 10 years later after that scene rofl

This is the real answer. Kizaru broke the 4th wall to troll the fanbase.

 

[Koro]

I think its simple. Ben joined shanks then kizaru start attack law submarine.

Dont point a gun when you are just a shitty weakling character. We will show you how to kill somebody with gun. Then we will show you how to stop a top tier level with a gun, but different threat level. Like vivre card, right...

 

[Croci]

They are brothers