Anime & Manga Too much threads about CoC "misconceptions"

#4
Dont see what is there to be bitter about

In the end Sanji is gonna fight same enemies Zoro and Luffy will. And if Sanji can beat an admiral without CoC, hey thats a massive W for Sanji
I agree that there's nothing to be bitter about, but it's obvious that those CoC threads made by Sanji fans recently heavily implies it...

Same enemies as Luffy is too much stretch since Luffy is a tier above him... But I agree that it would be good for Sanji to beat admirals without CoC...

People are enjoying the variety of styles in the SHs yet we see some people craving for Sanji for something he doesn't need... Double standards...
 

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#5
I agree that there's nothing to be bitter about, but it's obvious that those CoC threads made by Sanji fans recently heavily implies it...

Same enemies as Luffy is too much stretch since Luffy is a tier above him... But I agree that it would be good for Sanji to beat admirals without CoC...

People are enjoying the variety of styles in the SHs yet we see some people craving for Sanji for something he doesn't need... Double standards...
Sanji can and cannot unlock and it totally depends on Oda

I just think it is funny that a guy that fights with his legs only can defeat same enemies a guy with 3 high grade swords and no restrictions on fighting or a guy with a rubber DF, CoC and so on

Not like Sanji can get cursed shoes or smthing to take his Haki to next level
 
#7
Sanji can and cannot unlock and it totally depends on Oda

I just think it is funny that a guy that fights with his legs only can defeat same enemies a guy with 3 high grade swords and no restrictions on fighting or a guy with a rubber DF, CoC and so on

Not like Sanji can get cursed shoes or smthing to take his Haki to next level
+His daddy science... Keep in mind that sanji is average at best without germa science
 
#8
I mean at the end of the day the Straw Hats only will be as strong as Oda needs them to be to defeat the enemies he plans for them. So Sanji will be as strong as he needs to be to defeat YC2's and (most likely) whoever is the 3rd-strongest admiral. I don't really see any YC2's having CoC and I highly doubt that every single admiral has it. But if Oda thinks he will need it to defeat the enemies Oda has in store for him then he will get it. Do I think it's likely? Not really, but that's just how it works.

It's the same thing for Luffy and Zoro. Luffy will be as strong as Oda thinks he needs to be to defeat Yonkous and probably Akainu and possibly someone unknown like Imu. Zoro will be as strong as he needs to be to defeat YC1's, probably whoever the 2nd-strongest admiral is, and Mihawk on top of that. So them having access to ACoC makes sense if they are having to fight those kinds of enemies, especially since we've already seen 1 YC1 who has CoC in Katakuri.

I think a lot of people seem to operate under the assumption that Oda always has the M3 gaps in mind when writing in fights and power-ups. However, I don't think that's the case. Oda likely writes with the whole series in mind, and probably doesn't care if the gaps look consistent. That's why sometimes it looks like Sanji is falling way behind Luffy and Zoro, sometimes it looks like Luffy is light years ahead of Zoro and Sanji, sometimes all three of them seem pretty close, etc.
 
#9
Sanji can and cannot unlock and it totally depends on Oda

I just think it is funny that a guy that fights with his legs only can defeat same enemies a guy with 3 high grade swords and no restrictions on fighting or a guy with a rubber DF, CoC and so on

Not like Sanji can get cursed shoes or smthing to take his Haki to next level
He doesn't have cursed shoes but thanks to his daddy Judge he's able to grow stronger
 

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#11
And how good would Zoro be without 3 high tiers swords? just some regular pirate swords like the ones Mihawk broke

Or how strong would Luffy be without Gomu Gomu?
Zoro with 3 shitty swors still can defeat some of the worlds strongest combatants.
Sanji would be stuck at around his punk hazard level without judge.
 
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#12
Zoro with 3 shitty swors still ca dsfeat some of the worlds strongest combatants
Zoro for a reason has 3 high tier swords. If swords werent that important there wouldnt be an emphasis on them.

Mihawk said that CoA makes any blade the best, but seeing at how swords are potrayed i guess that is either false or CoA needs to be insane
 

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#13
Zoro for a reason has 3 high tier swords. If swords werent that important there wouldnt be an emphasis on them.

Mihawk said that CoA makes any blade the best, but seeing at how swords are potrayed i guess that is either false or CoA needs to be insane
Zoro is a maste of coa any shitty blade is deadly in his hands thats how wano started with him cutting a dude plus the building behind him with a tiny knife.
 
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#14
Zoro is a maste of coa any shitty blade is deadly in his hands thats gow wano started with him cutting a dude plus the building behind him with a tiny knife.
And we all know despite of that Zoro still went Enma route bcs obviously swords are powerups amd they enhance swordsman power

If that wasnt the case theb all swordsman would use basic swords

Zoro - has named swords
Roger, Shanks, Mihawk, Cavendish even Law have high tiers swords
 
#15
And how good would Zoro be without 3 high tiers swords? just some regular pirate swords like the ones Mihawk broke

Or how strong would Luffy be without Gomu Gomu?
Without high grade swords and Df both of them still got prominent haki, and not to mention ability that only handful of very strongest people possess "adv coc"..

Take away germa power from sanji and you got very definition of mediocre..
 
#17
Zoro for a reason has 3 high tier swords. If swords werent that important there wouldnt be an emphasis on them.
You forget that meito is not for the weak.. it was stated multiple times in the story by now and same can't be said with germa science, even weakling can be much stronger with it
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Because Zoro and Luffy totally have ACoC from the start of story, right?
Nope, i never say that, they start from zero and they're working hard with their own strength to get this far.
 

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#18
You forget that meito is not for the weak.. it was stated multiple times in the story by now and same can't be said with germa science, even weakling can be much stronger with it
Cursed sword stuff have been rebuked last Zoro chapter.

And Sanji didnt have genetics until second half of Wano

Sanji was literally basic as one can be until then, he is just strong to be able to keep up with Zoro and Luffy despite self imposed Drawbacks
 

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#19
And we all know despite of that Zoro still went Enma route bcs obviously swords are powerups amd they enhance swordsman power

If that wasnt the case theb all swordsman would use basic swords

Zoro - has named swords
Roger, Shanks, Mihawk, Cavendish even Law have high tiers swords
according to king enma was holding zoro back but ok
 
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