Top 5 Strongest Living Warriors in Kingdom as of the Han Campaign

#21
In pure 1 vs 1 I can see the arguement for Kyoukai making the list, since she's essencially the fastest character in the series. Sure, her stamina is bad, but it doesn't matter as long as she can blitz her opponent in time. On Shukai Plains she did surprisingly well against Houken.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#23
In pure 1 vs 1 I can see the arguement for Kyoukai making the list, since she's essencially the fastest character in the series. Sure, her stamina is bad, but it doesn't matter as long as she can blitz her opponent in time. On Shukai Plains she did surprisingly well against Houken.
She is complete bullshit, she is top 1 of all time with her stupid dance.

But mounted on horseback she is nerfed to the rough level of guys like Aisen and Akakin.
 
#27
I think the top 5 is fairly clear atm with the possible Kouen exception (moubu, sbs, manu, Renpa, gaimou), but then again looking at the current arc it makes me more confident than Yan are going to have some top tier martial mountain tribesman.
 
#28
Based on feats? Combination of these 11 is up for debate due to various reasons:

ManU
Moubu
Renpa
Bananji
Gaimou
Shibashou
Yotanwa
Kashibou
Tou
Shouheikun
Kouen

They all vary in raw talent and weight dependent on the person. Can make arguments for any of them to be the top dog tbh.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#29
Based on feats? Combination of these 11 is up for debate due to various reasons:

ManU
Moubu
Renpa
Bananji
Gaimou
Shibashou
Yotanwa
Kashibou
Tou
Shouheikun
Kouen

They all vary in raw talent and weight dependent on the person. Can make arguments for any of them to be the top dog tbh.
Kaishibou and Banana have like 0 claims to be the top dogs

they aren’t the leaders of their armies and thus have less weight and portrayal
 
#30
Kaishibou and Banana have like 0 claims to be the top dogs

they aren’t the leaders of their armies and thus have less weight and portrayal
Kashibou's weight:
- Renpa's right hand man, huge amount of Tou's weight comes from having been Ouki's RHM
- Leader of the Heavenly Kings, wills of Rinko + Genpo
- Normal weight of a general
- Personal ambition, akin to how Rinko had his own
- More than likely has led massive armies, when Renpa was blocking the Qin during the two years pre-Chouhei
- Lord knows since when he's started fighting alongside Renpa, since he became his right hand man and the leader even over the OG Genpo who taught Renpa.

Not sure since when being the leader of your army gave you better weight and portrayal than someone who isn't.

Kashibou's portrayal:
Destructive power on par with Renpa's.

Physically on par:

Martial prowess brought up with Renpa's directly by an individual who knows about the two.

Even in the most recent appearance, Kashibou is exhibiting same feats as Renpa, except Renpa gets a bigger panel while Kashibou a smaller one.

The argument would just be Renpa has declined in martial prowess, while Kashibou being a decade+ removed from Sanyou has kept growing stronger under Renpa's tutelage. Seeing as his martial prowess even when they were active in Kashibou's much younger days from which CGR knows him from... was on par with Renpa's.

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Even though there's no point in discussing Bananji with me bro since nothing new since Shukai has been added, and I've already every portrayal for him, which some choose to ignore or just not consider importance. But for the weight.

Bananji's weight:
- He's shown to care about Zhao as much as Riboku.
- He's fought for the protection of the Zhao nation for decades in a region considered more brutal than the plains for decades.
- The weight from the people of Ganmon and the Xiongnu he's killed
- He does have his own army.
- He also cares about Riboku and takes pride in him, very much akin to Tou - Ouki.. so additional weight there.

The argument would simply rely on his raw prowess when going all out + weight.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#31
Not sure since when being the leader of your army gave you better weight and portrayal than someone who isn't.
it was always the case

When you have a martially oriented GG, no other general under him is stronger than him

only exception maybe is for current Shin when he goes beyond MC power plus ultra bullshit, and I don’t even know if he can really beat Tou, but it’s not impossible I think

Outside of that it’s always the case

Also about weight : Ouki commanded and lost hundreds of thousands comrades

Having this responsibility and having all those lives upon his shoulders give yiu



Kaishibou or Banana wont ever beat in a 1 vs 1 clash a martially oriented GG

Never, they dont have the feats not the portrayal

YTW or Duke Hyou would beat them down every single time


Renpa's right hand man, huge amount of Tou's weight comes from having been Ouki's RHM
And the great difference is :

Kaishibou never became a GG, never became the GG of his army, never had his GG dying for him to replace him etc

Tou was written to be an anomaly especially because he was written to take Ouki’s place from the beginning

If he was written from the start as only Ouki RH he wouldn’t have been that strong


Leader of the Heavenly Kings, wills of Rinko + Genpo
- Normal weight of a general
- Personal ambition, akin to how Rinko had his own
- More than likely has led massive armies, when Renpa was blocking the Qin during the two years pre-Chouhei
- Lord knows since when he's started fighting alongside Renpa, since he became his right hand man and the leader even over the OG Genpo who taught Renpa.
I never said he didn’t have weight

just that he likely has less than his GG and his fellow great GG enemies

The man has no claim at all at being put in the discussion for the strongest


Bananji's weight:
- He's shown to care about Zhao as much as Riboku.
- He's fought for the protection of the Zhao nation for decades in a region considered more brutal than the plains for decades.
- The weight from the people of Ganmon and the Xiongnu he's killed
- He does have his own army.
- He also cares about Riboku and takes pride in him, very much akin to Tou - Ouki.. so additional weight there.

The argument would simply rely on his raw prowess when going all out + weight.
Sale argument for Banana

the man is strong
Like really strong

But I don’t think he can beat any top tier fighters in the verse in pure 1 vs 1
 
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