Controversial Understanding Oda's strongest titles

#21
lol no its not,,,

he went after krieg cause krieg woke him up during naptime.....

& no this isnt another parallel
He said he hunts pirates for fun to pass time. He moved all his way from Grand Line to East Blue in his little boat just to have fun scaring the shit out of Krieg.

And yes that's the purpose of Shichibukai and Yonko system. To help Marines/WG to take care of pirates because of the insane raise of pirates after Roger died telling them about the One Piece. That's why there is no Shichibukai or Yonko before that.

And now that they have Seraphim both systems are no longer required. That's why Shichibukai were abolished and that's why they are picking fights with Yonko now.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#22
He said he hunts pirates for fun to pass time. He moved all his way from Grand Line to East Blue in his little boat just to have fun scaring the shit out of Krieg.

And yes that's the purpose of Shichibukai and Yonko system. To help Marines/WG to take care of pirates because of the insane raise of pirates after Roger died telling them about the One Piece. That's why there is no Shichibukai or Yonko before that.

And now that they have Seraphim both systems are no longer required. That's why Shichibukai were abolished and that's why they are picking fights with Yonko now.
literally states he was awoken from his nap thats why he chased krieg down not for fun cause his baby naptime was interrupted....

& no its not lol the Yonko are their own force they arent a system they are powerhosues with their own force strong enough to go to war with the Marines and the WG created the shichibukai to help combat against them alongside the Marines/Admirals to keep the peace at bay, it's why no single marine/cp member can casually antagonize or go after a core member of a Yonkos crew...

we also literally have a flashback of Roger sneaking into Totland to take a pnoeglyph rubbing from Big Mom....

no, we have kaku literally telling Lucci he is not allowed to fight Luffy and needs to contact WG first.... & no Yonko has even been touched by an admiral and you think the WG is just casually going out and picking fights with the Yonkos lol

ffs read the manga or watch the anime
 
#23
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. He used to have insane duels that even Whitebeard praised it with Shanks. It is pretty much implied.
When both of them were younger.. Everybody doesn't have the same progression rate, while Shanks was tackling larger fish to become stronger and until it we know how Shanks took down Loki. Shanks has legit peak top tier feats.

Meanwhile Hawkeye has stagnated who became bored and isnt actively going after stronger people. Such as because he was bored, chase after Don kreig and then pack his bags because the marines didn't fear him enough.
That why Oda has done him dirty and if we don't know half the opponents he face and him not even face vista before marineford. It shows his title doesn't mean much .

Also imu exist
 
#24
literally states he was awoken from his nap thats why he chased krieg down not for fun cause his baby naptime was interrupted....
Panel please

& no its not lol the Yonko are their own force they arent a system they are powerhosues with their own force strong enough to go to war with the Marines and the WG created the shichibukai to help combat against them alongside the Marines/Admirals to keep the peace at bay, it's why no single marine/cp member can casually antagonize or go after a core member of a Yonkos crew...
They used to go after WB and Roger. As you said they need permission to go after WB after Roger's death. So yeah they are a system. WG leaves them alone since they help to reduce pirate "population" by crushing them. And Shichibukai does just the same while still helping them to fight Yonko when necessary, probably Marienford war was the only time they needed, all of them at once. Marineford was clear that no power opposes to WG. WB knew that and was willing to die just to save his sons. And WG knows that 2 Yonko combines could potentially put their power in check.
 
#25
When both of them were younger.. Everybody doesn't have the same progression rate, while Shanks was tackling larger fish to become stronger and until it we know how Shanks took down Loki. Shanks has legit peak top tier feats.

Meanwhile Hawkeye has stagnated who became bored and isnt actively going after stronger people. Such as because he was bored, chase after Don kreig and then pack his bags because the marines didn't fear him enough.
That why Oda has done him dirty and if we don't know half the opponents he face and him not even face vista before marineford. It shows his title doesn't mean much .

Also imu exist
Dude calm down. What feats Shanks has? He only showed that haki bullshit yall hype so much but means nothing. Coby did similar against Pizarro and he just unleashed his own CoC.

Mihawk states Shanks being weaker than he should be by having one less arm. There is no way he could possibly be stronger. Otherwise Mihawk wouldn't be searching for a new rival.
 
#26
Dude calm down. What feats Shanks has? He only showed that haki bullshit yall hype so much but means nothing. Coby did similar against Pizarro and he just unleashed his own CoC.

Mihawk states Shanks being weaker than he should be by having one less arm. There is no way he could possibly be stronger. Otherwise Mihawk wouldn't be searching for a new rival.
Taking down Loki is one of Shanks feats.
Also Hawkeye can be wrong and when oda stated Shanks didn't lose any power by losing his arm.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#28
When both of them were younger.. Everybody doesn't have the same progression rate, while Shanks was tackling larger fish to become stronger and until it we know how Shanks took down Loki. Shanks has legit peak top tier feats.

Meanwhile Hawkeye has stagnated who became bored and isnt actively going after stronger people. Such as because he was bored, chase after Don kreig and then pack his bags because the marines didn't fear him enough.
That why Oda has done him dirty and if we don't know half the opponents he face and him not even face vista before marineford. It shows his title doesn't mean much .

Also imu exist
????
Mihawk has only ever stated to be stronger than CURRENT shanks
Not young shanks
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#29
Panel please


They used to go after WB and Roger. As you said they need permission to go after WB after Roger's death. So yeah they are a system. WG leaves them alone since they help to reduce pirate "population" by crushing them. And Shichibukai does just the same while still helping them to fight Yonko when necessary, probably Marienford war was the only time they needed, all of them at once. Marineford was clear that no power opposes to WG. WB knew that and was willing to die just to save his sons. And WG knows that 2 Yonko combines could potentially put their power in check.
dont have time to search for a panel for you.

"Garp" would go after pirates and thats Garp alone cause he does whatever the fuck he wants, you dont ever hear any yonko say Momonga, or Akainu would go after them only Garp.

& yeah cause WB went all out, Sengoku literally had to let everyone know to be careful cause he can literally destroy the world & the overall goal was to rescue Ace and keep casualties as low as possible, they rescued Ace until he let his emotions win, in the broad scope if it all in the end the marines lost, WB & Ace died yes but WB was at his limit health wise and Ace, the Admirals couldnt even get past the YC until they took advantage of being offgaurd and not paying attention evn so much that Aokiji had to make the statement to clarify how he was able to "win" against Jozu, what did any Shichibukai accomplish, lihawk was barely able to even touch luffy, he was unable to damage Buggy his captain, he could not get close to WB, 2 of his commanders stopped him in his tracks and so did Croc. Joker caught Jozu off-guard and was equal to Croc, Moriah got negged by Jinbei, Kuma got stalemated by Iva, like what did any shichibukai or top tier even do from the marines side outside of Akainu who even then had a piss poor showing, if Garp and Sengoku had went all out or did something this might be a different story but same can be said for the opposing side we saw marco treat king and queen like fodder, they were also down 3 commanders Ace, Teach and Thatch & they also didnt even have the Fishmen Pirate Crew alongside them. Jinbei alone was already a lot for most people to handle imagine if they had the full Sun Pirates there.

Marines have then since have done nothing to combat the Yonko outside of fighting Luffy in which case took both an admiral and Gorosei member plus CP0 to fight him.
 
#30
Titles are used as a perspective of the populace of One Piece and Oda is giving us the narrative of how characters view other characters.

To put it simply because a character is called the strongest we should probably hold a little bit of doubt on whether they are unless they prove it.
 
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