General & Others Unofficial 5th emperors

Albino 👑

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We know post whole cake arc luffy was the closest thing to an emperor at the time with him even being called the unofficial 5th emperor

So outside of luffy who do you think is the most comparable to the emperors in status at these different points?
3 main points
  • Individual strength
  • Crew/fleet
  • Influence
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  1. Who was the closest pre marineford aka when whitebeard, big mom, kaido, and shanks were emperors
  2. Who was the closest post grudge war aka when big mom, kaido, shanks, and blackbeard and were emperors
  3. Who is the closest post wano aka when shanks, blackbeard, buggy, and luffy are emperors
 
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1 pre time skip the first name who comes to mind is Shiki but it is weird since he is one of those canon/non canon characters so I will go with Mihawk. He has the strength of Shanks (more or less) so he is already an emperor as an individual but he actually has no crew (but you can be sure he can gather a decent one in short time if he wants to). Another big name is Ray, maybe even a better candidate than Mihawk since he probably can gather more than one ex Roger pirate member. And of course BB who was actually working for it. He had already enough power to scar Shanks and a crew that.. still needed a lot of work (pre Impel down at least)(The Impel down one was already impressive given the hype of lvl 6 guys, even if Aokiji lol diffing multiple ones dehyped them a bit).

2 Mihawk and Ray again. BB is already an emperor. The best candidates now are Luffy (who still needs a ton of work on himself and the crew, after all he was just a bit better than Doffy at best at Sabaody part 2, so YC3). Then Marco of course had his chances to become an emperor... If BB didn't crush him. He would have still been weak as an emperor but the power of the crew was pretty good despite taking out Marco, Jozu without an arm and eventual other losses (Oh, Ace of course).

3 Not counting Ray, Mihawk is the main power behind yonko Buggy now. Maybe the 2 best choices at this point are Law and Kidd... But Kidd is destroyed while Law is not much better now... If BM and Kaido are really dead then Katakuri for sure becomes a candidate while King... Probably he was captured by Greenbull, right? Queen is in the same place. And Jack is way too weak to be an emperor candidate even with all that is left of the beast pirates behind him.
 
NAMELESS

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Albino 👑 said:

We know post whole cake arc luffy was the closest thing to an emperor at the time with him even being called the unofficial 5th emperor

So outside of luffy who do you think is the most comparable to the emperors in status at these different points?
3 main points
  • Individual strength
  • Crew/fleet
  • Influence
:doffyou:
  1. Who was the closest pre marineford aka when whitebeard, big mom, kaido, and shanks were emperors
  2. Who was the closest post grudge war aka when big mom, kaido, shanks, and blackbeard and were emperors
  3. Who is the closest post wano aka when shanks, blackbeard, buggy, and luffy are emperors
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Pre-Skip:Marco could have been considered one.
Post-Wano:Katakuri+the remaining BM pirates are quite a force.
The Man Marked by the Flames could make it too if he is strong enough,but i think he is a lone wolf type.No crew around.
 
Franosuke

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Pre-MF, I would say probably Doffy and his organization. One of the premier underground brokers, governing over a country, and one of the most powerful Warlords.

Post grudge-war, it's probably still Doffy. If it wasn't post grudge-war, I would've said maybe Marco is up there by default.

Post-Wano, there's really no one else of note. It would have to be Katakuri or Hancock. Doffy's imprisoned, Croc's organization (if there's anyone else besides him and Daz) merged with Cross Guild, and the other Warlords are either captured or allied with someone already.

Kid and Law are already toast, and even then they never had any real status/influence/territory, and the other Supernovas are even less noteworthy. The only question mark is Urouge, lol.

Besides, the only true Yonko-tier pirate in this era who hasn't become a Yonko is Mihawk, and he's just a solo man so he's discounted by default.
 
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Franosuke said:
Pre-MF, I would say probably Doffy and his organization. One of the premier underground brokers, governing over a country, and one of the most powerful Warlords.

Post grudge-war, it's probably still Doffy. If it wasn't post grudge-war, I would've said maybe Marco is up there by default.

Post-Wano, there's really no one else of note. It would have to be Katakuri or Hancock. Doffy's imprisoned, Croc's organization (if there's anyone else besides him and Daz) merged with Cross Guild, and the other Warlords are either captured or allied with someone already.

Kid and Law are already toast, and even then they never had any real status/influence/territory, and the other Supernovas are even less noteworthy. The only question mark is Urouge, lol.

Besides, the only true Yonko-tier pirate in this era who hasn't become a Yonko is Mihawk.
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Boa Hancock is no joke either,she no diffed many Yonko Commanders.
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Franosuke said:
Pre-MF, I would say probably Doffy and his organization. One of the premier underground brokers, governing over a country, and one of the most powerful Warlords.

Post grudge-war, it's probably still Doffy. If it wasn't post grudge-war, I would've said maybe Marco is up there by default.

Post-Wano, there's really no one else of note. It would have to be Katakuri or Hancock. Doffy's imprisoned, Croc's organization (if there's anyone else besides him and Daz) merged with Cross Guild, and the other Warlords are either captured or allied with someone already.

Kid and Law are already toast, and even then they never had any real status/influence/territory, and the other Supernovas are even less noteworthy. The only question mark is Urouge, lol.

Besides, the only true Yonko-tier pirate in this era who hasn't become a Yonko is Mihawk, and he's just a solo man so he's discounted by default.
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Shiki is still around somewhere.
 
Franosuke

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NAMELESS said:
Boa Hancock is no joke either,she no diffed many Yonko Commanders.
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Hancock is definitely strong, although I would say her powers are unbelievably convenient and difficult to scale. I feel like most true top tiers likely wouldn't be affected by her powers if haki is equated, but most high tiers likely get wrecked.

She also has a relatively large and strong crew compared to the other Warlords. I'd say only Doffy has a better one out of the Warlords.
 
Don Diego

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Franosuke said:
Hancock is definitely strong, although I would say her powers are unbelievably convenient and difficult to scale. I feel like most true top tiers likely wouldn't be affected by her powers if haki is equated, but most high tiers likely get wrecked.

She also has a relatively large and strong crew compared to the other Warlords. I'd say only Doffy has a better one out of the Warlords.
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even Mihawk's monkeys are stronger than Boa or Doffy crews
 
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First of all Luffy was never close to be a 5th emperor until he learned CoC coating. That was all Fake News Morgan and Oda hard wanking Luffy for doing absolutely nothing that could have him called as an emperor.

With that said let's see who was the closest to be called a 5th emperor in each Era.

  1. Considering Warlord of course it has to be Mihawk but since Warlords are not meant to be an Emperor I will have another name of course Teach. There is no known pirate until timeskip that is not a Warlord with more power and influence than him after he dropped Shichibukai and recruited Level 6 Impel Down prisioners. If I can't consider him for whatever reason I would say Law since he was the strongest Supernova because of his DF.
  2. Again considering Warlords it has to be Mihawk there is no other option. Now I can't consider Teach that already became an Emperor or Aokiji that is his subordinate but I could consider Marco and would be my option if he was still together with the rest of the crew. Since Marco alone can't be an Emperor(he is no fucking Mihawk) I will have to go with Crocodile. That man out of nowhere showed up with an almost 2 bi bounty(close to Teach bounty when he became a Yonko himself). Can't say much about it but his bounty alone speaks for his influence.
  3. Finally there are no Warlord but we can't consider Mihawk since he is part of a Guild that already has Buggy as an Emperor(I believe we can't consider having 2 Emperors on that guild specially since one of them said to have no interesting becoming one). So I think the obvious choice has to be one of the former Warlord and in particular Boa Hancock, she was recognized as a huge threat mostly because of her DF but she is also strong physically and with her haki, not only that but Fuja pirates are also renowed as strong World Wide since they maintained their Island away of men and even WG for so long.
  4. Bonus points: I wasn't considering legends that we now know about it but didn't knew before and still can't power scale like Wang Zhi, Shiki etc. Neither retired pirates as Rayleigh and probably Gaban.
 
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Shiki fits some of the criteria.

Anyway,

Pre-TS: Boa Hancock/Doflamingo. I didn't count guys like Katakuri and Rayleigh since they're first mates and not captains.
Timeskip: Marco.
Post-Wano: I would have say Kidd and Law but they don't really have a big crew/fleets/territory. So Hancock it is.
 
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Wang zhi?
Maybe there are some big shots the novas defeated
Bege was known for assassinating tough pirate captains and Apoo was a infromant for kaido
And Hawkins seem more dangerous than usual
 
thedarkdragon11

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  • Shiki and Wang Zhi (Yonko formation - Paramount War)
  • Marco (Paramount War - Payback War)
  • Teach (Payback War - Rocky Port Incident)
  • Buggy (Rocky Port Incident - Infiltration of WCI)
  • Luffy (Infiltration of WCI - Raid on Onigashima)
  • Kid and Law (Raid on Onigashima - Recent events)
  • ? (Yet to rise)
 
Erkan12

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Albino 👑 said:

We know post whole cake arc luffy was the closest thing to an emperor at the time with him even being called the unofficial 5th emperor

So outside of luffy who do you think is the most comparable to the emperors in status at these different points?
3 main points
  • Individual strength
  • Crew/fleet
  • Influence
:doffyou:
  1. Who was the closest pre marineford aka when whitebeard, big mom, kaido, and shanks were emperors
  2. Who was the closest post grudge war aka when big mom, kaido, shanks, and blackbeard and were emperors
  3. Who is the closest post wano aka when shanks, blackbeard, buggy, and luffy are emperors
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Marco + Remnants of WB Pirates (Jozu, Vista, Izo etc), or Ochoku when he controlled Hachinosu Island.

BB get rid of both.
 
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