VS Thread : Knuckle vs Uvogin

[RayanOO]

I see a lot of downplay for the PT and Uvo in particular everywhere. So I wanted to make this match to see how a match between the two would go and your opinions about this.

Round 1 : In a closed space like the Zazan vs Feitan

Round 2 : in an open field, no boundaries.

Who wins ?

Tags : @Chrono @Just a member @SethTrollins @Enma @Rosella.Fiamingo @Red Admiral @NeutralWatcher

 

[Chrono]

Round 1 :-

Lmao Knucle has no chance. Uvogin is a durable monster whos skin broke the fist of Shadow Beast. In terms of base stats, sure Knuckle is above Gon and Killua....but Uvogin is on a whole other turf.

Round 2 :-

This depends on if Knucle is fast enough to keep on evading Uvogin. Which I highly doubt, Base Youpi was an outlier in speed. He could react to Godspeed Killua but his body couldnt move as fast. Due to scalings and my recent discovery of Silva > Cheetu in combat speed. Its impossible for Knuckle to keep running away.

Plus we also have this statement.

Only master enhancers have a chance to take Uvos attacks. Perhaps people who are just durable or have large portions of nen in the first place could take his hits. But Knuckle would get his arm busted from a 20% Uvogin and all the debt will be thrown back at him.. He literally has no chance.




Only thing he can do, is just try to evade all his attacks and pray he doesnt land a hit on him, till he goes bankrupt. But even in a state of Zetsu, Uvogin can take hits from ET Kurapika. Lmao I wouldnt even be suprised if Uvogin still pulls out the W somehow even whilst bankrupt. This is a bad matchup for Knuckle.....Uvogin is pretty much a weaker version of Youpi....but with less restraints.

 

[Seth]

Round 1: Uvogin murders Knuckle. Uvo is a beast and Knuckle couldn't even run to think of a solid plan.

Round 2: Uvogin takes it too but this time he will need to put little effort because Knuckle will most likely try to avoid most of the attacks and close combat with Uvo in general. Half effort punch from Uvo rips Knuckles arm so Imagine when Uvo finally gets to him. Jesus.

Knuckle is too weak for Uvo sadly :/

 

[Just a member]

Well, Uvo is a spider and a fighting specialist just like Nobunaga. In york shin Killua commented on Nobunaga and Machi when Gon (and/or Leorio) asked about these 2 that it was like they were 2 Hisoka. This to say that even if I think Hisoka should be a bit stronger they should give him nontheless a run for his money aka they are strong and very. Knuckle on the other side is still too young and naive to give Uvo a good fight.

 

[RayanOO]

I think too that Uvo is too much especially in a closed space. But in a lot of places (reedit, NF etc) people said that Knukle can beat Uvo easy, and that Uvo is just a mindless beast. I think people understimate Kurapika when he killed Uvo. I saw people saying that Chimera Arc Gon > Kurapika and Knuckle > CA Gon so Knuckle >> Kurapika and so Knuckle >>> Uvo....

About the match up I think in a closed space Knuckle will be stomped. The guy is strong and all but his fighting style his heavily CQC reliant and against someone like Uvo things will go south quickly. If he can't run away Uvo will give him back the interest and more and Knuckle will be hurt.

In an open space Knuckle can maybe do it, but don't really know. Knuckle is quite smart and he is not afraid at all to run away, and his speed is no joke too. I think he can try a tactic to hit Uvo once and play hide and seek with him till he goes bankrupt.

But Uvo can fight too, and one punch will hurt Knuckle a lot. And Uvo has experience and can make some tactics too. He won't do nothing and let himself being beaten.

And without Nen Knuckle can beat Uvo just fine. Uvo his strong but Knuckle with his strength and aura can likely beat him easy. To be with or without nen is a great difference.

 

[Chrono]

I think too that Uvo is too much especially in a closed space. But in a lot of places (reedit, NF etc) people said that Knukle can beat Uvo easy, and that Uvo is just a mindless beast. I think people understimate Kurapika when he killed Uvo. I saw people saying that Chimera Arc Gon > Kurapika and Knuckle > CA Gon so Knuckle >> Kurapika and so Knuckle >>> Uvo....

About the match up I think in a closed space Knuckle will be stomped. The guy is strong and all but his fighting style his heavily CQC reliant and against someone like Uvo things will go south quickly. If he can't run away Uvo will give him back the interest and more and Knuckle will be hurt.

In an open space Knuckle can maybe do it, but don't really know. Knuckle is quite smart and he is not afraid at all to run away, and his speed is no joke too. I think he can try a tactic to hit Uvo once and play hide and seek with him till he goes bankrupt.

But Uvo can fight too, and one punch will hurt Knuckle a lot. And Uvo has experience and can make some tactics too. He won't do nothing and let himself being beaten.

And without Nen Knuckle can beat Uvo just fine. Uvo his strong but Knuckle with his strength and aura can likely beat him easy. To be with or without nen is a great difference.

Its impossible for Knucle to land a hit on Uvo, without Uvo landing something back. Unlike Youpi, Uvo wont have any openings.....and unlike Gon.....Uvo doesnt take time to charge up. He does so instantenously. He go from 20% to 50% to 100%.....Easily.

And one hit from his weakest form will break Knucles emitter bones. Unless perhaps you are using gyou on the exact spot....cause I really dont think Ken will protect you from Uvo's hits. Since most of Knucle's aura is going to his hatsu as well, he wont have much to defend his actual body from Uvo. So as soon as Knuckle tries to land a hit in CQC....he wont escape without getting hit back ( and then getting his bones shattered). Sure Knucle is impressive in travel speed, but his combat speed isnt great. Even Youpi was faster than him in combat.

 

[RayanOO]

Its impossible for Knucle to land a hit on Uvo, without Uvo landing something back. Unlike Youpi, Uvo wont have any openings.....and unlike Gon.....Uvo doesnt take time to charge up. He does so instantenously. He go from 20% to 50% to 100%.....Easily.

And one hit from his weakest form will break Knucles emitter bones. Unless perhaps you are using gyou on the exact spot....cause I really dont think Ken will protect you from Uvo's hits. Since most of Knucle's aura is going to his hatsu as well, he wont have much to defend his actual body from Uvo. So as soon as Knuckle tries to land a hit in CQC....he wont escape without getting hit back ( and then getting his bones shattered). Sure Knucle is impressive in travel speed, but his combat speed isnt great. Even Youpi was faster than him in combat.

Uvo is not stupid but he can have a tendency to underestimate his opponent and play easy if he thinks he is stronger. Against the shadow beasts he played with fire a lot. And Knuckle is smart. Maybe there can be an opening in Uvo that Knuckle can take or Uvo will more or less underestimate Knuckle and let him have a somewhat free shot.

I think when he does BBI Uvo has to focus all his aura in his punch so he can be "defenseless" in other parts. Maybe Knuckle can use that (but risky moves lol).

I still bet in Uvo in open space more times than not but I can imagine a situation where Knuckle will win an attrition war.

Even Youpi was faster than him in combat.

And Youpi is a full monster. Youpi can beat Uvo everyday.

Since most of Knucle's aura is going to his hatsu as well, he wont have much to defend his actual body from Uvo. So as soon as Knuckle tries to land a hit in CQC....

Knuckle is also proefficient in enhencement. I think he can likely protect himself against some normal Uvo hits (not be destroyed by them I mean).

 

[Dark Admiral]

R1: Uvogin mops the floor with Knuckle's dead body
R2: Uvogin again mops the larger boundry less open field with his dead corpse. lol
Uvogin is a monster in every way there is to be..

Spoiler

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[Dettles]

While I do believe Knuckle is a lot stronger than what people give him credit for.
I believe both rounds go to Uvogin.

 

[Finalbeta]

Uvogin without a doubt. He was considered the strongest and that wasn't just meant physically in my opinion. (I could be wrong but we cannot know)

Imo Feitan and Uvo were second and third ranked :)

 

[symbiote]

Uvo ass rapes.

 

[Chrono]

The fact that Silva destroys Cheetu in combat speed. And Uvogin scales to him whilst Knuckle is inferior to Cheetu....shows how much this would be an easy win for him.

Once Knucle wants to land a hit, he will be decapitated.

 

[Seth]

The fact that Silva destroys Cheetu in combat speed. And Uvogin scales to him whilst Knuckle is inferior to Cheetu....shows how much this would be an easy win for him.

Once Knucle wants to land a hit, he will be decapitated.

We definitely need more Silva action.
Sadly we will never get it

 

[Hiragaro]

I think it's obvious who wins

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[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

R1: Yeah, Uvo win this low diff lol. This dude is a monster especially with his physical strength. No disrespect for Knuckle though.

R2: Uvo win this again but with mid diff instead. I doubt Knuckle would dodge all of Uvo's attacks and his fist would break the moment he contact Uvo lol

 

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

The fact that Silva destroys Cheetu in combat speed. And Uvogin scales to him whilst Knuckle is inferior to Cheetu....shows how much this would be an easy win for him.

Once Knucle wants to land a hit, he will be decapitated.

Uvo does not scale to Silva speed wise lol. A fresh out of nen school Kurapika who is not a physical monster like Gon and Killua in any shape or form was speed blitzing Uvogin. Uvo has a severe flaw and thats his speed. Knucle needs to land a single punch and manage to block or evade then simply play keep away until interest kicks in.

Post automatically merged: Jul 22, 2020

Round 1 : Uvo wins if he can manage to corner Knuckle - He wins High Diff after exhausting himself chasing Knuckle.
Round 2: Knuckle wins high Diff after a long cat and mouse game with him looking to land a single hit. After that single hit and the activation of his Hatsu, he wins by running around.

Uvo is slow as fuck and speed is one of Knuckle's strengths. Uvo had Kurpika speed blitzing his ass.

 

[Chrono]

Uvo does not scale to Silva speed wise lol. A fresh out of nen school Kurapika who is not a physical monster like Gon and Killua in any shape or form was speed blitzing Uvogin. Uvo has a severe flaw and thats his speed. Knucle needs to land a single punch and manage to block or evade then simply play keep away until interest kicks in.

Uvo is a high tier PT member. And is also an enhancer on top of that. Chrollo can easily keep up with Silva. No way can Chrollo speed blitz Uvogin.

Emperor Time Kurapika being able to do that is a testmony to his speed and not Uvogin being slow.

 

[Rosella.Fiamingo]

Uvo is a high tier PT member. And is also an enhancer on top of that. Chrollo can easily keep up with Silva. No way can Chrollo speed blitz Uvogin.

Emperor Time Kurapika being able to do that is a testmony to his speed and not Uvogin being slow.

He is a High Tier PT because of his other stats such as Strength, Durability, Endurance and being a very good enhancer. Chrollo can keep up with Silva because Chrollo is physically agile and fast.

Emperor Time did not raise Kurapika's physical stats that was Kurapika's own speed. You can say that his heightened emotions gave him an aura boost but, nothing in that fight implies that he is faster than he normally is. Uvogin's speed is what keeps him from being atop the Troupe. In a close space against people that aren't that fast, he wins pretty easily but, Uvo is a slowpoke if a fresh Kurapika after only 6 months of nen training is speed blitzing him.

Also, you might retort that he can enhance his speed but, from series evidence, doing that is not so easy especially if it's not a dedicated Hatsu. If people can simply enhance their speeds so easily, Netero wouldn't have gone through all that maddening training to simply increase the speed of his hands.

Also, its worth noting that Cheetu was not speed blitzed. He was an idiot and got caught off guard. In normal combat where he is fully aware, I doubt Silva could tag him so easily. You can't dodge what you don't know is coming.