Break Week Was Dragon Well-known in the Marines?

[Dettles]

Similar to Garp or Koby who were Known by Name as "Heroes". Do you think Dragon did anything while in the Navy to be considered a "famous Marine"? Or do you think he kept a low profile before leaving and starting the Freedom Fighters?

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Should be the case.

VAs like Dobberman know Dragon has CoC and find it little surprising that Luffy would have it as his son

Akainu was hammering on and on about Dragon's son all the time as well

 

[Blazing Lion]

Dragon giving Marines nightmares all while sitting at a desk and looking east

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Considering he lives rent free in Akainu’s head, yeah.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Similar to Garp or Koby who were Known by Name as "Heroes". Do you think Dragon did anything while in the Navy to be considered a "famous Marine"? Or do you think he kept a low profile before leaving and starting the Freedom Fighters?

I think he was a major admiral Candidate.
But not something really important in marines.
He probably gained the reputation after what he did like aokiji

 

[a_fan]

Probably seen as the son of Garb so yes

 

[Zoinks52]

I think he was probably a rising star until he left or was expelled. Might have been a "monster cadet" like the C3 were.

As of now he's likely not known as a former Marine. I'd think the WG would want to prevent that info from getting out, so as to prevent people from following his example.

 

[mly90]

Yes he was the role model of the red puppy probably an admiral when Dragon still served, level obsession lakazuki displayed in marineford clearly shows that
He is holding grudges because Doragon left behind shitty marines when he discovered how rotten they are.

 

[MonsterKaido]

I don't think so. It is what dragon acheived as the leader of revo is what made him feared.

 

[soupongo]

No, objectively not. Most marines were shocked at the very fact that Dragon was Luffy's dad, meaning they aren't familiar with "Monkey D D Dragon", the son of Garp. They know Dragon, the revolutionary. Dragon most likely left before achieving Koby's rank after seeing CD atrocities

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

My guess is Dragon was a Marine prodigy he was so talented he became an Admiral at young age that’s how he saw shit and dark side of World govt and this made him question the ideology .

No wonder Marines shit their pant when he is named . He was big shot . My guess is he was an ex-Admiral .

 

[SkySanji]

He probably became an Admiral as a side quest and was Akainu's idol, like Aokiji looks up to Garp, would explain why Akainu acts like a tsundere for him.

 

[Dragon777]

Probably not.

Akainu knows him because they were friends/rivals most likely, but the rest of the marines were clearly surprised about Dragon being Garp's son.

He probably became an Admiral as a side quest and was Akainu's idol, like Aokiji looks up to Garp, would explain why Akainu acts like a tsundere for him.

Dragon wasn't probably even VA when he left, let alone Admiral. Dragon wasn't even thirty when he left, since now he Is 55 and by the time of Ohara he had already left for quite some time.

Also, Idk where this cope of Dragon being somehow Akainu's role model is really coming from. They have the same age, there Is a 99% probability they were friends and/or rivals.

 

[SkySanji]

Dragon wasn't probably even VA when he left, let alone Admiral. Dragon wasn't even thirty when he left, since now he Is 55 and by the time of Ohara he had already left for quite some time.

Also, Idk where this cope of Dragon being somehow Akainu's role model is really coming from. They have the same age, there Is a 99% probability they were friends and/or rivals.

Luffy is a Yonko and not even 20... why does Dragon being 30 mean he can't be an Admiral

It's a solid theory, Akainu is clearly obsessed with Dragon and it'd be fitting if he looked up to Dragon but then Dragon abandoned the Marines, creating a deep hatred for Akainu

 

[Dragon777]

Luffy is a Yonko and not even 20... why does Dragon being 30 mean he can't be an Admiral

It's a solid theory, Akainu is clearly obsessed with Dragon and it'd be fitting if he looked up to Dragon but then Dragon abandoned the Marines, creating a deep hatred for Akainu

Because the mugis are all extremely young given that Oda doesn't want to draw a story with a span of 20 years on screen. The same goes for the other rising stars of this period.

Every other, and I mean every other, "off screen" top tier had a completely different path that has led to a prime at least in their 35-40, if not more.
Shanks became Emperor in his 35s, Roger and WB at GV weren't even at their prime ( and they were ~ 35), Kaido was 40 when he lost to Oden, and so on.

If you want, we can even bet on this: It seems crystal clear to me that Dragon wasn't an Admiral back then and having the same age, he and Akainu were probably very close friends and/or rivals, and that's why Akainu thinks that way of Dragon: because his rival/friend betrayed in his eyes.

 

[soupongo]

My guess is Dragon was a Marine prodigy he was so talented he became an Admiral at young age that’s how he saw shit and dark side of World govt and this made him question the ideology .

No wonder Marines shit their pant when he is named . He was big shot . My guess is he was an ex-Admiral .

Luffy is a Yonko and not even 20... why does Dragon being 30 mean he can't be an Admiral

It's a solid theory, Akainu is clearly obsessed with Dragon and it'd be fitting if he looked up to Dragon but then Dragon abandoned the Marines, creating a deep hatred for Akainu

Again, if this is true, the world would know of Dragon as Luffy's father instantly lol. Public information on Dragon isn't known to most people

Even Robin says information on Dragon isn't really available, and she has been a scholar for years, and worked as Crocodiles right hand for years.
Even Kuma didn't seem to know that Dragon was a former marine until Dragon told him, and Kuma is obviously a pretty educated guy

 

[SkySanji]

Because the mugis are all extremely young given that Oda doesn't want to draw a story with a span of 20 years on screen. The same goes for the other rising stars of this period.

Every other, and I mean every other, "off screen" top tier had a completely different path that has led to a prime at least in their 35-40, if not more.
Shanks became Emperor in his 35s, Roger and WB at GV weren't even at their prime ( and they were ~ 35), Kaido was 40 when he lost to Oden, and so on.

If you want, we can even bet on this: It seems crystal clear to me that Dragon wasn't an Admiral back then and having the same age, he and Akainu were probably very close friends and/or rivals, and that's why Akainu thinks that way of Dragon: because his rival/friend betrayed in his eyes.

So basically, nothing is stopping Dragon from becoming an Admiral at thirty or younger.

Dragon may or may not have been an Admiral, but he definitely had a superior relationship to Akainu than just rival or friend, it's clear that Akainu is hyper obsessed with Dragon, not the other way around.

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Again, if this is true, the world would know of Dragon as Luffy's father instantly lol. Public information on Dragon isn't known to most people

Even Robin says information on Dragon isn't really available, and she has been a scholar for years, and worked as Crocodiles right hand for years.
Even Kuma didn't seem to know that Dragon was a former marine until Dragon told him, and Kuma is obviously a pretty educated guy

Straw Hats only know and reveal information that Oda finds convenient and wants revealed, I mean we only found out that Dragon was even a Marine like in the last hundred chapters lol, even though Marines like Akainu and Sengoku absolutely would've known and could've revealed it during Marineford and just didn't.

Also, Dragon could've used an alias while a Marine, there are many possible explanations that don't create holes in Oda's writing.

 

[Dragon777]

So basically, nothing is stopping Dragon from becoming an Admiral at thirty or younger.

Yeah, aside form the fact that Is has never happened for any top tier ever, current generation aside because of narrative reasons, no.

Dragon may or may not have been an Admiral, but he definitely had a superior relationship to Akainu than just rival or friend, it's clear that Akainu is hyper obsessed with Dragon, not the other way around.

Akainu talked about Dragon only when he had his son in front of him. He hasn't talked about Dragon since, even when the Revs were brought up for the Marijoa incident or Sabo, his RHM, was brought up.
We have never seen Dragon in front of someone deeply related to Akainu, so we don't know what he would say.

It's clear there Is a deep connection between the two though.

Anyway, I am willing to bet on this point: they were friends/rivals. They having the same age, same role post TS and even some range of bounty it's very telling.

 

[SkySanji]

Yeah, aside form the fact that Is has never happened for any top tier ever, current generation aside because of narrative reasons, no.

Akainu talked about Dragon only when he had his son in front of him. He hasn't talked about Dragon since, even when the Revs were brought up for the Marijoa incident or Sabo, his RHM, was brought up.
We have never seen Dragon in front of someone deeply related to Akainu, so we don't know what he would say.

It's clear there Is a deep connection between the two though.

Anyway, I am willing to bet on this point: they were friends/rivals. They having the same age, same role post TS and even some range of bounty it's very telling.

"It has never happened except for these examples of it happening"

He literally bitched about Dragon a dozen odd times in Marineford, Dragon forgot about him but Akainu can't go five minutes without mentioning his name, their relationship isn't equal, Dragon is the superior.

I'm not interested in pointless bets, Dragon and Akainu have a strong connection but Dragon is clearly written as the superior in their dynamic.

 

[ZenZu]

I'm not interested in pointless bets

You doing a lot of yapping for someone not willing to stand on it.