Was the Six Great General System revived too soon?

[Cichy]

Something I've been wondering about recently. Would it be more beneficial for Qin to wait a bit longer with the revival of the system until new gen becomes more mature and ready to take the role and then bring it back with all six positions taken? Ever since the system was resurrected Qin was not doing well.

-In battle of Eikyuu they were able to score amazing victory, but they also lost decent amount of soldiers to achieve it plus suffered reputational damage from the massacre that Kanki ordered.

-The Gi'An Invasion was an absolute failure. Even tho Zhao lost some generals, Qin not only failed to conquer the region, but also lost a member of 6GG and his entire army.

-Hango Invasion was another big defeat. More Qin soldiers lost then in any battle so far, Hango was defended by Zhao and only one Zhao general dead.

To be fair, since the system was revived Qin were able to capture some of Zhao territory, but they also lost some to Chu, so you can argue things more or less balanced out for them.

At the very least you can say making Kanki a member was not worth it in the long run.

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[Peroroncino]

They didn't even have the number 6 yet but imo they revived it in time because as we know Qin's unification really starts here

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

but they also lost some to Chu

They did? When?

Anyway. I think they really had no choice but to revive it when they did. There was no other way for Qin to get past Kochou. But the new gen of Qin 6 has definitely failed to uphold the prestige of the system. And Kanki’s actions hardcore backfired on Qin.

The Qin 6 just need a huge victory to make China fear them again. Wei and Chu have gotten stronger in the past year while Qin is weaker than ever after Ousen’s defeat.

 

[Bepo]

They did? When?

After Kanki's defeat

 

[Pirao]

It was, from a storytelling point of view. New gen, or at the minimum Shin, not being in the 1st batch of Qin 6 namings was a blunder on Hara's part. Being made Qin 6 later and only after other Qin 6 have been killed or retired will always make them seem inferior in a sense, like they wouldn't have got the post if those other guys were still around.

I guess at least we should be thankful that he didn't make Heki one of the 6 as some idiots were clamoring for.

 

[SakazOuki]

Not really, the timing was good, the system further inspires the growth of the young trio.
As for the defeats, they're part of warfare, the gamble was worth the shot

 

[God Buggy]

It was, from a storytelling point of view. New gen, or at the minimum Shin, not being in the 1st batch of Qin 6 namings was a blunder on Hara's part. Being made Qin 6 later and only after other Qin 6 have been killed or retired will always make them seem inferior in a sense, like they wouldn't have got the post if those other guys were still around.

I guess at least we should be thankful that he didn't make Heki one of the 6 as some idiots were clamoring for.

Shin/Ouhon/Mouten simply not being ready for that post when the nomination happened is totally fine.

And especially at the very peaks of their power (and before that too) in the future, no one in China will think they're living under say Kanki's shadow or Tou's or Moubu's or the old ones etc.

These three will be considered (alongside Ousen) the most impressive commanders Qin has ever had.

Your Shin wank is safe

 

[Daniel]

Was the formation of the 6GG an absolute necessity for Qin's military even when there weren't enough qualified generals to fill up all of the required positions?

To be perfectly honest, unless there was a scenario where all of the Great Generals and their armies were needed to mobilize promptly to deal with a major threat that would require the entirety of Qin's army as a whole, the revival of a 6 Great Generals system wasn't an absolute necessity...and yet...

It was probably a power move by Sei to gather all of the most talented generals under his wing shortly after Lu Buwei getting ousted from his position as Chancellor.

Ei Sei most likely kept that last position open solely to get the three main trio (Shin, Ouhon, Mouten) to compete with each other for glory.

 

[Krusher1357]

I always viewed it as a way to raise morale and competitiveness among colleagues, I mean look how sei talks about it

 

[Rumble]

There's also no reason to believe the original 6GGs were all selected at the same time, given the ages between them.

Kan Ki got his ass beat fair and square because he was dumb enough to carry on with the campaign after receiving only 50K reinforcements out of an anticipated 200K. He thought he could outsmart Ri Boku and beat him in his own backyard and paid the price.

Hango is different. This arc was entirely winnable for Qin, and I don't care that they lost and lost badly, the writing has been utterly disasterous so there is absolutely nothing mitigating how Qin within the material.