General & Others What’s something that you think would cause a shitstorm in the fandom
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Yonji is trash, and he technicaly ran away from p1, that fight was not finished.
Point is, we downplay the crap out of Sanji precisely because he didnt beat anyone decent, got his butt kicked multiple times, and their most hardcore fans for some reason keep saying Zoro=Sanji. He didnt get one in even in arc basicaly dedicated to him.
Point is, we downplay the crap out of Sanji precisely because he didnt beat anyone decent, got his butt kicked multiple times, and their most hardcore fans for some reason keep saying Zoro=Sanji. He didnt get one in even in arc basicaly dedicated to him.
Sanji did a cake so good it KOed Big Mom.
Sanji has a heart so good that he stills gave 100% niceness to Pudding, even after hearing the speech Pudding had with Reiju.
I don't care about your "Zoro or Jimbei or Jack" is stronger than Sanji when looking at how One Pièce works, Sanji will probably be Admiral level in a few weeks One Piece Time.
Sanji has a heart so good that he stills gave 100% niceness to Pudding, even after hearing the speech Pudding had with Reiju.
I don't care about your "Zoro or Jimbei or Jack" is stronger than Sanji when looking at how One Pièce works, Sanji will probably be Admiral level in a few weeks One Piece Time.
Nop, he is trash because he is trash, just like his brothers. They are nowhere near the new world typical commander level.
Yes, he did ran from page one soo the city would not be damaged, the fight is not concluded soo theres no victor.
Someone with CoO gets played by dirty tactics every damn time someone uses them against him, even fodder....whats his haki even good for, anyway?
Yes, he did ran from page one soo the city would not be damaged, the fight is not concluded soo theres no victor.
Someone with CoO gets played by dirty tactics every damn time someone uses them against him, even fodder....whats his haki even good for, anyway?
The Vinsmokes downplay as usual.
They put up a fight against Big Mom's Commanders and Veterans and somehow they're weak?
LOL no. If Sanji didn't beat Page One then he would destroy the whole city just to find Sanji.
You expect Sanji to have Future Sight or something? Sanji can't predict everything that's coming for him. Sanji didn't see the soldiers getting in front of Sanji and Judge pierced through one of them. Sanji didn't know how Doffy's abilities works. Sanji didn't know that Vergo have strong haki hence why Sanji broke his leg. Sanji didn't know Yuen was in front of him, etc.
LOL no. If Sanji didn't beat Page One then he would destroy the whole city just to find Sanji.
You expect Sanji to have Future Sight or something? Sanji can't predict everything that's coming for him. Sanji didn't see the soldiers getting in front of Sanji and Judge pierced through one of them. Sanji didn't know how Doffy's abilities works. Sanji didn't know that Vergo have strong haki hence why Sanji broke his leg. Sanji didn't know Yuen was in front of him, etc.
Not something absurd like Buggy killing Kaido or the likes, that would just mke people laugh and drop the manga while wondering WTF they were reading until now. Something that lies in the grey area, aka something that arouses always a lot of debate (Shanks vs Mihawk or even Marines vs Yonkos here or others). If we have a panel of Kaido oneshotting Ace then you can be sure a lot of marines fans here would riot (not so many or very vocal), if something like what happened in Thriller bark with Zoro and Sanji happens again but reversed then this place will be birnt down. Kaido beating Luffy and BM beating Law and Kidd with Zoro going like "Ok, it is time to get serious" and proceeds to beat Kaido and BM alone.. That would cause a tsunami of shit lol.
The power rang--- i mean, vinsmokes charged head on against an entire BMP's army, managed to secure Sanji and Luffy's safety, while KO'ing tons of people in the process.
And you think their level is low?
Honestly, not surprised. Post timeskip I've come to no care at all about enemies, unless they were the main bad guy. Doflamingo commanders? Honestly? Vergo was the only decent one. The other 3 were meh.
But WCI is a different story. Even the non-sweet commander enemies there were actually decent. Daifuku was ok, but Oven and Perospero were very decent built. Sanji speedblitzed Oven who was left wondering WTF happened to him, and Perospero was a threat and kept in action even in Wano. Saying the vinsmokes, who could hold their own against these enemies are fodders, is simply narrow minded.
Luffy with Future Sight was gonna get blindsided by Big Mom, and you think a non future sight can predict the movements of dozens of people at once? You think this is Enel or some shit? For your own sake, stop comparing CoO feats. CoO is, by far, the most inconsistent Haki and Oda have no idea how to work with it.
And you think their level is low?
Honestly, not surprised. Post timeskip I've come to no care at all about enemies, unless they were the main bad guy. Doflamingo commanders? Honestly? Vergo was the only decent one. The other 3 were meh.
But WCI is a different story. Even the non-sweet commander enemies there were actually decent. Daifuku was ok, but Oven and Perospero were very decent built. Sanji speedblitzed Oven who was left wondering WTF happened to him, and Perospero was a threat and kept in action even in Wano. Saying the vinsmokes, who could hold their own against these enemies are fodders, is simply narrow minded.
Luffy with Future Sight was gonna get blindsided by Big Mom, and you think a non future sight can predict the movements of dozens of people at once? You think this is Enel or some shit? For your own sake, stop comparing CoO feats. CoO is, by far, the most inconsistent Haki and Oda have no idea how to work with it.
The Vinsmokes downplay as usual.
They put up a fight against Big Mom's Commanders and Veterans and somehow they're weak?
LOL no. If Sanji didn't beat Page One then he would destroy the whole city just to find Sanji.
You expect Sanji to have Future Sight or something? Sanji can't predict everything that's coming for him. Sanji didn't see the soldiers getting in front of Sanji and Judge pierced through one of them. Sanji didn't know how Doffy's abilities works. Sanji didn't know that Vergo have strong haki hence why Sanji broke his leg. Sanji didn't know Yuen was in front of him, etc.
LOL no. If Sanji didn't beat Page One then he would destroy the whole city just to find Sanji.
You expect Sanji to have Future Sight or something? Sanji can't predict everything that's coming for him. Sanji didn't see the soldiers getting in front of Sanji and Judge pierced through one of them. Sanji didn't know how Doffy's abilities works. Sanji didn't know that Vergo have strong haki hence why Sanji broke his leg. Sanji didn't know Yuen was in front of him, etc.
Show me the pannel where P1 is knocked uncouncious. Running away is running away.
He specializes in CoO, dosent he? and when it comes to CoA, we know he is a pussyass that lost hard to Vergo CoA. Whats Sanji good for if he cant even see a trap with his sight before walking into it like the complete idiot that he is?
Let him bake his cakes in the sidelines, and lets stop comparing him to the real fighters, shall we?
Big Mom was playing with him. Brook managed to scratch Prometheus so good for him. Ichiji splits Katakuri in half but then got beat up later. While Yonji and Niji got beat by Big Mom herself.
Show me the panel of Sanji running away.
Yeah, injured Sanji that fought toe to toe with Vergo who can't even land a hit on Sanji. One of Black Maria's crew member say that Sanji is a foolish knight for going in there. Sanji can't just ignore a woman's voice even if it is a trap.
Let's just agree to disagree here. Cuz this discussion will go on forever.
Show me the panel of Sanji running away.
Yeah, injured Sanji that fought toe to toe with Vergo who can't even land a hit on Sanji. One of Black Maria's crew member say that Sanji is a foolish knight for going in there. Sanji can't just ignore a woman's voice even if it is a trap.
Let's just agree to disagree here. Cuz this discussion will go on forever.
Sanji vs P1 was just a showcase for the raid suit.
P1 was destroying people's shops, but Sanji could not take it. So he stepped up.
Law warned him several times that Hawkins and Drake were on the way. Law might be fighting the yonkos, but even he recognizes Hawkins and Drake's strenght and knew it would be trouble for them if they all arrived there to assist P1.
Sanji then decided to use the Raid Suit, since it would work as a disguise, also he could test it against P1, who, being a F6, was a strong opponent. He didn't know, at the time, that "everybody in the North Blue" would actually know who germa was.
He toyed with P1. Tanked hits with the cape, dodged everything, found out about the invisibility, incorporated it to his fighting style, the boosts, the flying, all of that. It was a testdrive. He wanted to knock P1 out, but ancient zoans are extra durable, so he needed more time to actually beat P1. But it was a completely one-sided fight. Not even a contest. Once he tested it, and saw P1 was still standing, he decided to move out, because Law and the others already had left, and, again, Hawkins and Drake were on their way there. No need for him to stay and fight 3 people at once before the raid.
And what's the problem with a fighter having another job?
A cook that can fight? awesome. a doctor that can fight? awesome. a navigator that can fight? awesome. a fighter that can fight? doesn't do anything more than what he is obliged to do.
P1 was destroying people's shops, but Sanji could not take it. So he stepped up.
Law warned him several times that Hawkins and Drake were on the way. Law might be fighting the yonkos, but even he recognizes Hawkins and Drake's strenght and knew it would be trouble for them if they all arrived there to assist P1.
Sanji then decided to use the Raid Suit, since it would work as a disguise, also he could test it against P1, who, being a F6, was a strong opponent. He didn't know, at the time, that "everybody in the North Blue" would actually know who germa was.
He toyed with P1. Tanked hits with the cape, dodged everything, found out about the invisibility, incorporated it to his fighting style, the boosts, the flying, all of that. It was a testdrive. He wanted to knock P1 out, but ancient zoans are extra durable, so he needed more time to actually beat P1. But it was a completely one-sided fight. Not even a contest. Once he tested it, and saw P1 was still standing, he decided to move out, because Law and the others already had left, and, again, Hawkins and Drake were on their way there. No need for him to stay and fight 3 people at once before the raid.
And what's the problem with a fighter having another job?
A cook that can fight? awesome. a doctor that can fight? awesome. a navigator that can fight? awesome. a fighter that can fight? doesn't do anything more than what he is obliged to do.