Speculations What the hell is this Kyoshiro (Ushimitso Kozo?), or his brother?

[ardym]

I have just watched the new episode and there is to much resemblance between this guy and Kyoshiro and the funny thing is he was showed as Ushimitso Kozo was mentioned , does Kyoshiro have a DF that change his appearance ? his chis is little different , and his hair is yellow but to be honest he just looks like Kyoshiro

 

[Homelander]

Anime as usual fuckin things up. Witching hour dude is still unknown.

 

[ardym]

just look at his nose , eyebrows, eye shape and color :D

 

[Lampyris]

I have just watched the new episode and there is to much resemblance between this guy and Kyoshiro and the funny thing is he was showed as Ushimitso Kozo was mentioned , does Kyoshiro have a DF that change his appearance ? his chis is little different , and his hair is yellow but to be honest he just looks like Kyoshiro

I guess you thought Apoo was one of the guys sitting around Orochi's banquet?

Two characters looking similar doesn't really us anything about how they're related. Oda has to fill up his settings with dozens of nameless spectators and fodder, he's bound to reuse faces.

The anime for a very long time hasn't shown us they know anything plot-related ahead of the manga. They get colors, full body designs, some setting details, maybe voice actor recommendations from Oda and that's about it. They need that information to adapt the material. They don't need to know future plot details and start foreshadowing events that Oda doesn't. In terms of the Witching Hour Boy or the Traitor, I'm willing to bet they are just as clueless as we are.

 

[Finalbeta]

Anime as usual fuckin things up. Witching hour dude is still unknown.

Fillers are interesting cause you never know what's gonna occur :smithnie:

 

[ardym]

Fillers are interesting cause you never know what's gonna occur :smithnie:

it is not a filler though the man was shown in the manga but not as clear as in the anmie

 

[Finalbeta]

it is not a filler though the man was shown in the manga but not as clear as in the anmie

Any scene that gets heavily distorted from the manga counts as a filler too to me, whether the character is legit or not.

 

[ardym]

by the way he was the only one who was shown to have the moon sign on his ankle and was not in prison the others was all caught i think that has some relevance. i don't know if he is Kyoshiro or not but i think he is the witching hour boy. but i think there is still some relation to Kyoshiro since Hyori seemed to know who is the witching hour boy , and she has a relation to Kyoshiro , she stated she has some friends who knows her real identity , we already know that Kyoshiro just pretended to kill her since if he really wanted her dead he would achieve that easily seeing how powerful he is.

 

[Homelander]

The guy is not witching hour boy they are oden loyalists.

Most samurai clansman are kinda interrelated because of marriage within the family to avoid clan wars in past.

However i am inclined to think denjiro is witching hour boy.

 

[sanjikun]

Witching hour boy is a simple petty thief, alla Robin Hood, that helps the poor. Denjiro was an educated man, with a vast knowledge of both history/politics and economics. He was literally teaching the Scabbards, and controlled their funds.

Denjiro's potential surpasses that of a simple petty thief. The dude is clearly Kyoshiro. Not just that, but he has been collecting money/resources through the Yakuza for 20 years. The Witching Hour Boy is probably someone like Hiyori.

Denjiro's potential is far too great for such a simple role that doesn't take into account (1) his knowledge of money/politics (2) his Samurai strength. The dude fought fucking Kaido and survived + he's super smart/educated.

All the Scabbards reunited, but Oda is keeping Denjiro a secret, because he's the "Witching Hour Boy"? Get fucking real. No one gives a shit about the Witching Hour Boy when we're going to take on 2 Yonko. He's clearly Kyoshiro and is going to stab Orochi in the back.

 

[Homelander]

Witching hour boy is a simple petty thief, alla Robin Hood, that helps the poor. Denjiro was an educated man, with a vast knowledge of both history/politics and economics. He was literally teaching the Scabbards, and controlled their funds.

Denjiro's potential surpasses that of a simple petty thief. The dude is clearly Kyoshiro. Not just that, but he has been collecting money/resources through the Yakuza for 20 years. The Witching Hour Boy is probably someone like Hiyori.

Denjiro's potential is far too great for such a simple role that doesn't take into account (1) his knowledge of money/politics (2) his Samurai strength. The dude fought fucking Kaido and survived + he's super smart/educated.

All the Scabbards reunited, but Oda is keeping Denjiro a secret, because he's the "Witching Hour Boy"? Get fucking real. No one gives a shit about the Witching Hour Boy when we're going to take on 2 Yonko. He's clearly Kyoshiro and is going to stab Orochi in the back.

Why do you think hiyori is witching hour. Do you think she learnt ninjutsu and learnt to be ninja. If it is so she could have easily escaped kamazou attacking her.

 

[MD Zolo]

Why do you think hiyori is witching hour. Do you think she learnt ninjutsu and learnt to be ninja. If it is so she could have easily escaped kamazou attacking her.

To be fair, she managed to outrun a SN for a whole night. She is not very weak.

 

[Homelander]

To be fair, she managed to outrun a SN for a whole night. She is not very weak.

Never said weak but witching hour boy seems to be competent person. Seems like he was stealing stuff without getting detected.

Although i do confess we never actually saw hiyori fighting or using any of her power. Have to see timeline when witching hour appeared and hiyori was around.

I am going with denjiro he was in disguise helping out the family . Denjiro also did lending and borrowing money .

 

[MD Zolo]

Never said weak but witching hour boy seems to be competent person. Seems like he was stealing stuff without getting detected.

Although i do confess we never actually saw hiyori fighting or using any of her power. Have to see timeline when witching hour appeared and hiyori was around.

I am going with denjiro he was in disguise helping out the family . Denjiro also did lending and borrowing money .

Plausible. But doesn't Denjiro appear to be more strongly build than the WHB? The silhouettes (though they are misleading many of the cases) do not give an impression of a physically strong person (i.e. muscle man).

 

[Homelander]

Plausible. But doesn't Denjiro appear to be more strongly build than the WHB? The silhouettes (though they are misleading many of the cases) do not give an impression of a physically strong person (i.e. muscle man).

Not sure silhouette are kinda hard to tell. I mean look at kanjuro silhouette design (meant for denjiro) .

Hiyori seems very interesting as well. She used to steal money from rich right by cheating them . What exactly did she do with it ? Hiyori def could be the case unless kyoshirou taught her to be kunochi. Hmm well pointed.

 

[sanjikun]

Not sure silhouette are kinda hard to tell. I mean look at kanjuro silhouette design (meant for denjiro) .

Hiyori seems very interesting as well. She used to steal money from rich right by cheating them . What exactly did she do with it ? Hiyori def could be the case unless kyoshirou taught her to be kunochi. Hmm well pointed.

I say Hiyori, because it's quite clear that Kyoshiro is collecting money for some grand purpose through the Yakuza. The Kyoshiro asked Sanji to pay a "monetary tribute" according to VIZ.

Kyoshiro is a good guy, because he saved Hiyori. He is probably funnelling money from the Yakuza back to the poor. But guess what? He's Orochi's subordinate, so he can't help people out in the open. So he uses the Witching Hour Boy to distribute money.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

I like the theory that says Kyoshiro is a "bastard son" from Oden during Oden old days with his harlem.
That shit is 100 times more intriguing and interesting.
Also, he's got the chad look with that hair honestly, and the strength, and can make his future motives even more intruiguing if he wants to betray Orochi or simply hated Oden for being a bastard son. Soooo much more can come out of this.
Specially with the theory giving concrete connections between his name and Oden, and some clues about Oden having a third kid.
Also, both got their harlem haha, and that chad hair.
On top of it, would be more interesting to see his communication with Momo

While with recent chapters with Denjiro borrowing food and being excellent in money management even in his introduction. It became clear for me that he's the "Ushimitzu Kuzo/ Whitching Hour boy" who steals money from rich and give them to poor.