Questions & Mysteries Who has the hardest dream to achieve in the StrawHats ?

[Darkoplax]

Was watching Tekking101's latest video about SH dreams and wanted to see what people generally think about this cause it's pretty interesting as SHs haven't been shown to do much progress towards their dreams (except few)


so i'm gonna make the case for every SH dream and rank them imo and see what everyone thinks about it :


- Nami , let's be honest if it is the way we think it is to DRAW THE WHOLE WORLD MAP it's by far and i mean by far the hardest dream like i don't even think it could be achievable by the end of One Piece but Nami need to travel way more and explore way more to even come close to this dream (maybe in her 90s or something) ... But Oda would probably change it so it feel fulfilling by the end of OP and to make it a bit realistic to achieve

- Chopper , this one is a bit more interesting as it's maybe achievable but it's way too hard if we go by common sense like to this day in our world there's incurable diseases and in OP world these exist too that's why Roger died with one and as far as we know there's some diseases that are literally hopeless (Brook's captain/Chopper's mentor) ... And Chopper still seems a bit away from his dream so far cause he had to rely on Law in PH to help him make the kids better but not fully cure them and same here in Wano with the smiles so far ... Again Oda might need to tune down the difficulity of this dream or it would be a bit unreachable by the end of the series maybe he just cures the hardest disease (the one that got Roger for example)

- Jinbei , while the dream to make equal rights to fishman seems very reasonable at surface let's be honest racism in such society as OP with WG it's literally gonna take the FINAL war to achieve this dream and no one to this day came close and while Otohime tried let's be honest even if she succeeded the Celestials would'v violated the agreement anyway

- Sanji , the All Blue is literally a mythical place that 900+ chapter in the series hasn't got a single explanation or a real plan to get there (compared to Laugh tell for example) other than "keep sailing maybe we stumble on it" like for all we know this place might not even exist at all and the only reason this dream isn't higher on the list cause we generally could theorize an idea in the community on how to create the all blue by blowing the Red Line while that's still a bit too insane as a thought i think most ppl think it's gonna happen one way or the other

- Luffy , alright so the diff between Luffy (and Zoro) and the 5 above is that literally no one in the entire history achieved the 5 above while we know for a fact Roger has been PK and went to Laugh tell and he didn't need to take straight on the WG in that journey (unlike Jinbei's dream) AND he didn't need to fight every1 that's strong to get there but just assemble all ponyglyphs even by stealing some ... again I think it's really hard and it's the goal of the whole series but the others are harder

- Zoro , Greatest Swordsman since chapter 51 has been about strength and it's the most realistic dream of any SH and the most achievable one imo (probably would achieve it even b4 the end of series by few arcs) ... and again we already have currently SSW and before him there was other ppl with the title

- Robin , tied to Luffy's and we already have multiple individuals that already know the history of the world and there's potentially a third eyed tribe and Kozuki family being able to write and read ponyglyphs so the novelty of Robin being THE ONE has died off imo

- Franky , pretty vague you could already argue that Franky achieved his dream but whatever ... his dream is to create a strong ship (already achieved) that travel seas and witness countless batlles (already achieved) and reach the end of the Grand Line again which's tied to Luffy but to a lesser degree

- Usopp , people could agrue this a lot but obviously Usopp's dream is all mental ... you could see it being one of the hardest for his character or one of the most meh dreams but the fact that 900+ chapters in and he hasn't showed gradual progression is kinda annoying , he might have some moments of bravery but these fades away so Oda could do his gag ... Like Usopp's dream could be literally achievable next chapter but obviously Oda is holding on it (potentiel sacrifice ?)

- Brook , bruh this dude had 2 years where he travelled to do concerts but didn't bother go back and achieve his dream (that he's been waiting to do for years) and meet laboon ? instead he went to "train" to help couple of strangers he met a month ago ...

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Chopper - it's outright impossible

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Definitely chopper

 

[Just a member]

In the real world it would be Chopper since the udea of making an universal oanacea is laughable but in OP world and with plot power he will do it by the time Luffy becomes pirate king or a little later at best.

Same for Jinbe, he is pretty much fighting vs the human condition pretty much: racism, elitarism, misoginism, hate vs minorities in general. It is in the human primordial and "animal" nature to try to dominate who is weaker or at least seems so. By in the OP world with the help of plot power it will be done by eos.

Nami, in a water world it would take an age but still it is a task that given a certain amount of time it is possible to achieve. Yet I'm sure that even if we haven't hear anything from Nami about her dream or her srawing a map or anything related to it since... Arlong saga(?) she will magically achieve it by eos or a bit later.

Sanji will get his all blue by Luffy destroing the read line linking all the seas.

Usopp pretty much has already achieved it.

Robin will have it done by eos, SH will magically get all the poneglyphs for her to read somewhat.

Franky will have it done by the time they reach Raftel.

Zoro will achieve it by beating Mihawk. This at least will require effort on panel.

And finally Luffy has the hardest dream cause since chapter 1 we have prerry much him and all the crew doing the impossible to achieve it. So in the real world Chopper at least will have an harder dream than Luffy (cause his dream is impossible, probably it will be easier to kick a ball from earth to the sun using just your legs than making an actual panacea) but since this is the OP world Luffy takes the cake even this time.

 

[HA001]

In the real world it would be Chopper since the udea of making an universal oanacea is laughable but in OP world and with plot power he will do it by the time Luffy becomes pirate king or a little later at best.

Same for Jinbe, he is pretty much fighting vs the human condition pretty much: racism, elitarism, misoginism, hate vs minorities in general. It is in the human primordial and "animal" nature to try to dominate who is weaker or at least seems so. By in the OP world with the help of plot power it will be done by eos.

Nami, in a water world it would take an age but still it is a task that given a certain amount of time it is possible to achieve. Yet I'm sure that even if we haven't hear anything from Nami about her dream or her srawing a map or anything related to it since... Arlong saga(?) she will magically achieve it by eos or a bit later.

Sanji will get his all blue by Luffy destroing the read line linking all the seas.

Usopp pretty much has already achieved it.

Robin will have it done by eos, SH will magically get all the poneglyphs for her to read somewhat.

Franky will have it done by the time they reach Raftel.

Zoro will achieve it by beating Mihawk. This at least will require effort on panel.

And finally Luffy has the hardest dream cause since chapter 1 we have prerry much him and all the crew doing the impossible to achieve it. So in the real world Chopper at least will have an harder dream than Luffy (cause his dream is impossible, probably it will be easier to kick a ball from earth to the sun using just your legs than making an actual panacea) but since this is the OP world Luffy takes the cake even this time.

How is luffys dream hard ?
Roger to become pirate king stole a copy from meme (something brook did) begged his rival for his crew member and everything else fell in his lap beating no one on the way.
Just because luffy is CHOOSING to fight people doesnt mean he has too.

 

[Just a member]

How is luffys dream hard ?
Roger to become pirate king stole a copy from meme (something brook did) begged his rival for his crew member and everything else fell in his lap beating no one on the way.
Just because luffy is CHOOSING to fight people doesnt mean he has too.

That but also fight on par with WB, beat Xebec and crew, Shiki. Roger most likely was at least the strongest of his era and if not he was anyway very close to it. Anyway you can become the pirate king but after that you have to defend that position: WB never cared about that but the average top tier pirate does and so we have Shiki waging war on Roger and I guess it would have been the same for Xebec, if he was still kicking at that time he would have never accepted for somebody else to be regarded as pirate king or simply superior to somebody who wanted to be the king of the world.

 

[Chrono]

Sanji will get his all blue by Luffy destroing the read line linking all the seas.

I see this all the time. Like where did this even come from.

Isnt the All Blue an actual place ? If it wasnt wouldnt people not know of its existence ?

 

[Marimo_420]

Nami.

She needs to literally travel all the blue seas and make several unique trips around the grand line to fulfill the dream of making one world map.


Chppper can probably just create a magical drug/medicine that changes it's antigen or active ingredient depending on the disease tbh. I can see Oda pull that one out.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Chopper is the obvious choice, and Nami/Franky literally have to travel across the entire world to achieve their goals, but I’d argue that Jinbe will have the toughest time seeing his dream come true. Finding a panacea for every disease is extremely daunting, but theoretically doable; circumnavigating the globe is also time-consuming but not impossible; combatting ingrained prejudice of “others” is a problem we haven’t come anywhere close to solving in the real world, all other factors be damned. For humans and fish folk to live in harmony, they not only have to confront centuries of systemic racism and separatism, but they also have to take responsibility for the historical misunderstandings or outright cruelty that led to the current state of things, and actively find it in their hearts to try and be better, more sensitive creatures. I’m sure Luffy will be instrumental in doing that because LOL SHONEN CHOSEN ONE>>>, but realistically, I think that wish is the hardest one to fulfill.

 

[HA001]

That but also fight on par with WB, beat Xebec and crew, Shiki. Roger most likely was at least the strongest of his era and if not he was anyway very close to it. Anyway you can become the pirate king but after that you have to defend that position: WB never cared about that but the average top tier pirate does and so we have Shiki waging war on Roger and I guess it would have been the same for Xebec, if he was still kicking at that time he would have never accepted for somebody else to be regarded as pirate king or simply superior to somebody who wanted to be the king of the world.

The point is theres no requirement to beat ANYONE to do it.

 

[Fujishiro]

The point is theres no requirement to beat ANYONE to do it.

Your idol himself said it. Just stop. You dont need to beat everyone yes, but its still tougher than becoming WSS, his words. Wanna fight the manga go ahead.

 

[Ace]

Nami’s dream will require a lengthy time skip for it to make sense.

All the other dreams Oda can organically fit into the story

Though Sanji’s dream might literally be impossible to achieve

 

[HA001]

Your idol himself said it. Just stop. You dont need to beat everyone yes, but its still tougher than becoming WSS, his words. Wanna fight the manga go ahead.

Lmfao this is utter bullshit

What does mihawk know about becoming pirate king ? Has he seen what roger did ?
Those statements by people who havent become pirate king are meaningless as weve seen what you need to do on panel


Roger became pk because he begged his rival for his crew mate stole a copy from meme and had every thing else fall into his lap beating no one on the way. That isnt a level. The panels below show very clearly there was no strength involved in becoming pirate king. Its just a journey anyone with enough luck can do it.

Spoiler

 

[Fujishiro]

Lmfao this is utter bullshit

What does mihawk know about becoming pirate king ? Has he seen what roger did ?
Those statements by people who havent become pirate king are meaningless as weve seen what you need to do on panel


Roger became pk because he begged his rival for his crew mate stole a copy from meme and had every thing else fall into his lap beating no one on the way. That isnt a level. The panels below show very clearly there was no strength involved in becoming pirate king. Its just a journey anyone with enough luck can do it.

Spoiler

Youre going against what mihawk said. Noted. You want to wank him but yet completely disregard his words. We all know you guys wank mihawk to high heavens because when zoro beats him you can then transfer that wank to him, its pathetic.

 

[HA001]

Youre going against what mihawk said. Noted. You want to wank him but yet completely disregard his words. We all know you guys wank mihawk to high heavens because when zoro beats him you can then transfer that wank to him, its pathetic.

Bro stfu with your trash ass bitching.
Do we take character statements as gospel now ?
So is zoro the strongest in op because theres nothing he cant cut ???
What does mihawk know about being pirate king ?
Fuck all
Has he seen roger do it ?
Has he fuck

Roger stole a copy from meme (a brook level feat) begged his rival for his crew member and everything else fell in his lap beating no one on the way.
None of that is harder than beating a top tier.

 

[Just a member]

I see this all the time. Like where did this even come from.

Isnt the All Blue an actual place ? If it wasnt wouldnt people not know of its existence ?

The theory is that since all blue is a place where all the seas are connected and so you can find there every kind of fish that is what will be left at the place of the red line abive fishman island after Luffy destroys it. Anyway, even if it is an actual place that exist somewhere to find it will become a sub task in Nami's dream since she wants to map every island (even if that is a sea). Or at least this is the most quoted theory otherwise or Sanji finds it before they reach Raftel somewhere somewhat or he goes on after eos on his own (and both options don't sound so good).

The point is theres no requirement to beat ANYONE to do it.

Even supposing somebody can go metal gear style and steal every single road poneglyph from yonkos, minks and who knows who and also don't considering you have to defend the title afterwards you at the very least need somebody capable to steal this precious objects, somebody capable to read them, locate Raftel, reach it and for sure that is not easy as well so a genius navigator, a great ship and helmsman and probably other stuff as well. Proof is that even after Roger did it for the first time nobody is able to replicate the feat after 20+ years despite trying with everything they have (see BM, Kaido). Then if we want to talk about plot power (Roger having voat, getting Oden etc.) that is another thing.

 

[Fujishiro]

Bro stfu with your trash ass bitching.
Do we take character statements as gospel now ?
So is zoro the strongest in op because theres nothing he cant cut ???
What does mihawk know about being pirate king ?
Fuck all
Has he seen roger do it ?
Has he fuck

Roger stole a copy from meme (a brook level feat) begged his rival for his crew member and everything else fell in his lap beating no one on the way.
None of that is harder than beating a top tier.

Blah blah blah, mihawk said himself it is tougher, i do not care what your headcanon is. Your IDOL said it himself, so the road to Pk is tougher than becoming WSS, end of the story. You can try to twist it all day, doesnt change the fact that the man himself said it.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

From a realistic point Chopper and Nami. But @Jew D. Boy made a good point about Jimbei's dream.

If we just take into account strength, then Luffy and Zoro.

 

[HA001]

The theory is that since all blue is a place where all the seas are connected and so you can find there every kind of fish that is what will be left at the place of the red line abive fishman island after Luffy destroys it. Anyway, even if it is an actual place that exist somewhere to find it will become a sub task in Nami's dream since she wants to map every island (even if that is a sea). Or at least this is the most quoted theory otherwise or Sanji finds it before they reach Raftel somewhere somewhat or he goes on after eos on his own (and both options don't sound so good).

Even supposing somebody can go metal gear style and steal every single road poneglyph from yonkos, minks and who knows who and also don't considering you have to defend the title afterwards you at the very least need somebody capable to steal this precious objects, somebody capable to read them, locate Raftel, reach it and for sure that is not easy as well so a genius navigator, a great ship and helmsman and probably other stuff as well. Proof is that even after Roger did it for the first time nobody is able to replicate the feat after 20+ years despite trying with everything they have (see BM, Kaido). Then if we want to talk about plot power (Roger having voat, getting Oden etc.) that is another thing.

You dont have to defend shit afterwards.

When people were gonna attack pk roger he disbanded the crew.

Remember it was brook and pedro who stole the rp copy from meme. Not luffy not anyone brook.

Thats the same for luffy and roger who have oden and robin
Oden who is only there because of wb.

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Blah blah blah, mihawk himself it is tougher, i do not care what youre headcanon is. Your IDOL said it himself, so the road to Pk is tougher than becoming WSS, end of the story. You can try to twist it all day, doesnt change the fact that the man himself said it.

Lmfao i just destroyed your nonsense once again.
Mihawk doesnt know shit about becoming pirate king. So he is wrong.

 

[Midnight Delight]

I honestly don't understand why the fuck hasn't the World Government made a world map yet