Character Discussion Who is the greater chad? Kyros or Oden?
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He left on his own volition. Iirc he wasn't yet Shogun. His father was.
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That's a nonargument. You think East Blue or any of the Blues must only have 4 towns or something? There's much much more to it. Stop being ignorant.
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That may be true but she still believed him up to when she was an adult. I'm not arguing she wasn't in a shitty predicament, just one point.
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That's a nonargument. You think East Blue or any of the Blues must only have 4 towns or something? There's much much more to it. Stop being ignorant.
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That may be true but she still believed him up to when she was an adult. I'm not arguing she wasn't in a shitty predicament, just one point.
Oda tried to portray Oden like a badass and a guy with a tragic ending but he did a really bad job at it. It is one of the worst if not the worst portrayal we got for a character in a flashback (the flashback itself had some good moments for other characters though and we did see a few interesting things for the story)) but Oden ultimately looked like a fucking moron. I think it's probably because Oden was never planned and Oda had to retcon a few things, plus the fact that he tried so hard to show us that Oden was special while the only thing special about him was his strength (not enough to make a character look good if you intend to make that character one of the most important in the arc's plot).
Only enjoyable part for me was his last hour where he endured the boiling and knew they were going to kill him anyway and even acceoted his death, this was kind of the only time he showed some reason and saved his retainers and gave them a reason to live on.
Kyros on the other hand had a real tragic life, was an outcast and when he thought he could have something, he basically lost everything but he kept fighting and protecting what was dear to him without being as much of a fool as Oden was.
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Besides Nami was alone while Oden could rally his scabbards, the Yakuza and probably a bunch of samurais. Nami lived in a weak and small village, Oden lived in a strong country. Even Kaido admitted that.
Only enjoyable part for me was his last hour where he endured the boiling and knew they were going to kill him anyway and even acceoted his death, this was kind of the only time he showed some reason and saved his retainers and gave them a reason to live on.
Kyros on the other hand had a real tragic life, was an outcast and when he thought he could have something, he basically lost everything but he kept fighting and protecting what was dear to him without being as much of a fool as Oden was.
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Besides Nami was alone while Oden could rally his scabbards, the Yakuza and probably a bunch of samurais. Nami lived in a weak and small village, Oden lived in a strong country. Even Kaido admitted that.
Kyros goes hard.
Oden believing kaido and Orochi would honor the deal is laughable. This is a man who had travelled and uncovered the secrets of the world ffs.
Plus the PK crew offers him help to liberate wano and he refuses you. Mind you he had already dropped by in wano and confirmed bad shit was happening
Oden believing kaido and Orochi would honor the deal is laughable. This is a man who had travelled and uncovered the secrets of the world ffs.
Plus the PK crew offers him help to liberate wano and he refuses you. Mind you he had already dropped by in wano and confirmed bad shit was happening
