Character Discussion Why Akainu definitely has CoC and WILL be the final antagonist

#1
1- He has unfathomable tenacity and willpower. I don't know why he's so extreme about his belief in absolute justice, but regardless he's so determined to the point that almost nothing can stop him, he's both fearless and unconquerable. He took two attacks from Whitebeard - one of the strongest people in the series; a sneak attack, and another attack after Akainu melted off half his skull, and then he fell underground, proceeded to melt through it, came back to kill Luffy and challenged ALL the commanders with no fear at all, even calling them fools in their faces. If that doesn't show his extreme tenacity, fearlessness and willpower, then i don't know what else does


2- He's supposed to be the antitheses to Luffy. Both might share the same unbreakable willpower and determination when it comes to their ambitions and beliefs, but the difference is that Luffy believes in absolute freedom and Akainu believes in absolute Justice. Luffy wants to live in a free world even if he doesn't care much about what's good or evil, while Akainu wants a world filled with justice and no evil at all - evil must be fully exterminated, even at the cost of freedom. Luffy doesn't really care about conquering or controlling anything, he doesn't want to be an authority figure, he just doesn't want to be conquered or controlled by ANY authority himself, while Akainu wants to control the world as an authority figure, or at least wants authority figures to follow in his footsteps in order to completely implement his view of absolute justice. That's why only Akainu or Imu are the onle ones fit to be the final antagonists of the series, some might argue for Blackbeard, but Blackbeard is not fit as a final antagonist imo, and will be defeated before the final war anyway, so he can't really be the final antagonist. Luffy also has quite the history with Akainu more than any other antagonist, so i'm pretty sure Akainu will have to possess CoC to be a worthy final challenge for Luffy that he HAS to beat




3- He's also known to not back down or follow mindlessly, he's not afraid to say whatever he wants to whoever he wants. He's under the authority of the government, but he's by no means someone that let's others walk over him or his beliefs. He basically told the Five Elders themselves to fuck off after the Doflamingo resignation situation, even ordering them around and mocking them without caring much. Keep in mind that in Sakazuki's and the rest of the world's view, the Five Elders are Celestial Dragons with the HIGHEST authority on the planet. So talking back to them with such tone is a pretty big deal and so far we haven't seen anyone capable of committing such reckless actions except Luffy and Zoro when they attacked/tried to attack the Celestial Dragons in Sabaody



After knowing that, it's no doubt that Akainu possesses CoC, and most likely possesses the advanced form of it. He WILL be the final antagonist - aside from Imu, and he will most likely be the toughest opponent Luffy has ever faced both physically and mentally
 
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#8
Yeah it definitely is much higher than Akainu's since they went from mediocre to top-tier pretty fast. But that doesn't mean that Akainu hasn't also grown massively ever since he became a Fleet Admiral


Also Aokiji doesn't have to be weaker than Blackbeard since no one even knows what he has in mind
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#10
Akainu 100% have gotten MUCH stronger ever since his battle with Aokiji
But that doesn't mean that Akainu hasn't also grown massively ever since he became a Fleet Admiral

Growth spurts are a young man's game. If him or any of the Yonko grew considerably in power anywhere close to the degree that Luffy and the crew did, the next generation would never manage to catch up. Akainu is already one of the strongest characters in the setting. Him growing stronger over the 2 years is questionable at best.

Him growing slightly weaker after taking over admin duties as Fleet Admiral seems more reasonable than to assume that after taking over a more time-consuming job, he also somehow managed to find enough time to train hard enough to accomplish a noticeable growth.

To put it simply, Akainu did not grow much stronger or weaker than his Marineford self. His portrayal there is sufficient as a Top Tier impressive enemy for Luffy to defeat. Depending on if Luffy takes on Big mom before Akainu, Akainu might just be the first Top Tier Luffy manages to beat 1 on 1. But that's all he will likely end up being. A strong enemy along the way. He just isn't final villain material.[/QUOTE]
 
#12
I like it man. Imu doesn’t give me the vibes of someone that will be a normal fighter I think it may take a group effort to defeat them, with Luffy of course being the driving force of the effort. Personally I believe Imu will be similar to Shirahoshi, an ancient weapon(Uranus) or at least in control of it, the almighty Queen(yes I believe so) of the upper world contrasted w the humble Princess of the sea. I think it’s very possible for Akainu to be Luffy’s final 1v1 encounter for reasons you’ve expressed, he’s the only antagonist in the story to break Luffy down mentally and emotionally at the same time(if you don’t count Kuma separating the crew). Also Luffy’s reaction to hearing about what Akainu has been up to compared to Blackbeard was night and day.
 
#13
I like it man. Imu doesn’t give me the vibes of someone that will be a normal fighter I think it may take a group effort to defeat them, with Luffy of course being the driving force of the effort. Personally I believe Imu will be similar to Shirahoshi, an ancient weapon(Uranus) or at least in control of it, the almighty Queen(yes I believe so) of the upper world contrasted w the humble Princess of the sea. I think it’s very possible for Akainu to be Luffy’s final 1v1 encounter for reasons you’ve expressed, he’s the only antagonist in the story to break Luffy down mentally and emotionally at the same time(if you don’t count Kuma separating the crew). Also Luffy’s reaction to hearing about what Akainu has been up to compared to Blackbeard was night and day.
You're spot on about Imu not really being a fighter, as they also struck me as a strategist/the guy pulling the strings behind the scenes type of villain. They MIGHT have some really advanced form of CoC since they're sitting at the top of the world, but as you said, they most likely possess extremely sensitive knowledge/tools like an ancient weapon for example, which allowed them to control the world. There's also a pretty big chance that they're immortal and might have come from the moon


I also think that Vivi will be the key to defeating Imu. She's technically a Strawhat herself, and Oda definitely wants her to play a role in the final war and reunion with the other Strawhats during the final moments. She will most likely uncover a weakness to Imu while being kidnapped in order to bring them down and then the Strawhats - with her included, will bring down Imu
 
#14
You're spot on about Imu not really being a fighter, as they also struck me as a strategist/the guy pulling the strings behind the scenes type of villain. They MIGHT have some really advanced form of CoC since they're sitting at the top of the world, but as you said, they most likely possess extremely sensitive knowledge/tools like an ancient weapon for example, which allowed them to control the world. There's also a pretty big chance that they're immortal and might have come from the moon


I also think that Vivi will be the key to defeating Imu. She's technically a Strawhat herself, and Oda definitely wants her to play a role in the final war and reunion with the other Strawhats during the final moments. She will most likely uncover a weakness to Imu while being kidnapped in order to bring them down and then the Strawhats - with her included, will bring down Imu
I agree, I always felt that Vivi would be the key to activating Pluton, the original one. Possible that Imu/Gorosei know exactly where it is. Though I wonder when Franky’s blueprints will come into play.
 
#18
Of course Luffy will fight Akainu
But he's definitely not final villain material , Like even if Luffy defeats him nothing changes WG would either replace him or demote him or less salary or Akainu continues to do his job and nothing Changes
Final villain is either Imu or maybe BB
 
#19
Lakainu didn't have the same will and tenacity when Shanks arrived,



Or before that when nerfed weakened WB without even CoC two-shotted him, he was hiding under the ground (or either he was paralyzed);


:vistalaugh:

And after that, he didn't even follow Pre-Yonko Blackbeard pirates after learning from his men that they retreated (he didn't even make the search by himself), instead he was chit chatting with Bonney. And he also didn't send the Larines and Kizaru to Wano because of his fear from Wano Samurai.

He might have the same level of CoC as Sengoku though, but definitely not on par with the Emperors who can split the heavens with CoC.

I believe Blackbeard will solo 2 Ladmirals, and let his underling Aokiji finish Lakainu for good.

After all, the Larines are just the outward face of the Government.



The real face of the government will be a bigger threat.
 
#20
Lakainu didn't have the same will and tenacity when Shanks arrived,

Maybe because he was shocked he had that reaction? And also he was tired as shit, guy has been fighting Whitebeard himself and ALL his commanders casually and tanking Island splitting hits since forever, no shit he's exhausted and most likely doesn't want to deal with another top-tier character who's most likely even stronger than old and sick Whitebeard


Or before that when nerfed weakened WB without even CoC two-shotted him, he was hiding under the ground (or either he was paralyzed);


:vistalaugh:
Also the Whitebeard attack was a sneak, cheap attack. Akainu took some damage obviously, but he dealt MUCH more damage to Whitebeard by blowing half his skull off and leaving two massive holes in his torso. It was clear in the manga that Akainu won the trade and then he proceeded to fight the commanders as if they were rookies to him

And after that, he didn't even follow Pre-Yonko Blackbeard pirates after learning from his men that they retreated (he didn't even make the search by himself), instead he was chit chatting with Bonney. And he also didn't send the Larines and Kizaru to Wano because of his fear from Wano Samurai.
He didn't follow Blackbeard because Blackbeard RAN away like 20 mins before he even arrived. How the fuck is he supposed to follow him? If Blackbeard hadn't been sure that Akainu can curbstomp them all to oblivion he wouldn't have left without Bonney or a warship. The fact that he ran away WAY before Akainu arrived is a clear testament to Akainu's strength. Blackbeard didn't run away from Shanks and he managed to scar him in his face and it was a 1v1 fight, meanwhile he pissed his pants with his entire crew who individually have YC levels of strength. And even Shanks himself admitted that he wasn't careless or anything




He might have the same level of CoC as Sengoku though, but definitely not on par with the Emperors who can split the heavens with CoC.

I believe Blackbeard will solo 2 Ladmirals, and let his underling Aokiji finish Lakainu for good.

After all, the Larines are just the outward face of the Government.

How the fuck do you know that? If the Admirals are so much weaker than the Yonko, why have Oda left them for the end game? Blackbeard was also healthy and at full strength and excitement during the war and he didn't do shit to the Admirals. Sengoku casually stomped him with his entire crew with a single attack. Oda also drew the Admirals based on celebrities that he greatly respects and he even claimed himself that he's planning to draw Akainu with great respect when he wrote a tribute to Bunta Sugawara



Also Akainu doesn't give a fuck what the Five Elders have to say and the Marines themselves mean NOTHING to him. He even eliminated several marines on multiple occasions to accomplish his goals. The Marines to Akainu are just a tool to implement his absolute justice and work on it. He doesn't necessarily care for the WG or the Marines as institutions
 
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