General & Others Why did Imu try to colonize Elbaf again?

[TheD.]

So now we know that Loki being the new niddhog/war god John elbaf is in the works.

Imu was seemingly unaware Niddhog was even on elbaf which on
it’s own is hilarious and questionable.

but what made Imu think sending holy knights like sommers,gunko and killingham to elbaf after her strongest holy knight got mauled 14 years ago?

What did imu and sommers mean by this? Is it because they where unaware something killed Harald or is it a retcon?

And then why did imu send More holy knights to elbaf?
Did they just assume that 14 years ago Harald somehow managed to kill himself lol
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[TheD.]

Honestly this also makes me wonder is why was Loki recruited as holy knight and by who?

What did he do to garner that respect without them knowing he was niddhog?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Probably because of shanks’ public defeat of Loki. I’m sure within those eight years the WG eventually heard of Loki killing his dad. In doing so, Imu no longer had to fear an unknown quantity, instead what did he do? He sent someone comparable in power of shanks to attempt to recruit Loki. Someone Imu was confident could defeat Loki if it came to blows especially with Gunkos assistance.

Then once the WG became aware that Loki was not an obstacle Imu attempted to conquer Elbaf again using the kidnapping game.

 

[TheD.]

Probably because of shanks’ public defeat of Loki. I’m sure within those eight years the WG eventually heard of Loki killing his dad. In doing so, Imu no longer had to fear an unknown quantity, instead what did he do? He sent someone comparable in power of shanks to attempt to recruit Loki. Someone Imu was confident could defeat Loki if it came to blows especially with Gunkos assistance.

Then once the WG became aware that Loki was not an obstacle Imu attempted to conquer Elbaf again using the kidnapping game.

-Recruits Loki as a hk*
-Unware he is niddhog*
-The wg became aware Loki wasn’t a obstacle*
those points don’t add up



Also until i see shanks defeating Loki Idk if I believe That just yet.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

-Recruits Loki as a hk*
-Unware he is niddhog*
-The wg became aware Loki wasn’t a obstacle*
those points don’t add up



Also until i see shanks defeating Loki Idk if I believe That just yet.

1. They recruited him because then Lokis mind would twist to serve Imu meaning they don’t need to fear Loki killing any other HK
2. I don’t see the knowledge of niddhog mastering here?
3. Loki wasn’t an obstacle when the attack began because he was chained and beaten to an inch of his life. The HKs didn’t know he’d be freed And nursed to health

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Honestly this also makes me wonder is why was Loki recruited as holy knight and by who?

What did he do to garner that respect without them knowing he was niddhog?

He’s the heir they want a new Harold

 

[TheD.]

1. They recruited him because then Lokis mind would twist to serve Imu meaning they don’t need to fear Loki killing any other HK
2. I don’t see the knowledge of niddhog mastering here?
3. Loki wasn’t an obstacle when the attack began because he was chained and beaten to an inch of his life. The HKs didn’t know he’d be freed And nursed to health

So why did they say Harald blundered then?
When we know that Loki temporarily removed the marks influence,unless….

also imu was unsure something could kill Harald atleast not niddhog, you think they would be unaware Loki is a powerhouse?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So why did they say Harald blundered then?
When we know that Loki temporarily removed the marks influence

also imu was unsure something could kill Harald atleast not niddhog, you think they would be unaware Loki is a powerhouse?

Because Harald failed and somehow was killed by someone who the world saw was weaker than shanks. That’s a blunder.

We don’t know how Harald broke free but we know he was connected to Imu up till his death.

And they’re aware Loki lost to someone comparable to shamrock in their eyes

 

[TheD.]

Because Harald failed and somehow was killed by someone who the world saw was weaker than shanks. That’s a blunder.

We don’t know how Harald broke free but we know he was connected to Imu up till his death.

And they’re aware Loki lost to someone comparable to shamrock in their eyes

1.Headcannon
2. Loki broke Imus influence through either his devil fruit ability or sheer power, as Harald attacked Loki first so no power of love trope here
3.loki has never been stated to lose to shanks but instead captured, not denying it’s a possibility but still.

also Loki seems to be a Unkown to most people bedsides big mom and the elbaf giants so something tells me he was not really rampaging out at sea like they said he was

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Oda forgor

 

[Sir Yasheen]

1.Headcannon
2. Loki broke Imus influence through either his devil fruit ability or sheer power, as Harald attacked Loki first so no power of love trope here
3.Llo has never been state led to lose to shanks but instead captured

1. Loki being known through the world to have been beaten by shanks isn’t headcanon. Gaban mentions it
2. D and B disprove this. They also freed their minds despite attacking one another and their crew earlier. Sorry man the Loki broke Imus influence took a huge hit when D and B did the same just because
3. Gaban literally says shanks was the one who locked Loki up. and Loki confirmed he has a vendetta against shanks.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

prolly cause nika

nika reincarnated in wano and then fought with the gorosei in egghead. Gorosei also witnessed the giants aid nika. imu even had to kill one of the gorosei for letting nika get away.

imu needed someone strong to add to his forces to mitigate saturn's death and nika's appearance. Turning giants to wg side means it takes away nika's allies and adds to wg strength

unfortunately, as is pretty much all things now, this too is connected to nika

 

[TheD.]

1. Loki being known through the world to have been beaten by shanks isn’t headcanon. Gaban mentions it
2. D and B disprove this. They also freed their minds despite attacking one another and their crew earlier. Sorry man the Loki broke Imus influence took a huge hit when D and B did the same just because
3. Gaban literally says shanks was the one who locked Loki up. and Loki confirmed he has a vendetta against shanks.

Gaban didn’t see the full incident all he knows is “ Loki was captured” which has a shit ton of mysteries behind it

for fucks sakes domi reversi and the depths convenant are completely different they do not work the same , And Harald was bloodlusted and attacked Loki first there’s no debate about it lol Harald simply got beat.

If it was power of love or Haralds will power him attacking Loki and saying only he could kill him after eating the devil fruit wouldn’t make sense.

 

[TheD.]

prolly cause nika

nika reincarnated in wano and then fought with the gorosei in egghead. Gorosei also witnessed the giants aid nika. imu even had to kill one of the gorosei for letting nika get away.

imu needed someone strong to add to his forces to mitigate saturn's death and nika's appearance. Turning giants to wg side means it takes away nika's allies and adds to wg strength

unfortunately, as is pretty much all things now, this too is connected to nika

I honestly think his editors made him tone down on the nika stuff Loki being connected to God of war made me believe so

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Gaban didn’t see the full incident all he knows is “ Loki was captured” which has a shit ton of mysteries behind it

for fucks sakes domi reversi and the depths convenant are completely different they do not work the same , And Harald was bloodlusted and attacked Loki first there’s no debate about it lol Harald simply got beat.

If it was power of love or Haralds will power him attacking Loki and saying only he could kill him after eating the devil fruit wouldn’t make sense.

1. I’m literally talking about how it was talked about in the verse. Shanks capturing Loki is what’s known. Just cause you think the stories false doesn’t mean the WG does.

2. Dory and Brogy were also bloodlusted then snapped out of it of their own will. Gunko was also bloodlusted then snapped out of it on her own will. This hope that Haralds the only character not to is becoming insane. Loki has never been stated to have the power to break Imus controls over others, the soul powers of the Nidhogg is just a fan theory

 

[soupongo]

The WG never does an official search into Haralds death as far as we know, I imagine Harald is blamed for it, though not necessarily for any clear reason beyond the fact that the ¨great one¨ can´t be wrong(he failed to bring the giants under Imu´s thumb as slaves officially). Never made entirely clear if the general public/marines are even familar with his death

After Vegapunks broadcast, Gunko mentioned the government wanting to finally crush their enemies once and for all, who are now emboldened, and Gunko believes Giants will be the key to this.

The start of the operation is recruiting Loki, the prince of Elbaf as a GK, and have him do what Harald failed to.

after Loki refused, Shamrock told Gunko to get Mariejois to bring in reinforcements, and they agreed to use hostages to get the country to agree to join the government

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

-Recruits Loki as a hk*
-Unware he is niddhog*
-The wg became aware Loki wasn’t a obstacle*
those points don’t add up



Also until i see shanks defeating Loki Idk if I believe That just yet.

it oesn't matter if shanks actually did win or not
in the eyes of the public that seems to be the case
so yashene's comment is 100% correct

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Imu was very desperate hence he took the risk. @TheD. don't mind Yasheen. He is salty that loki neg diffs sanji's equivalent in gaban.