Sabo was literally stated in the story to have inherited Ace’s will, and Sabo has stated that he wishes to make it up to Ace for not being there for him during MF. Oda even cares so much about this that he straight up drew a “what-if” page of Sabo saving Ace from getting fisted by Akainu... Literally the first time that Sabo was ever name dropped was right after Akainu fisted Ace... It seems clear as day to me that Sabo will fight Akainu
Questions & Mysteries Why do people think that Sabo won’t confront Akainu?
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He most likely will confront him but it's hella dumb to believe that he may probably be the sole one and managing to vanquish him and yes DF inefficiency is a major factor but not the only one. There are other robust factors such as:
- The chance to have Luffy also revenge his brother
- The relevance of Akainu in the story
- The chance to have Luffy also revenge his brother
- The relevance of Akainu in the story
Seriously, how can Akainu fight in 1 or 2 arc Luffy who is already fighting Kaidou ?
I have a very personal theory that Luffy will sacrifice himself to save Akainu from some World Noble / CP0 / Gorosei and then Akainu will turn a good guy.
Or e!sr : Dragon and Akainu were best friend in the Marine, Now Akainu kills Dragon, Sabo "avenge him"
I have a very personal theory that Luffy will sacrifice himself to save Akainu from some World Noble / CP0 / Gorosei and then Akainu will turn a good guy.
Or e!sr : Dragon and Akainu were best friend in the Marine, Now Akainu kills Dragon, Sabo "avenge him"
Because Sabo fighting Akainu in the place of Luffy straight up ignores the huge, huge buildup for Luffy being the one to fight and take him out.
And I am talking about this buildup being present on every level : their enormous personal history, the big contrasts in their ideals and views, the huge symbolism scars have in the One Piece world, the basis of Luffy declarations about needing to take down emperors and admirals (and guess who his main marine opponent could be), the character of Akainu as the ultimate sworn enemy of piracy, Luffy's reaction upon simply hearing Akainu's name, the recurring theme of the great marine being the one to confront the great pirate, the parallels made between Luffy and BB/Akainu in their growth over the timeskip, the parallels between BB and Akainu made at MF as two points of view that are both extremely flawed, in contrast to what Luffy is accomplish and will accomplish by getting rid of them as well.
Sabo fighting Akainu in the place of Luffy it's easily one of the worst popular One Piece theories out there. And I can guarantee you that some people literally push this theory simply because they don't want their powerscaling headcanons (especially about the marines) to be wrong. Now, not all of them are like that and some have other reasons to believe in Sabo/Akainu happening instead of Luffy/Akainu (and those reasons still don't make sense overall).
But, strangely enough, this Sabo/Akainu nonsense is often pushed by the Yonko fans.
Saying that Akainu vs Luffy won't happen is like saying that Blackbeard vs Luffy won't happen.
Now, will Sabo have some sort of interaction with Akainu? Yes, it's possible.
And I am talking about this buildup being present on every level : their enormous personal history, the big contrasts in their ideals and views, the huge symbolism scars have in the One Piece world, the basis of Luffy declarations about needing to take down emperors and admirals (and guess who his main marine opponent could be), the character of Akainu as the ultimate sworn enemy of piracy, Luffy's reaction upon simply hearing Akainu's name, the recurring theme of the great marine being the one to confront the great pirate, the parallels made between Luffy and BB/Akainu in their growth over the timeskip, the parallels between BB and Akainu made at MF as two points of view that are both extremely flawed, in contrast to what Luffy is accomplish and will accomplish by getting rid of them as well.
Sabo fighting Akainu in the place of Luffy it's easily one of the worst popular One Piece theories out there. And I can guarantee you that some people literally push this theory simply because they don't want their powerscaling headcanons (especially about the marines) to be wrong. Now, not all of them are like that and some have other reasons to believe in Sabo/Akainu happening instead of Luffy/Akainu (and those reasons still don't make sense overall).
But, strangely enough, this Sabo/Akainu nonsense is often pushed by the Yonko fans.
Saying that Akainu vs Luffy won't happen is like saying that Blackbeard vs Luffy won't happen.
Now, will Sabo have some sort of interaction with Akainu? Yes, it's possible.
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I think both Sabo and Luffy would want to fight Akainu if they saw him and it's possible for Oda to go either way but Luffy vs Akainu simply has more build-up. Of course both facing him at different points is possible.
Luffy's reasons seem more important to me. Akainu's the man who killed Luffy's brother in front of him, the man that broke Luffy's will after multiple events that challenged it, he's the reason Luffy almost completely gave up after the war and his actions are the reason Luffy took a 2 year timeskip to become stronger. Luffy's scar was throbbing when he heard Akainu's name, if I recall, back at Fishman Island. That's how much of an impact Akainu's actions left on Luffy.
Akainu has plenty of reason to face Luffy given that Luffy is Dragon's son, that he already attempted to kill Luffy at Marineford but failed and that Luffy has been making an impact in the world as a pirate and is constantly brought up as an issue.
Sabo has his own reasons. Sabo heard about Ace's death after the war and he inherited Ace's will along with his fruit at Dressrosa (though Luffy also inherited Ace's will) and he's Dragon's number 2.
I could see Sabo facing Akainu but I think Luffy vs Akainu would make more sense and would be more significant. We'll see.
Luffy's reasons seem more important to me. Akainu's the man who killed Luffy's brother in front of him, the man that broke Luffy's will after multiple events that challenged it, he's the reason Luffy almost completely gave up after the war and his actions are the reason Luffy took a 2 year timeskip to become stronger. Luffy's scar was throbbing when he heard Akainu's name, if I recall, back at Fishman Island. That's how much of an impact Akainu's actions left on Luffy.
Akainu has plenty of reason to face Luffy given that Luffy is Dragon's son, that he already attempted to kill Luffy at Marineford but failed and that Luffy has been making an impact in the world as a pirate and is constantly brought up as an issue.
Sabo has his own reasons. Sabo heard about Ace's death after the war and he inherited Ace's will along with his fruit at Dressrosa (though Luffy also inherited Ace's will) and he's Dragon's number 2.
I could see Sabo facing Akainu but I think Luffy vs Akainu would make more sense and would be more significant. We'll see.
Sabo literally joined the story because Ace died not before. Ace's death triggered Sabo to remember his past memories, if not for Ace dying, Sabo would still not remember anyone, not Luffy not Ace. Ace's death should be more important for Sabo in comparison with Luffy, because Luffy did everything he could, but Sabo did nothing about it, he even gets mad when Burgess says; ''what were you doing, taking a nap?''...
Then the first thing that he asked from Dragon to get Ace's DF power. Luffy only cared when Doflamingo told Luffy about it. At that point of course Luffy couldn't turn his back at it. The difference is, Sabo makes his plan to get it before, while Luffy just casually reacts at it when he has the opportunity to take it.
Sabo's fighting style is perfectly designed to fight against Akainu, in a direct clash fist to fist, Akainu can burn Sabo due to magma > fire unless Sabo has better CoA level than Akainu, however, by having the fire ability + Ryusoken, Sabo's resistance to the heat increased a lot more than the normal, meaning that heavily wounded and tired Ace's hand burned when he clashed with Akainu, but his right hand was still fine after the clash, it would be far worse if he wasn't using fire DF power. By using the fire ability, he can get close to use his Ryusoken techniques against Akainu in close quarter, without that fire resistance ability, the magma would be far more dangerous for Base Sabo.
Plus, now Sabo can move faster on magma territory, if he uses his fire ability to move and jump around Akainu's attacks. Which is better? Base Sabo vs Akainu or Fire Sabo vs Akainu? Definitely Fire Sabo, who has more resistance to the heat than normal. It's probably even better than some other DF powers, for example what Rubber does to magma? Or other paramecia DF powers? It's meaningless, not different than being in Base, but being able to turn into Fire, definitely brings more resistance to magma.
Sabo is no.2 of the Revolutionary, Akainu was obssessed with Luffy, because Luffy was ''Revolutionary Dragon's son''.
Revolutionaries will clash with the marines, Pirate Luffy beating a marine Admiral does nothing for the story.
Whitebeard beat Admiral Akainu, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pre-Yonko BB beat Fleet Admiral Sengoku, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pirate Rayleigh beat Admiral Kizaru, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pre-Yonko BB beat Impel Down Warden Magellan, still nothing changes, they just demote Magellan, and made him Vice-Warden, what's the difference if you make Akainu a Vice-Admiral after beating him? Nothing.
But if Luffy beats another Yonko, that would strengthen his position as the Strongest Pirate.
If a Revolutionary beats a marine Admiral, that will create more hope and sympathy for the Revolutionaries, people will start believing in Revolutionaries power instead of World Government's power.
But people are not going to start cheering for pirates if pirates beats marines, that will only motivate people more to fight against the pirates, since the pirates will always remain as criminals. Which is why the story of One Piece, is fighting against Yonko, and before that Shichibukai, pirate to pirate, it's a pirate world, Oda still didn't add any marine as someone Luffy should beat so far, because he won't fight the marines the same way he fights the pirates, pirates are the main target for Luffy, the marines will never be the main target, as even Luffy himself said when he see Aokiji for the first time, the marines are the good guys. But when Revolutionaries involves in it, then the things changes, then you can question who are the good guys? Revolutionaries or marines? Pirates will never be the good guys like them, not even Luffy.
Revolutionaries should handle the marines.
Pirate Luffy can handle the ''evil'' Government, Celestial Dragons, Imu, Gorousei etc.
Then the first thing that he asked from Dragon to get Ace's DF power. Luffy only cared when Doflamingo told Luffy about it. At that point of course Luffy couldn't turn his back at it. The difference is, Sabo makes his plan to get it before, while Luffy just casually reacts at it when he has the opportunity to take it.
Sabo's fighting style is perfectly designed to fight against Akainu, in a direct clash fist to fist, Akainu can burn Sabo due to magma > fire unless Sabo has better CoA level than Akainu, however, by having the fire ability + Ryusoken, Sabo's resistance to the heat increased a lot more than the normal, meaning that heavily wounded and tired Ace's hand burned when he clashed with Akainu, but his right hand was still fine after the clash, it would be far worse if he wasn't using fire DF power. By using the fire ability, he can get close to use his Ryusoken techniques against Akainu in close quarter, without that fire resistance ability, the magma would be far more dangerous for Base Sabo.
Plus, now Sabo can move faster on magma territory, if he uses his fire ability to move and jump around Akainu's attacks. Which is better? Base Sabo vs Akainu or Fire Sabo vs Akainu? Definitely Fire Sabo, who has more resistance to the heat than normal. It's probably even better than some other DF powers, for example what Rubber does to magma? Or other paramecia DF powers? It's meaningless, not different than being in Base, but being able to turn into Fire, definitely brings more resistance to magma.
Sabo is no.2 of the Revolutionary, Akainu was obssessed with Luffy, because Luffy was ''Revolutionary Dragon's son''.
Revolutionaries will clash with the marines, Pirate Luffy beating a marine Admiral does nothing for the story.
Whitebeard beat Admiral Akainu, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pre-Yonko BB beat Fleet Admiral Sengoku, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pirate Rayleigh beat Admiral Kizaru, what's the meaning of it? Nothing. Pre-Yonko BB beat Impel Down Warden Magellan, still nothing changes, they just demote Magellan, and made him Vice-Warden, what's the difference if you make Akainu a Vice-Admiral after beating him? Nothing.
But if Luffy beats another Yonko, that would strengthen his position as the Strongest Pirate.
If a Revolutionary beats a marine Admiral, that will create more hope and sympathy for the Revolutionaries, people will start believing in Revolutionaries power instead of World Government's power.
But people are not going to start cheering for pirates if pirates beats marines, that will only motivate people more to fight against the pirates, since the pirates will always remain as criminals. Which is why the story of One Piece, is fighting against Yonko, and before that Shichibukai, pirate to pirate, it's a pirate world, Oda still didn't add any marine as someone Luffy should beat so far, because he won't fight the marines the same way he fights the pirates, pirates are the main target for Luffy, the marines will never be the main target, as even Luffy himself said when he see Aokiji for the first time, the marines are the good guys. But when Revolutionaries involves in it, then the things changes, then you can question who are the good guys? Revolutionaries or marines? Pirates will never be the good guys like them, not even Luffy.
Revolutionaries should handle the marines.
Pirate Luffy can handle the ''evil'' Government, Celestial Dragons, Imu, Gorousei etc.
Sabo does have Advanced coa(destroyed the arena similar to luffy destroying the shackles),if Oda gives him some power ups that make sense i could see him winning in a extreme diff fight vs Akainu!But there is a problem with this,who is Luffy gonna fight in the final war?Imu?We don't know if he is a fighter,i would rather see Luffy vs Akainu!Sabo vs Fujitora rematch could be hype too!
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