General & Others Will Luffy and Zoro become the pirate king and wss before the fight against the wg?

ConquistadoR

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#2
Luffy will probably find One Piece & become Pirate King after beating Blackbeard.
But as he just explained, he has another Hidden Dream that he shares with Roger for which becoming Pirate King is a stepping stone.

All SH will achieve their Dreams, including Luffy's Hidden Dream & Zoro becoming WSS, after the Final Saga IMO.
 
#3
Luffy will probably find One Piece & become Pirate King after beating Blackbeard.
But as he just explained, he has another Hidden Dream that he shares with Roger for which becoming Pirate King is a stepping stone.

All SH will achieve their Dreams, including Luffy's Hidden Dream & Zoro becoming WSS, after the Final Saga IMO.
Do you think zoro will have the final fight of the series or will luffy fight someone after blackbeard and imu?
 

ConquistadoR

The Rogue Prince
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#5
Do you think zoro will have the final fight of the series or will luffy fight someone after blackbeard and imu?
Luffy's Final Fight imo is Imu who'd be treated like Enel 2.0.
In someway Luffy's fruit will somehow counter Imu's powers like it did to Enel, following the established "God's Natural Enemy" narrative.
Basically a gauntlet of characters would get beat but Luffy would finally be able to bring him down after help.

Zoro vs Mihawk can be slotted in anywhere from during the Final Arc or in the Epilogue idk.
 
#6
Luffy's Final Fight imo is Imu who'd be treated like Enel 2.0.
In someway Luffy's fruit will somehow counter Imu's powers like it did to Enel, following the established "God's Natural Enemy" narrative.
Basically a gauntlet of characters would get beat but Luffy would finally be able to bring him down after help.

Zoro vs Mihawk can be slotted in anywhere from during the Final Arc or in the Epilogue idk.
Idk i doubt zoro will have the final fight of the series over luffy
Also how why would zoro be fighting mihawk as luffy fights imu
 
#7
I’m not sure but I have a feeling it’s post final war. I have no idea how Oda can write that fight in before the WG when Gross Guild are hunting marines and the SH’s are nearing raftel.

Given Buggy’s dumb luck Cross Guild might make it to raftel and Zoro fights him there but im iffy on that.

A lot of the straw hats dreams will be inconclusive after Luffy achieves his so the epilogue could be filled with that. Especially since Luffy has his real dream to fulfill
 
#9
I’m not sure but I have a feeling it’s post final war. I have no idea how Oda can write that fight in before the WG when Gross Guild are hunting marines and the SH’s are nearing raftel.

Given Buggy’s dumb luck Cross Guild might make it to raftel and Zoro fights him there but im iffy on that.

A lot of the straw hats dreams will be inconclusive after Luffy achieves his so the epilogue could be filled with that. Especially since Luffy has his real dream to fulfill
Imo the best time for cross guild to get involved is the same time the red haired pirates do. I think itd make alot of sense to get more shanks and buggy + shanks and mihawk interactions

Plus luffy, usopp, and zoro reuniting with their goals would be fitting

Luffy will defeat Teach and become the PK. Problem is that Luffy said that he has to become the PK after Zoro become the WSS first, so Idk.
Did he actually?
 
#10
Imo the best time for cross guild to get involved is the same time the red haired pirates do. I think itd make alot of sense to get more shanks and buggy + shanks and mihawk interactions

Plus luffy, usopp, and zoro reuniting with their goals would be fitting
I see what you're saying but do you have a specific timeframe/island in mind where everything takes place? Do you think Luffy fights Shanks for the One Piece while Zoro fights Mihawk for the title on Raftel? Or do you think it's plausible that Zoro can fight Mihawk after the WG?
 
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#11
I like to think zoro could defeat mihawk and get wss and then he has to beat adult s hawk with lunarian,flame,giant body,maybe even save the df reveal until then. Seraphim serve god so maybe they will fall to the strawhats while luffy takes imu.
 
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Luffy will probably find One Piece & become Pirate King after beating Blackbeard.
But as he just explained, he has another Hidden Dream that he shares with Roger for which becoming Pirate King is a stepping stone.

All SH will achieve their Dreams, including Luffy's Hidden Dream & Zoro becoming WSS, after the Final Saga IMO.
 
#13
It has to be before, because a World changing war will supercede that. Who's gonna care there is a new Pirate King or WSS, after news that the entire World Government was just torn down, and the Celestial Dragons were ripped of thier choke hold on the World.

It makes a better narrative for them to achieve thier titles first. The Pirate King, along with his infamous subordinates toppled the World Government.

Bad narrative would be, the Yonko Straw Hat Luffy toppled the World Government. Oh, now he just became Pirate King, and Zoro just beat Mihawk... Like the people would be shocked in the slightest that those two achieved that after destroying the World Government.
 
#14
I think the OG 5 will achieve their dreams after Luffy has become the PK, well except Usopp, whom I don't even know his dream is??
Nami- World Map completion
Sanji-Finding the All Blue
Zoro - Become the WSS
If you think about it, most of the SHs dream can only be achieved after Luffy has become the PK anyways. Only Robin's dream collides with Luffy's reaching Raftel and thus becoming the PK.
 
#15
I think the OG 5 will achieve their dreams after Luffy has become the PK, well except Usopp, whom I don't even know his dream is??
Nami- World Map completion
Sanji-Finding the All Blue
Zoro - Become the WSS
If you think about it, most of the SHs dream can only be achieved after Luffy has become the PK anyways. Only Robin's dream collides with Luffy's reaching Raftel and thus becoming the PK.
Usopps dream is to be a brave warrior of the sea. I can only imagine it would happen in Elbaf but other than that; every other dream can only happen Post luffy becoming pirate king
 
#16
I see what you're saying but do you have a specific timeframe/island in mind where everything takes place? Post or Pre Raftel? Do you think Luffy fights Shanks while Zoro fights Mihawk?
It probably has to happen before blackbeard especially if the whole killing shanks thing happens
Luffy vs blackbeard being a overall bigger deal because its likely gonna be luffy's final fight before he becomes pirate king. Luffy meeting shanks being more hype on an emotional level more than fight wise

And yeah if the red haired pirates and cross guild are together luffy should be the one fighting shanks and zoro mihawk

I think luffy and zoro going into the final war as pirate king and wss would be pretty hype. When it comes to zoro's final opponent while luffy fights imu. I think it'll either be prime s-hawk or sword gorosei

I dont think zoro is getting the final fight of the series
 
#19
Zoro becomes WSS - Before Laughtale
Nami completes her map - at Laughtale (Since Laughtale is the big ??????)
Chopper reaches his goal - pre-Laughtale, finding the cure to w.e disease Roger caught that Luffy will also get imo
Ussop becomes brave warrior of the sea - At Elbaf
Robin reaches her goal - At Laughtale
Brook meets his buddy - right after laughtale
Sanji and all blue - around Laughtale.
Luffy becomes renowned as the Pirate King - Post-Laughtale.

Zoro "becomes so great that his name reaches the heavens" - At Final War, when he either beats the Gorosei Swordsman or contributes to beating Imu.
Luffy reaches his final dream - Post- Final War



Majority if not all of their goals that have continuously been brought up will be accomplished before Final War. Luffy will go in as the King of the Pirates. Zoro will go in as World's Strongest Swordsman.
 
#20
My hot take.

BBP will defeat SHP at Laughtale. Making BB the next Pirate King. Then they will fight at final war. Shiryu would defeat Mihawk before Laughtale. Making him the WSS.
 
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