Versus Battle Zoldycks vs The Order

[Chrono]

Location:- NGL
Restriction:-
5 Order members
No Sakamoto, Hyou or Takamura

Silva, Zeno, Illumi, Current Killua and Kalluto vs Nagumo, Shishiba, Osaragi, Yotsumaru and Kanaguri

My opinion:- The Order mid diffs. Only ones that can actually make them struggle are Silva and Zeno due to hax. Killua isnt fast enough to blitz them and loses badly. Illumi is also hax but once they understand his powers, he isnt anything. Kalluto is collateral

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[Seatonnes]

Im just gonna say the order because i havent read hxh

 

[NikaInParis]

Idk how Killua in Godspeed isn't fast enough to blitz them?

And Silva and Zenou alone are probably enough, judging solely by their performance against Chrollo.
Almost any hatsu is a great advantage when fighting regular humans. Add Nen reinforcment on top of that + the Zoldyck assassin training and it's a win for the Zoldycks

 

[Chrono]

Idk how Killua in Godspeed isn't fast enough to blitz them?

And Silva and Zenou alone are probably enough, judging solely by their performance against Chrollo.
Almost any hatsu is a great advantage when fighting regular humans. Add Nen reinforcment on top of that + the Zoldyck assassin training and it's a win for the Zoldycks

Killua isnt really that fast. Especially since recently Sakamoto possibly reacted to Lightspeed, and the rest of the Order should be comparable. And even if we dont count that as LS, Killua was only like Mach 10 last I remember.

I mean their performance against him was horrible. They couldnt kill him in a tag team. Silva's strongest attack shown on panel was room lvl, whilst Yotsumaru on the other hand was just recently destroying a skyscraper casually. I dont really see any impressive feat from those 2 in general.

I mean I thought it was obvious that the usual Nen advantage doesnt count here lol. This fight is assuming The Order can see their Hatsus. Again the Zoldyck training doesnt impressive compared to The Order's strength in general.

 

[NikaInParis]

Killua isnt really that fast. Especially since recently Sakamoto possibly reacted to Lightspeed, and the rest of the Order should be comparable. And even if we dont count that as LS, Killua was only like Mach 10 last I remember.

I mean their performance against him was horrible. They couldnt kill him in a tag team. Silva's strongest attack shown on panel was room lvl, whilst Yotsumaru on the other hand was just recently destroying a skyscraper casually. I dont really see any impressive feat from those 2 in general.

I mean I thought it was obvious that the usual Nen advantage doesnt count here lol. This fight is assuming The Order can see their Hatsus. Again the Zoldyck training doesnt impressive compared to The Order's strength in general.

Seeing Hatsu is one thing, but getting hit by it is a different matter entirely.

Granted, we don't know the full extent of Silva and Zeno's powers. Silva has those great nen spheres, Zeno has his dragon thingys.

But then there's also En, which you might have overlooked as far as the Zoldyck's go. A meter wide En gives them both enough of manouvering area and reaction time to adapt against the Order's attacks

Tbh, I'm not that well versed in HxH to really go balls deep. But judging pirely from the fact that the HxH world has a way higher ceiling of power (like Adult Gon, Netero and Meruem for example) I'd go with one lf the strongest groups in HxH over any line up from Sakamoto Days

 

[Chrono]

Seeing Hatsu is one thing, but getting hit by it is a different matter entirely.

Granted, we don't know the full extent of Silva and Zeno's powers. Silva has those great nen spheres, Zeno has his dragon thingys.

But then there's also En, which you might have overlooked as far as the Zoldyck's go. A meter wide En gives them both enough of manouvering area and reaction time to adapt against the Order's attacks

Tbh, I'm not that well versed in HxH to really go balls deep. But judging pirely from the fact that the HxH world has a way higher ceiling of power (like Adult Gon, Netero and Meruem for example) I'd go with one lf the strongest groups in HxH over any line up from Sakamoto Days

I mean all the Order has to be is more durable than Chrollo. And we can see Kanaguri casually tanking bazookas. Uvogin had to use his Nen as protection and even then he seemed to take more damage than Kanaguri. And this is Uvogin lol....not Chrollo.

I mean sure En could be useful, but only Zeno has shown it. And even then it wasnt highlighted against Chrollo.

I mean thats not really fair. Netero, Adult Gon and the top CA are meant to be outliers.....far beyond any of the strength of the strongest groups. Plus SD is early days....we dont know how strong their top characters.

 

[NikaInParis]

I mean sure En could be useful, but only Zeno has shown it. And even then it wasnt highlighted against Chrollo.

Zeno has shown it, yes. But Silva stated that his En doesn't have the reach of his father's, not that he doesn't have it at all

 

[Chrono]

Zeno has shown it, yes. But Silva stated that his En doesn't have the reach of his father's, not that he doesn't have it at all

Alright but has En ever been useful other than detecting ? Like I guess Nobunaga uses it with his swordskills. But Zeno, Pitou, Silva, Kite, etc havent used it in combat.

 

[NikaInParis]

Alright but has En ever been useful other than detecting ? Like I guess Nobunaga uses it with his swordskills. But Zeno, Pitou, Silva, Kite, etc havent used it in combat.

It's a combat skill whichever way you put it. We have barely seen them in combat either way, so we can't even say how they utilize it.

And what was the thing Killua did in the CA arc? Was it En with his electricity imbued in it or something else? I'm talking about the Dart fight btw

 

[Chrono]

It's a combat skill whichever way you put it. We have barely seen them in combat either way, so we can't even say how they utilize it.

And what was the thing Killua did in the CA arc? Was it En with his electricity imbued in it or something else? I'm talking about the Dart fight btw

Yh I think it was En though im not sure. Still though En is like observation haki and whatnot. Like using it doesnt magically make you react to everything from your opponent....especially if theyre faster than you.

Like I said I dont think En is a gamechanger.

 

[Devilbat]

Need to catch up with HxH, but since it's next on my to-read list, I will be able to respond soon :)

Post automatically merged: Mar 11, 2023

Okay, I caught up with HxH and have ideas about how this can go.

I'd say, without nen, Order low diffs. However, if Zoldyks use nen, then they're basically invulnerable to simple weapon attacks and can be quite deadly. Fight between Gotoh and Hisoka comes to mind, Hisoka basically can catch bullets with his nen ability, and while I don't entirely understand what abilities the Zoldyks have, it still seems that they could be on top, as it's feels like comparing ninjas from Naruto or shinigami from Bleach to JAA, where you have abnormally strong and fast but still regular people.