Powers & Abilities Zoro and Sanji never needed conquerors or ifrit jambe

Did they need it?

  • Zoro and sanji needed conquerors and ifrit

    Votes: 24 58.5%

  • Zoro needed conquerors but sanji didn't need ifrit

    Votes: 3 7.3%

  • Zoro didn't need conquerors but sanji needed ifrit

    Votes: 11 26.8%

  • Zoro and sanji neither needed conquerors or ifrit

    Votes: 3 7.3%
  • Total voters
    41
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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#1
#1
Both zoro and sanji needed enma and the exoskeleton to win but them getting conquerors and ifrit jambe was supposed to be overkill




Both zoro and sanji called king and queen our on pretending as if none of the attacks successfully landed.



With sanji's main issue with queen being how much of a damage sponge he is. Zoro's main issue with king being not knowing how his lunarian body works



Take away current zoro's conquerors haki and sanji ifrit jambe and they both still have all the tools they need to win
 
Stacks

Stacks

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#3
#3
Albino 👑 said:
Both zoro and sanji needed enma and the exoskeleton to win but them getting conquerors and ifrit jambe was supposed to be overkill




Both zoro and sanji called king and queen our on pretending as if none of the attacks successfully landed.



With sanji's main issue with queen being how much of a damage sponge he is. Zoro's main issue with king being not knowing how his lunarian body works



Take away current zoro's conquerors haki and sanji ifrit jambe and they both still have all the tools they need to win
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Zolo unlocking ACoC was because of his will to become the strongest and mastering Enma in the process. I guess Oda made him unlock it in Wano cause he got Enma from there and his connection to the country.
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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#6
#6
Stacks said:
Zolo unlocking ACoC was because of his will to become the strongest and mastering Enma in the process. I guess Oda made him unlock it in Wano cause he got Enma from there and his connection to the country.
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Yeah zoro getting conquerors never had anything to do with king but enma forcing zoro to push himself to his limits to meet it's expectations
Thaidakar said:
Isn't ifrit jambe just a regular diable jambe after sanji goes in germa/eyebrow mode anyway? :seriously:
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No
 
J

JoNdule

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#7
#7
Albino 👑 said:
Both zoro and sanji needed enma and the exoskeleton to win but them getting conquerors and ifrit jambe was supposed to be overkill




Both zoro and sanji called king and queen our on pretending as if none of the attacks successfully landed.



With sanji's main issue with queen being how much of a damage sponge he is. Zoro's main issue with king being not knowing how his lunarian body works



Take away current zoro's conquerors haki and sanji ifrit jambe and they both still have all the tools they need to win
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That was made obvious on how easily they won with their PUs

Exo sanji =< Queen < IJ Sanji
Enma Zoro ~ King < EnOu Zoro

Sanji needed IJ to KO Queen. He stated that he ended more power.
Zoro didn't need coc to beat King. Never claimed any lack
 
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Salah WG

Salah WG

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#8
#8
First of all, Zoro didn't get Enma during King's Fight, He simply removed it's Nerf
Sanji on other hand acquired Exo during Queen's Fight which was his Power-Up
And this Exo allowed him to Unlock Ifrit Jambe
Zoro's Power-Up was Full CoA Release + Adv. CoC

Secondly, Sanji Pre-PU had 0 Chance against Queen, and even with Exo he can't win
Ifrit Jambe was 100% Needed (And it wasn't even a Mano a Mano Showdown at the End)

Zoro on other hand discovered how King's Defense works & once his Flames are Off, it's not like He is Tankier than Kaidou
So Zoro didn't need either of his Two-PUs, He simply was held down by Enma's Curse, Post-TS Zoro > King

So Overall:
Post-TS Zoro > King > Queen >> Post-TS Sanji

When we add every PU (CoA Release, Adv. CoC, Asura, Post-Mortem Awakening)
The Difference is Massive!
 
BleakAsh

BleakAsh

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#9
#9
True i think. Even exoskeleton was plot induced.. There was no real use for it except for Ifrit jambe and that vlade breaking moment to highlight his transformation

People forget combat arsenal matters and seeing how sanji didn't use the star shaped DJ which he was about use just in tbe previous arc and zoro use any old technique outside the PU
Like Rashomon, Ashura, DSS, Lepoard ETC

Just look at the fire power these lads have

Its BIZZARE coz its the same for sanji.. he has the star shapef DJ he used against Kraken which definitely is more potent than the grill shot he used against Queen just visually impact wise and it was 3000m underwater , he has Frit Assortie, Anti manner Kick course, THE REAL CONCASSE

its obvious ods wanted to minimize that diversity in AP if he really wanted to make it tough for them.

- handicap for zoro

- psychological ambiguity for snaji

There is no way King and Queen woukd win if Zoor and sanji really pulled out the big guns.
 
HeroesNZ

HeroesNZ

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#15
#15
Zoro absolutely needed ACoC because there wasn't a chance in hell he was putting King down before the medicine wore off without KOH.

King was doing great vs rooftop Zoro in both flame-on and flame-off modes so either way King was superior. Zoro's only chance would've been Asura, and who knows if one-shot would've been enough.

Sanji was still going even with Queen post-exoskeleton. He landed IJ on an off-guard Queen - without IJ, his strongest attack was HM which Queen already tanked. So Sanji definitely needed something stronger to put Queen down for good, and he was on his last legs seeing as he fainted immediately after. Without IJ, Queen may have simply outlasted Sanji.

Both power-ups were necessary.
 
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