General & Others Zoro Haters(not for Zoro haters)

What will the most common tactic to discredit ZKK by haters use going forward?


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#1
What do my fellow Zoro fans think will be the most popular route haters will take to discredit the fact Zoro killed Kaido? I tried to compile the most common excuses I have seen prepared thus far and these seem to be the big four excuses so to speak:

1) Enma did all the work.
2) Luffy did all the work.
3) ZKK only happened because Oda is a trash writer.
4) Kaido is super weak all of a sudden, since how else could Zoro kill him?

Will most people still cling to the idea that Odens spirit is hidden within Emma and did the deed for him? It has after all been a staple of the Zoro hater community for some time now.

Will it be that Luffy "softened Kaido up" for Zoro to be able to take him down? Most people have shown an extreme willingness to call the Kaido vs Luffy fight a fair one, despite the fact Luffy lost several times, Kaido had to fight multiple people, and had to lift a whole island up the entire time. But I somehow question people being as generous should Zoro kill Kaido.

Will they perhaps go down the route where they don't use in-universe excuses, but simply focus all their hate towards Oda being a trash author? A hugely popular tactic used by all haters and fans whenever Oda does something they do not like so it might be a bit to general i admit, but it is bound to be a rather popular excuse so I included it.

Or, my personal favorite, will Kaido suddenly become the weakest Yonko ever since Zoro killing him obviously must mean he is super weak? Whenever Zoro winds up doing a feat that was prior to him achieving it thought to be a truly impressive thing (Conquerors, Advanced Conquers, fighting and defeating a YC1 etc) for some weird reason people shit on that previously impressive thing. So, it is truly that crazy to think some people will not automatically downplay Kaido should Zoro kill him? I do not think so.

Several haters will likely leave out of shame, a couple have already bet their account on this after all, but the biggest haters will, as always, stick around. And just wanted some predictions from my fellow ZKK believers what they thought would be the favorite new excuse Zoro haters use going forward why him killing Kaido is not important, impressive and or earned.

A bonus question for ZKK believers: do you personally look forward to the feat itself more, or the sheer amount of cope and cringe coming from the haters?
 
#7
If Zoro by any chance manages to kill kaido (not gonna happen)

Then both options are actually true.

1 - Zoro needs enma

2 - Luffy would have already defeated Kaido

3 - Oda is trash anyway

4 - Kaido will be weak cause Luffy already beat the shit out of him
Is Kaido less durable in that candy head of yours, only Zoro can kill Kaido, others struggle to scratch shitters like Queen.
 
#8
A combination of the excuses you said are all probably going to be used :risitameh:

We've seen how they called Rooftop fanservice only because Zoro was in it so they won't hesitate to trash Oda despite all the foreshadowing for ZKK. Or how they called King & Hakai weak so Kaido will fit in well. Or how they keep using Enma & Oden's Haki when Oda already debunked that.

So just expect the same bullshit they always use if they stick around that is.
 
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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#10
I genuinely think that many of them are really unaware of Zoro's potential because they are condescending and pretentious enough to prejudge Zoro as a weakling because of their in built biased anti Zoro agenda
 

Warchief Sanji D Goat

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#11
I'd say all the options in the poll but the most popular strategy uses to downplay ZKK that I've seen so far would be magic sword Enma. Like if ZKK happens, y'all either have to accept it like a man or drops OP and go on.
 
#13
Luffy fought kaido the longest, made him go all out, and pushed him to drop onigashima. If ZKK happens, it will basically be Zoro pulling a blackbeard.
Kaido is still using dragon form, the "jobber" form that everyone can shit on or so we were told to discredit any feat against it, also Onigashima is the only reason for Kaido to be tired, we saw something similar in Dressarosa with Fuji huffing after lifting the whole country. Who doesn't remember the G3 Luffy is Admiral level agenda back then.
 
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#14
They are gonna say "anyone could've done it"

just like they did with Hakkai

I'm telling you right now, if ZKK happens

i will give it 1 week until wee see threads about how Sanji could've done it
 
#15
Kaido is still using dragon form, the "jobber" form that everyone can shit on or so we were told to discredit any feat against it, also Onigashima is the only reason for Kaido to be tired, we saw something similar in Dressarosa with Fuji huffing after lifting the whole country. Who doesn't remember the G3 Luffy is Admiral level agenda back then.
Dragon form just gives kaido different abilities from hybrid from, it doesn't inherently mean he is fighting any less seriously. Luffy grabbed kaido and flew into the clouds. Hitting luffy's arm with a club didn't seem to do any real damage, so kaido instead went dragon form to use wind slashes and boro breath to target Luffy. Hybrid form doesn't have good long ranged AP like dragon form.
 
#16
I say number 4 is correct on story wise in future. Luffy beat up kaido, then zoro kill kaido for good.

meanwhile zoro will fight Shyrui, milhawk, and kizar which foes are even stronger and give zoro a harder times and zoro getting stronger every arc.

After wano arc is over, no one care about kaido, like he is less popular than merry go ship on 2021 poll despite having more screen time than any villain of one piece. A crocodile is more popular than him.
 
#18
Killing a half-dead Kaido isnt really impressive tho. Theres really nothing to downplay.

Tho it is impressive to predict ZKK happening. And Zoro fans would deserve praise for it. Similarly they deserve to be dragged through the mud if it doesnt happen.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#19
Killing a half-dead Kaido isnt really impressive tho. Theres really nothing to downplay.

Tho it is impressive to predict ZKK happening. And Zoro fans would deserve praise for it. Similarly they deserve to be dragged through the mud if it doesnt happen.
Who told you he will be half dead? That's all to be established :cheers:

And still what did Sanjino do instead? Can he kill a half dead Kaido?
 
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