Questions & Mysteries The warlords are the losers of their generation

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stealthblack

#1
crocodile, doflamingo, buggy, mihawk, moria are the losers that bended their will to yonkous, while yonkous like shanks, kaidou are the winners and this will transpire to the worst generation of supernovas

the 11 are 4 yonkous+ 7 walords equivalent, with 4 of them becoming the best pirates and the other 7 bending their will to them like zoro, kamazo
 
#4
Doubt
- Doflamingo was the most important broker in the Underworld, had a Kingdom and a crime family under his name
- Mihawks is the WSS
- Boa has what she wanst, an island composed of all women of which she's empress

These 2 fought an Emperor and went back to Paradise
- Crocodile is not exactly a loser since he was one of the bosses of the Paradise, but at the end of the day he's a cheap version of Doffy, even if I like him a lot
- Moria is a loser yeah

So no, is not composed of losers, is composed of different pirates with different backgrounds, that's it
 
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Jo_Ndule

#6
crocodile, doflamingo, buggy, mihawk, moria are the losers that bended their will to yonkous, while yonkous like shanks, kaidou are the winners and this will transpire to the worst generation of supernovas

the 11 are 4 yonkous+ 7 walords equivalent, with 4 of them becoming the best pirates and the other 7 bending their will to them like zoro, kamazo
Anybody knew Original Warlords are second to Yonko, who either Lost to Yonko or couldn't become Great Pirates they joined WG or work under/for Yonko.

Croco lost to WB
Jinbei lost to Ace as warlord. (Also became warlord his reasons) worked for Linlin.
Moriah lost to Kaido

Mihawk matched Young Shanks
Doffy worked for Kaido ( and he was also running away from Tsuru.)
Hancock didn't peak yet but she only warlord for her country's safety.
Kuma had his own reasons.

That's why none of them lived in NW as warlord except Doffy... suprisely Doffy has CoC and in his peak unlike Hancock who didn't peak yet.
You can't really call Doffy a loser like the rest coz he's top 5 major pirate in influence.
Mihawk is WSS but never had uppercase over shanks and isn't grouped with Lehendary Great ones . Soon he'll join Shanks.

Kaido and Shanks are the only midgen to be Great Pirates.

Top Worstgen replaces top old/mid gen as Yonko. Other SNs are like warlords :

WB : Teach took his spot
Kaido : Luffy (if Law doesn't become Great Pirate)
Linlin : Katakuri
Shanks : Kidd will take his spot.

Doffy : Law

WSS Mihawk : Zoro
Kuma : Killer... tyrant/soldier
Hancock : Bonney

Jinbei : Urouge... Sky/Sea
Moriah : Apoo
Crocodile: Hawkins
 
#10
Once again, generalizing Shichibukai does not work, to some of them it definitely fits (Croc, Moria), to some it does not.

1) Croc and Moria were beaten, they learned that for them there is an unreachable wall (Yonkou) and got broken as consequence, being only shells of their former self. Went back to Paradise, a sea in which they belong to the strongest ones regardless, and sought alternative ways to power, Moria with relying on zombies, Croc on Ancient Weapon.

2) Doflamingo had the same goal (it´s no coincidence DD, Croc and Moria were shown during Roger´s execution, they adopted the Pirate King goal, albeit with a different interpretation than Roger), also understood he can´t overcome the Yonkou on an individual basis without even fighting them, hence tried sneakier ways to do it.

3) Kuma is Shichibukai by force, he was not a pirate in the first place but a Revo and king, until he was made an example of for disobedience.

4) Hancock has no interest in the New World and Pirate King, she became a Shichibukai to protect Amazon Lily since what they were protected by in the past, meaning Calm Belt, was not working anymore due to Marines´ new technology.

5) Jinbe became a Shichibukai to improve the relationship between fishmen and humans/World Government, to fulfill Otohime´s and Fisher Tiger´s wishes, he had no interest in PK and New World until Luffy came along.

6) Mihawk´s reason for joining is still unknown. Anybody´s guess, mine would be to chill without constantly getting disturbed, similarly to Hancock. He did not lose against Shanks, and has not met Whitebeard, no idea about BM and Kaidou.

Buggy is clear. Blackbeard became one to fulfill his plan. Weevil due to his mother who is money hungry. Law followed his plan.
 
#16
Shichibukai are clearly separated into categories

1. Those who who don't care about Yonko ---> Hancock & Kuma ---> Neutrals
2. Those who decided to work under Yonko ---> Doflamingo & Jinbe ---> Losers
3. Those who decided to fight Yonko ---> Crocodile & Moriah ---> Losers who still want to be Winners
4. Those who Rival Yonko ---> Mihawk & Teach ---> Winners
 
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