Powers & Abilities Kid and Killer Do not have Ryou
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Killer has barrier/repel or whatever. Oda didnt even say Killer lacks barrier/repel... or else you'd have to agree Zoro also lacks it.
Both did nothing to Kaido except feel pain
"But he failed to cut Kaido's neck" so did Raizou and the rest. Even Oden wanted to cut his head but ended up cutting the side
Kidd relies on his force
The only thing confirmed is that nobody has Penetration on the roof except Luffy.
Zoro doesnt have it, Kid doesn't, Killer doesn't, law doesn't but has his hax skills.
Like I said prior, kidd issue was never ryuo but more power.
"How will they hurt Kaido' they already did
If you mean real damage? Then ask how will zoro also hurt kaido...
So far nobody made kaido bleed on that roof except Luffy
Both did nothing to Kaido except feel pain
"But he failed to cut Kaido's neck" so did Raizou and the rest. Even Oden wanted to cut his head but ended up cutting the side
Kidd relies on his force
The only thing confirmed is that nobody has Penetration on the roof except Luffy.
Zoro doesnt have it, Kid doesn't, Killer doesn't, law doesn't but has his hax skills.
Like I said prior, kidd issue was never ryuo but more power.
"How will they hurt Kaido' they already did
If you mean real damage? Then ask how will zoro also hurt kaido...
So far nobody made kaido bleed on that roof except Luffy
I define hax as anything that has an immeasurable effect
Like Law's teleportation is a hax because its literally transcending time and space instantly. You cant measure it. Whereas even Kizaru's movement speed being light speed isnt hax because you can measure it, its light speed.
So for example for Advanced Armament to not be hax it would require a measurable difference in its effect. maybe it can ignore SOME durability and not ALL durability. If it was some durability then that means there's a possible progression. you can climb the ladder of what durability is ignored steadily as you go and so you can measure it.
But advanced armament as it is, ignores ALL durability plain and simple. i say this because there's a remarkable difference between Luffy's Kong organ doing exactly NOTHING to kaido versus Kiku stabbing through kaido. The difference shows that just having advanced armament immeditely lets you bypass the need for mesurable progression is as far as durability is concerned. and with no measurable progression, you have hax. Hence durability ignoring is just hax in this case
Like Law's teleportation is a hax because its literally transcending time and space instantly. You cant measure it. Whereas even Kizaru's movement speed being light speed isnt hax because you can measure it, its light speed.
So for example for Advanced Armament to not be hax it would require a measurable difference in its effect. maybe it can ignore SOME durability and not ALL durability. If it was some durability then that means there's a possible progression. you can climb the ladder of what durability is ignored steadily as you go and so you can measure it.
But advanced armament as it is, ignores ALL durability plain and simple. i say this because there's a remarkable difference between Luffy's Kong organ doing exactly NOTHING to kaido versus Kiku stabbing through kaido. The difference shows that just having advanced armament immeditely lets you bypass the need for mesurable progression is as far as durability is concerned. and with no measurable progression, you have hax. Hence durability ignoring is just hax in this case
I would wait before ascertaining that adv CoA can ignore all durability.
Akainu's magma was also stated to feature the capability of nullifying any durability, but then haki kicked in despite Shanks' haki on the sword was not possible to be spotted at that time.
I think just like Law's GK, we can't expect it to be totally invincible before time despite GK was seemingly portrayed to bypass dura.
We can at least posit all of these things however so postulating them is causing no harm.
Akainu's magma was also stated to feature the capability of nullifying any durability, but then haki kicked in despite Shanks' haki on the sword was not possible to be spotted at that time.
I think just like Law's GK, we can't expect it to be totally invincible before time despite GK was seemingly portrayed to bypass dura.
We can at least posit all of these things however so postulating them is causing no harm.
I am sure “nullify” was not used
Magma burns. Burning by definition is a physical process that can be measured.
the word “nullify” means something WAY STRONGER than Burning and so I’m damn sure that word wasn’t used
wheareas with Advanced armament the word “Bypass” is used and yup, bypass is as strong a word as “nullify”
@Finalbeta Also GK being able to bypass durability isn’t a problem because it’s not actually a strong ability... I mean Doffy’s organs got cut up but I’m pretty sure Kaido’s organs are also just stronger than Doffy’s and Kaido has better endurance and Kaido has a Zoan healing factor. All these would make GK basically as useful as Kyoshiro running a full sword clean through Kaido. His organs were obviously pierced by Kaido but his healing factor and Endurance made it seem like nothing happened
Magma burns. Burning by definition is a physical process that can be measured.
the word “nullify” means something WAY STRONGER than Burning and so I’m damn sure that word wasn’t used
wheareas with Advanced armament the word “Bypass” is used and yup, bypass is as strong a word as “nullify”
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@Finalbeta Also GK being able to bypass durability isn’t a problem because it’s not actually a strong ability... I mean Doffy’s organs got cut up but I’m pretty sure Kaido’s organs are also just stronger than Doffy’s and Kaido has better endurance and Kaido has a Zoan healing factor. All these would make GK basically as useful as Kyoshiro running a full sword clean through Kaido. His organs were obviously pierced by Kaido but his healing factor and Endurance made it seem like nothing happened
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Kaido screams in pain after being slammed.
Says they are all bypassing his dura after SN trio attacked.
You "kidd didn't do anything "
Just take your L since you like acting like you know better
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He's gonna say "Kaido didn't have white eyes or bleed so kidd did nothing"
Even tho Kaido's head was slammed into the ground, we couldn't see his face but we know he was hurt per his scream and own words afterwards
They both have Ryou. Ryou = CoA.
They don't have barrier or internal Haki, which in case for Killer it doesn't matter. Remember that none of BMP have even Barrier, is not that common.
And Kidd has a devil fruit, so it doesn't matter since for that purpose devil fruit users have "magical" powers, author can exploit that aspect.
They don't have barrier or internal Haki, which in case for Killer it doesn't matter. Remember that none of BMP have even Barrier, is not that common.
And Kidd has a devil fruit, so it doesn't matter since for that purpose devil fruit users have "magical" powers, author can exploit that aspect.