Character Discussion What are your thoughts on Kid so far during the roof battle?

A right hand man doesn't force you to babysit him after blowing his load. Luffy is more like Zoro's hemorrhoid
I guess Luffy is more like Zoro's chef, musician etc. A hostage crew member who is there to do important side job and needs to be protected by warrior of the crew.
Kinda like how Zoro protected Sanji in Thriller Bark saying "It is warrior's job to protect"
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
Dig for it, you will find it, not exactly said like this, but inside the message, i said this and i still stick to it.
Luffy > Kid > Law > Zoro > Killer

And oda exactly underlines that fact right now and since the beginning of the Rooftop fight. It begann with Killer getting his time to shine. Next came, now, Zoro. Next one will be Law and at the end, there will be the clash of the 4 CoC-User and the end fight. Why do you think Oda gave Kid CoC? You underestimate him pretty much.
Zoro has shown the least of the Supernova on the Rooftop:
  • His only successful attack was a mid tier attack
    • His high tier attack Hiryuu Kaen was dodged
    • He has other high tier attacks (1080 Pound Cannon, Nigori-Zake)
    • He still hasn't shown any top tier attacks (Rokudo no Tsuji, Sanzen Sekai, Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai)
  • He hasn't shown Asura
  • He has been near exclusively babysitting Luffy
  • He's only overflowing hardening through Enma now
    • He may add it to his other swords later


When did that happen ?
It began with luffy doing red roc

The rest doing minimal damage if at all
Zoro shitting them up
Luffy smashing kaido
Then zoro cutting kaido


Killer hasnt done anything more or less than kidd or law which is near enough nothing.
"Vexing" is a lot better than the mere "tricks" Gamma Knife, Kong Rifle and Slam Gibson got.

Killer folded Kaido up like a sashimi:


Killer's attack also had some blood on Kaido's mouth and stunned him for a bit:


Give him his due credit.
:catrude:


@rerere, @ReggieZoldyck21: I give Killer the recognition he deserves.
 

Cinera

𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐌𝐚𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧𝐧𝐲 𝐏𝐞𝐭
His fighting style just isn't suited for Kaido.
Who's the strongest character you think Kidd can beat?



So i see the steps here. Killer -> Zoro -> Law -> Kid + Luffy COC-
As I keep telling you, Zoro has shown the least of the Rooftop Supernova:
  • His only successful attack was a mid tier attack
    • His high tier attack Hiryuu Kaen was dodged
    • He has other high tier attacks (1080 Pound Cannon, Nigori-Zake)
    • He still hasn't shown any top tier attacks (Rokudo no Tsuji, Sanzen Sekai, Ichidai Sanzen Daisen Sekai)
  • He hasn't shown Asura
  • He has been near exclusively babysitting Luffy
  • He's only overflowing hardening through Enma now
    • He may add it to his other swords later

Cause Oda portrayed him as rival to Luffy. Take the simplest of the simple facts we have so far: Kid has CoC, confirmed by Kaido. Only this already puts him into some elite-group. Oda is hyping this shit for a reason.

And you do a mistake here, Zoro is not one of "the two main characters". The MC is Luffy. Luffy on his own. Not Zoro, not Kid, not Sanji, not Kaido.... Its Luffy. You can argue that Oda isnt taking simply "one MC", but then it would count the whole crew. Which was kinda a fact before time skip, but since there, its absolutely clear there is only one MC and this is Luffy. Every other character is a supporting character storywise. Including Zoro and Kid.
  • Oda said Luffy, Zoro and Nami are the tree triggers of One Piece.
  • Wano is Zoro's character arc.
    • He inherited Oden's sword (and thus his unfulfilled will).
    • He's a Shimotsuki, a descendant of a clan loyal to the Kozuki and of the lineage of Ryuma.
    • One of the arc princesses (Hiyori) begged him to save Wano while crying into his chest.
    • He'll be recognised as the Second Coming of Ryuma.

What does the M stand for?
The "Midd" represents "mid" as in "medium". They're saying he's been nothing special so far.

You do, too bad you don't do the same with Kidd
Killer impressed me with Sonic Scyther. Kidd hasn't yet.

Sonic Scyther was treated better than all other attacks bar Luffy and Zoro's, so I acknowledge that.
 
H

Haoshoku

He could be doing far better, that’s for sure.

First off, Kid finding his own way to damage Kaido is a route I like Oda taking. Instead of just handing him ryou like everybody else, putting his fruit to good use is a far better utilization of his overall abilities. It also gives Oda considerable room to get creative with his fruit to find ways for him to be effective. I don’t expect things to just be limited to compression, there’s far more Oda can draw from with magnetism related abilities than just ferromagnetic compression that would easily cause internal damage, or bypass Kaido’s durability.

On the flipside though, Kid has been doing perhaps the least outta the 5 when it comes to inducing any meaningful damage on Kaido. Oda didn’t waste a step in abandoning Kid’s idea to compress/compact Kaido to death as soon as he brought it up. Because Kid just went full Undertaker on Kaido and just started body slamming him to the ground in 1002. An impressive display of his physical power in Punk Rotten, but its not effective it doesn’t do much of anything in comparison to what the other 4 have been doing. Shit makes me wonder why Oda thinks Kid slamming Kaido to the ground was better than having him put more magnetism related abilities to use, like his Punk Vise. His fruit has a lot of untapped potential that Oda could draw from but instead mans thought going Wrestlemania was a good idea lmao.

Tho it’s still admittedly very early, its only been 3 chapters. It’s for these reasons that I think Kid will get his moments to shine in due time. But yeah Oda could definitely have him doing better to open up this fight.
 
So far - Disappointment.

But i believe he's been saved. This Kaidou fight will last long. Zoro n Killer might hit the dust fast, hence there showings have been good so far.

Else it make no sense Killer performance being better than Kidd.
 
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