Powers & Abilities Oden or Linlin

Who would win

  • Oden

    Votes: 7 11.3%
  • BigMom

    Votes: 55 88.7%

  • Total voters
    62
#24
Yes I see it, we should wait to see how he did it back then, but if you are right and your theory became true, Oden would be indeed a country lvl character.

But one detail with you should know, Oden was 20 years old when he did the things with the river.
In the current flashback he is 18 and still in flower capital, in chapter 920 he was 20 years old when he did the thing with the rivers cut and the other things.
nope, Kinemons said, oden did all the things all while being below 20 years old...which means it could've happened at age 1-19 but as chapter 960 mentioned, Wano was suffering from extreme drought and then Oden made rivers at age 14, which relates to exact same claim that kinemon made about Oden Cutting Rivers
 
#25
Well yeah Countries' sizes do differ... but Oden also likely cut a river way one at a Time, if you check the map https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/463/690/1b2.png you can see the rivers are cut in straight line, indicating a possible Sword Slash and Kinemon specifically mentioned Oden Cut rivers in Wano https://i4.mangapanda.com/one-piece/920/one-piece-11385001.jpg and all that while he was just 14 years old as mentiones this chapter....so yeah if he has done that at that age then he has the biggest feat of all
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a 4 year old Oden Crushed bear with boulder..you are just being biased by saying nowhere near comparable
Yes with a boulder, the weight of the boulder doing the crushing.

Big mom gave the a bear small smack and it ended up 1 shotting a huge ass bear. Then she grabbed a legendary giant by the hair and flipped him over hard, 1-shotting him.

BM was then nicknamed the God of Destruction, at the age of 5.

Not really seeing how the two are comparable.
 
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#27
If Queen can crack her skull, imagine what the guy who scarred Kaido would do to her.

Big Mom might win but she’s at risk of getting one shot.
Yeah right
BM didn't lose to kaido the wsc
But oden will beat BM coz he scarred a weaker kaido.

Also oden has no chance anyway of winning

You can spam that argument of yours but will never work
 
#29
Yes with a boulder, the weight of the boulder doing the crushing.

Big mom gave the a bear small smack and it ended up 1 shotting a huge ass bear. Then she grabbed a legendary giant by the hair and flipped him over hard, 1-shotting him.

BM was then nicknamed the God of Destruction, at the age of 5.

Not really seeing how the two are comparable.
yes you are being biased by saying nowhere near comparable, only reason you are looking down on Oden is getting killed and being under WB or Roger.... I have no other reason to compare their feats except what was shown in Manga, you belittling Oden's Feats and hyping BM...
Yes at age 5 BigMom Smacked a bear to death (there is no small smack there, you clearly just trying to hype her, she was enraged since the bear had killed Mr. Wolf ), ok now tell me didn't you see How big was BigMom at age 5, he was likely much bigger than the bear probably twice or more than its weight and so yes she smacked something half of her size/weight to death.....
then she grabbed a likely 10 times bigger than herself giant and smacked her true, but the legendary giant you are talking was likely as feeble as Hyogoro is now compared to his prime...
ok now what Oden did,
Oden Crushed a bear with boulder at age 4 while being more than twice smaller than a bear he was able to Crush a bear with throwing a large boulder, can you not imagine the weight of the same large boulder that is able to crush a bear by throwing it at bear, how much strength would it need to crush a bear with it but you are ignoring that and expecting the exact same thing to happen while the differences in sizes was 4 times or more.....what makes you think Oden couldn't smack kill a bear half his own size (if the strength of both bear bm and oden remained same)
and Smacking the giant, ask yourself, how big is a normal human to a baby less than a year old, a normal human is much more bigger than 10 times of a baby less than a year old, but Oden while not even being one year old hurled an adult away, so why should BM's feat be different than the Feat of Oden as a baby
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#30
Baseless.


He was probably already a top tier.

Just like the Solo King.



Lol no. He flung a full grown adult across the room before he was a year old.


Damn, this is insane. Link to your theory please.
haha, I don't post theories though....I did so a few years back but not recently ... this is all I've posted about Oden's strength here :p
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out of countless theories, I had a few Bullseye as well, one of them Oden being Second Division commander of WBP haha :p
 
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#31
Lol no. He flung a full grown adult across the room before he was a year old.
Yeah, it's crazy, just like the rabbit catching thing, but his bear killing feat and in general those feats are things that lowbob pirates with bounties under 15million or Marines below captain rank can do aswell, therefore -> trained adult's power in a child's body. Incredible for those ages obviously, but still pales in comparison to "beating a town full of giants" or having hax durability/ph strength>to a giant with 5.

Well yeah Countries' sizes do differ... but Oden also likely cut a river way one at a Time, if you check the map https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/463/690/1b2.png you can see the rivers are cut in straight line, indicating a possible Sword Slash and Kinemon specifically mentioned Oden Cut rivers in Wano https://i4.mangapanda.com/one-piece/920/one-piece-11385001.jpg and all that while he was just 14 years old as mentiones this chapter....so yeah if he has done that at that age then he has the biggest feat of all
Yeah, if that's true than this is definitely one of the craziest feats in verse. It's not even that unlikely tho. If he grew up with Enma and had control over it with 14, while he's an absolute physical specimen with CoC anyway, it might actually be "explainable".
 

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#34
Oden is a fking beast (and i like him way more than BM) imho he is in the middle between Yonkos and Admirals but BM is sure above him
 
#37
What Makes you guys not think that Oden could've actually defeated Kaido, if we consider how Orochi was told to have defeated Oden (not Kaido) and how Kaido is giving him so much importance letting him rule Wano...Kaido was already stated to be defeated 7 times so maybe that huge scar actually caused his defeat and after that Orochi who might've been on Oden's side backstabbed/poisoned Oden and killed him and thus made contribute in Oden's downfall and so Kaido gave him the shogun position
 
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#38
What Makes you guys not think that Oden could've actually defeated Kaido, if we consider how Orochi was told to have defeated Oden (not Kaido) and how Kaido is giving him so much importance letting him rule Wano...Kaido was already stated to be defeated 7 times so maybe that huge scar actually caused his defeat and after that Orochi who might've been on Oden's side backstabbed/poisoned Oden and killed him and thus made contribute in Oden's downfall and so Kaido gave him the shogun position
:tchpepe: So Kaido dudnt beat oden
But They say his head is untouched for 20 years
Shuten keeps wanting to fight him not orochi

If oden won why would any of them not say it b
 
#39
:tchpepe: So Kaido dudnt beat oden
But They say his head is untouched for 20 years
Shuten keeps wanting to fight him not orochi

If oden won why would any of them not say it b
yeah they want to kill Kaido, Momonosuke also wants his head....but then again that same thing brings up the question, why is Orochi the Shogun then if Kaido did everything.... Kaido's head is unclaimed for 20 years but Incident of Oden occured 20 years ago....Honestly that scar wound on Kaido is big enough and should be Critical enough to make characters at least Fall/stop moving if not getting defeated.... and so shouldn't it give us the benefit of doubt..... Shuten and Momo wants Kaido cause they know whether they kill orochi or not the country will not be secure untill Kaido Falls
 
#40
Oden is nice but his feats are more comparable to what I’d expect the vinz kid’s bar Sanji to be capable of imo, which is still pretty impressive for a regular human but I think Lilin is in a different league strength wise. She had strength exceeding even that of the giants as a Kid. You can generalize both as superhuman kids but Lilin exceeded even that, she was a monstrosity.
 
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