Character Discussion ZorovSanjivOda

[imacub]

I made a meme about this

nothing but fact

 

[LolonoisZolo]

99% of the threads here are about zoro and sanji and im sick of it
Its 2021
This shit is so old
I know I know me saying im sick of zoro and sanji and then talk about zoro and sanji makes no sense

but bear with me
Im probably one of the few here that actually enjoy the both of them
So I believe I can make more sense than either of their sides

which side is the worst?

The first side is sanji’s

There’s no doubt that at on point oda was planning to have zoro and sanji to be nigh equal, as in if they fought zoro would need extreme diff to beat sanji and sanji could possibly beat zoro once or twice,
And the prove is the parallel with the two giants in little garden and the 20 douroki (only 2 regular marine soldiers) differnce between kaku and jabura

BUT

It’s clear as day that oda has changed his mind since the strawhats seperation
I mean when he gave zoro mihawk and sanji a bunch of drag queens
It’s obvious
And it became even more obvious since the start of the time skip sanji has many weak moments (vergo doffy judge ) while zoro has been protected and rarely if ever looks week

So in oda’s mind CLEARLY zoro>sanji
Then why sanji’s fans keep attacking zoro’s whenever zoro has a bad moment???
Why they think that he’s stronger than zoro or even his equal????
are they really that delusional or it’s just frustration that sanji will always be behind zoro ??

sanji’s fans need to learn 2 things
1st sanji will always be behind zoro , this is oda’s story and that’s what he decided.
2nd sanji being below zoro doesn’t mean he’s weak , that doesn’t take anything away from sanji., sanji is still incredibly strong and will get even stronger after all he’s the left hand of the future pirate king .

The zoro’s side

as stated zoro>sanji is a fact
So why are zoro’s fans keep attacking sanji’s?
Is it because sanji’s fans always trying to put him and zoro together to make sanji looks good by association and they feel this will drag zoro down?
so what?

zoro’s fans always try to keep associate zoro with luffy
But I don’t see luffy’s fans attacking zoro

is it insecurity?? Or it’s just simple trolling?
I think both honestly
Judging from what I have seen here
Zoro’s fans are just childish trolls
They think they’re accomplishing something by trolling sanji’s fans

but they also don’t believe enough in zoro
Other wise they wouldn’t care

Again look at luffy’s fans they couldn’t care less if zoro’s fans said he’s stronger or equal to luffy .
Because unlike zoro’s fans they have enough confidence in luffy and that’s enough for them.

zoro’s fans need to learn one thing

GROW UP


third side is oda
For not only starting this whole mess and changing his mind in the middle but for also always keeping this dumb feud alive by adding flame to it .

very ironic that the most childish character (luffy) has the most grown up fans. At least compared to zoro’s and sanji’s.

I enjoyed reading the post and mostly agree with it.
There's one thing though; it isn't fair to compare ''Zoro fans'' to ''Luffy fans''.
Zoro is probably the most ''attacked'' character by pretty much every other fandom except Mihawk's (yes I'm talking about @Den_Den_Mushi lol)
Anything he does post skip gets downplayed, any opponent he fought is considered weak-_-, and any feat he accomplishes gets brushed as some weak ass luck...
Knowing this I think you could cut ''Zoro fans'' some slack.
On the other hand, Luffy is the MC...nuff said
Great post otherwise

 

[Finalbeta]

nothing but fact

Oda is too stronk for us.

The only time I came close is when I claimed that Current Zoro's Silver Mist would have been capable to turn Thunder Bagua into Mist and this is something I claimed before 1001 or even 1000 IIRC.

 

[Chrono]

Sanji still negs Zoro and extreme diffs Oda

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji still negs Zoro and extreme diffs Oda

This ain't MasterChef.

 

[Kromage911]

For not only starting this whole mess and changing his mind in the middle but for also always keeping this dumb feud alive by adding flame to it .

He just wants to watch the fandom burn, lol. No really, Zoro vs Sanji is literally 90% of what the fans talk about these days and what is keeping the One Piece sales still alive.

 

[Doggo]

From the superfan side,

Previous Chapters: Zoro vs Queen, Zoro vs Kanjuro, Zoro vs Who's Who, Zoro is weak compared to Apoo. Zoro weaker than Beetle Gifter, Killer is Super Duper Nerfed Pleasure. Got quite the list

Ch 997: Sneak Attack

Ch 1001: It's Debree
Ch 1002: Kaido did not move and Zoro flat out missed
Ch 1003: Oden's Haki

Here's what I thought:
997: meh, another one shot out of nowhere.
1000: Oh cool, so he's gonna fight the yonkos now. Probably no ZvsKing then.
1001: Ok. Hit him together with Killer. Ok. This "need to release more Enma" is trash. fuck this sword and Oden.
1002: "That's not an ordinary SWORD". Oh ffs. At least the panel was cool.
1003: Again with this Enma wank? For real? At least it seems to be toned down.... He's probably going to open the scar during Luffy's cooldown.

What I saw:
997: OGMOGMOGOGOMGOMGOMGOMOGMOGOGMOGOGOGMGOMG ONE SHOT APPOOO!!!!
1000: OMGOGMOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGM ZOWO ON THE ROOF! FUCK CANDIBOIS! LMAO! SANJI VS PAGEONE!!! LMAOOOOOOOO
1001: OMGOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOM ZORO MADE KAIDO BLEED. OMGOGMMGOGMMGOMGMOG TOP SUPERNOVA ON THE ROOF.
1002: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGOM HE MADE KAIDO DODGE. YONKOS SHITTING THEMSELVES AGAINST ZOWO. CREATE THREAD "ZORO HAS THE BEST FEAT ON THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF ALL FICTION, AND IT'S KINDA NUTTY". "WHY ZOWO>>>>PRIME ROGER".
1003: OMGOGMOGMOGMOGOMGOM ZOWO CARRYING THE ROOF. LUFFY TRASH CANT EVEN MAINTAIN GEAR4. ZOWO BUILT DIFFERENT. KIDD TRASH. LAW TRASH. KILLER TRASH. ONLY ZOWO IS ABOVE ALL. OMGOMGOMGOMGOM LMAAAAOOOOO.


How the heck do people not expect someone to mock this kind of wank?
It's kinda mandatory.

I too was a young grasshopper who got overly hyped with feats from my favorite characters. But the things I see here, beat me and my childhood friends' overhyped expectations by a fucking mile. Not even a contest.
I will never forget the "our fandom has beat your fandom" that someone sent me. It was peak comedy, especially because it was a serious comment.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

I wouldn’t say ironic
Just a stupid logic
But you’re 16 so........

You are on tbe internet trying to tell 16 year olds to grow up because they are joking around talking about a manga

I think you need to grow up and not take this too seriously and stop trying to act "grown up" so you can feel better about your life.

 

[Kromage911]

They literally don't even allow that conversation to even grow. Look at Reddit or even here. Luffy fans are one of the most staunch downplayers of Zoro

Doesn't even close to how much Sanji is downplayed by Zoro stans, especially in this forum. Though I myself say that Zoro is downplayed a lot outside this forum.

 

[bennbeckman]

Here's what I thought:
997: meh, another one shot out of nowhere.
1000: Oh cool, so he's gonna fight the yonkos now. Probably no ZvsKing then.
1001: Ok. Hit him together with Killer. Ok. This "need to release more Enma" is trash. fuck this sword and Oden.
1002: "That's not an ordinary SWORD". Oh ffs. At least the panel was cool.
1003: Again with this Enma wank? For real? At least it seems to be toned down.... He's probably going to open the scar during Luffy's cooldown.

What I saw:
997: OGMOGMOGOGOMGOMGOMGOMOGMOGOGMOGOGOGMGOMG ONE SHOT APPOOO!!!!
1000: OMGOGMOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMOGM ZOWO ON THE ROOF! FUCK CANDIBOIS! LMAO! SANJI VS PAGEONE!!! LMAOOOOOOOO
1001: OMGOGMOMGOMGOMGOMGOM ZORO MADE KAIDO BLEED. OMGOGMMGOGMMGOMGMOG TOP SUPERNOVA ON THE ROOF.
1002: OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOGOM HE MADE KAIDO DODGE. YONKOS SHITTING THEMSELVES AGAINST ZOWO. CREATE THREAD "ZORO HAS THE BEST FEAT ON THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF ALL FICTION, AND IT'S KINDA NUTTY". "WHY ZOWO>>>>PRIME ROGER".
1003: OMGOGMOGMOGMOGOMGOM ZOWO CARRYING THE ROOF. LUFFY TRASH CANT EVEN MAINTAIN GEAR4. ZOWO BUILT DIFFERENT. KIDD TRASH. LAW TRASH. KILLER TRASH. ONLY ZOWO IS ABOVE ALL. OMGOMGOMGOMGOM LMAAAAOOOOO.


How the heck do people not expect someone to mock this kind of wank?
It's kinda mandatory.

I too was a young grasshopper who got overly hyped with feats from my favorite characters. But the things I see here, beat me and my childhood friends' overhyped expectations by a fucking mile. Not even a contest.
I will never forget the "our fandom has beat your fandom" that someone sent me. It was peak comedy, especially because it was a serious comment.

To be fair you constantly look to shit on Zoro. The proof is in the pudding. But to also be fair it could very well be you are more annoyed with fandom which I totally get, because I do the same thing with Sanji, they hypcrisy is usually in plain site so it's easy for me to mock

Also for me to say Zoro fans dont do this is blasphemy, both fandoms do this.

Those Zoro moments are hype, it's just the mandatory I have to attack any little thing Zoro does hype, and on top of that all the predictions that were just wrong.... like completely fucking wrong about Zoro were even more amazing

Those same people use 1004 to Hype up Sanji. Like someone explain to me how getting caught in a web by a flying 6 fighter is any hype of Sanji's ability. He can't kick woman, great, so he was too damn slow to get away from them

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

Sanji doesnt get downplayed hes just inferior to Zoro and thats the truth.
Zoro fan base is the biggest after luffys fanbase and outside the forum. The only reason it seems sometimes like zoro is being downplayed is because some insecure luffy fans join the downplay.
Either way like i said sanji simply not on Zoros league hes not close to zoro its just the truth.

 

[bennbeckman]

Sanji doesnt get downplayed hes just inferior to Zoro and thats the truth.
Zoro fan base is the biggest after luffys fanbase and outside the forum. The only reason it seems sometimes like zoro is being downplayed is because some insecure luffy fans join the downplay.
Either way like i said sanji simply not on Zoros league hes not close to zoro its just the truth.

The biggest issue with Zoro, as a Zoroboiiii. Is there is nothing to really compare Zoro's strength to because he has never been near the brink of losing.

Sanji on the other hand has lost twice, as well as had difficulties with Vergo. So it's much easier to judge (no pun intended) his level of strength

 

[ShishioIsBack]

There’s no doubt that at on point oda was planning to have zoro and sanji to be nigh equal, as in if they fought zoro would need extreme diff

Stopped reading here
Your reading comprehension ability is that of a gold fish.

Zoro stomps Sanji, then now and forever and this is coming from biggest Sanji diehard fanboy on the forum q

 

[Kromage911]

Sanji doesnt get downplayed hes just inferior to Zoro and thats the truth.
Zoro fan base is the biggest after luffys fanbase and outside the forum. The only reason it seems sometimes like zoro is being downplayed is because some insecure luffy fans join the downplay.
Either way like i said sanji simply not on Zoros league hes not close to zoro its just the truth.

Sanji is inferior to Zoro and 90% of Sanji fans get that. The problem is when Zoro stans say shit like Zoro neg/low diffs Sanji and stuff like that. The other fandom will obviously react to this. Also, even as a Zoro fan, excessive Zoro wank is very annoying for me but I woon't say anything on that because it's my own problem. Most of these points apply to the Sanji fandom too but are less noticeable in this forum due to the fanbase being comparatively smaller, I guess?

 

[Doggo]

To be fair you constantly look to shit on Zoro. The proof is in the pudding. But to also be fair it could very well be you are more annoyed with fandom which I totally get, because I do the same thing with Sanji, they hypcrisy is usually in plain site so it's easy for me to mock

Also for me to say Zoro fans dont do this is blasphemy, both fandoms do this.

Those Zoro moments are hype, it's just the mandatory I have to attack any little thing Zoro does hype, and on top of that all the predictions that were just wrong.... like completely fucking wrong about Zoro were even more amazing

Those same people use 1004 to Hype up Sanji. Like someone explain to me how getting caught in a web by a flying 6 fighter is any hype of Sanji's ability. He can't kick woman, great, so he was too damn slow to get away from them

I legit just like to troll the fandom.

I even imagined a scenario where Zoro would get Nidai instead of Enma, and I didnt change a single feat he had. Only wanted to get rid of the trash ass Enma wank.
He's on the roof, and on the roof he will stay.

But seriously. There's just too much material to play with.
I can't resist.

I like the "don't look down on Nico Robin, "bitch"". I like these moments when the crew hype each other. I think that's neat.
I'm annoyed with his Kalifa 2.0, but I'm patiently waiting.
Not so patiently, ngl.
Fuck "Kalifa 2.0".
But if this truly ends up with a "robin saves sanji, then takes on Black Maria", it will all be worth it.
Praise Nico Robin.
And Praise BAE Maria.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Sanji is inferior to Zoro and 90% of Sanji fans get that. The problem is when Zoro stans say shit like Zoro neg/low diffs Sanji and stuff like that. The other fandom will obviously react to this. Also, even as a Zoro fan, excessive Zoro wank is very annoying for me but I woon't say anything on that because it's my own problem. Most of these points apply to the Sanji fandoms too but are less noticeable in this forum due to the fanbase being comparatively smaller, I guess?

Exactly why is saying Zoro no diffs Sanji Zoro wank? What feats do Sanji even have?

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

The biggest issue with Zoro, as a Zoroboiiii. Is there is nothing to really compare Zoro's strength to because he has never been near the brink of losing.

Sanji on the other hand has lost twice, as well as had difficulties with Vergo. So it's much easier to judge (no pun intended) his level of strength

We compare their strengh based of their opponents and feats. And thats where zoro shines.
How is it downplaying when Zoro is fighting supernovas fought the steongest villian of an arc multiple times, Fought people like ryuma. What feats do sanji have above Zoro? Nothing.
And then there is people like the one who just made this topic who try and portray Zoro and sanji as equals or close in power.
Zoro is stronger than sanji and thats it. They are not even close.

Then he proceeds to try and bully a 16 year old on the internet for having fun so the can feel better about themselves.

 

[Kromage911]

Exactly why is saying Zoro no diffs Sanji Zoro wank? What feats do Sanji even have?

Sanji has enough portrayal to at least be a mid diff fight for Zoro. As for feats, let him first get his proper 1v1 in the new world which he hasn't till now. Just wait for SvQ or SvK to happen till then.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Sanji has enough portrayal to at least be a mid diff fight for Zoro

What portrayal?

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

I legit just like to troll the fandom.

I even imagined a scenario where Zoro would get Nidai instead of Enma, and I didnt change a single feat he had. Only wanted to get rid of the trash ass Enma wank.
He's on the roof, and on the roof he will stay.

But seriously. There's just too much material to play with.
I can't resist.

I like the "don't look down on Nico Robin, "bitch"". I like these moments when the crew hype each other. I think that's neat.
I'm annoyed with his Kalifa 2.0, but I'm patiently waiting.
Not so patiently, ngl.
Fuck "Kalifa 2.0".
But if this truly ends up with a "robin saves sanji, then takes on Black Maria", it will all be worth it.
Praise Nico Robin.
And Praise BAE Maria.

And thats cool bro, At least you are honest about it. You know at least you are not on a high horse

Sanji is inferior to Zoro and 90% of Sanji fans get that. The problem is when Zoro stans say shit like Zoro neg/low diffs Sanji and stuff like that. The other fandom will obviously react to this. Also, even as a Zoro fan, excessive Zoro wank is very annoying for me but I woon't say anything on that because it's my own problem. Most of these points apply to the Sanji fandom too but are less noticeable in this forum due to the fanbase being comparatively smaller, I guess?

When sanji fans try compare sanji and zoro obviously zoro fans gonna speak up i dont see the problem with it.