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Ulti and pageone are framed at the same height in the spread
Page One is higher than Ulti (you can see from shoulders) same way Drake is higher than Sasaki
and both Drake and Page1 facing side ways.
Sasaki noted pageone
being weak
Sasaki being cocky?
Sasaki also thinks he's above calamaities like King
Sasaki said both Page one and Drake can't be calamities. Not just P1.
then Ulti threatened Sasaki
Okay? and?
That's her personality. She doesn't even care when she talks to Kaido.
We know Ulti is stronger than pageone
From what?
Nami handling her with ease?
Page One's hybrid unnamed+hakiless attack vs Sanji > Ulti's hybrid haki+named attack vs Usopp
 
doubt it, queen hasn't shown us his hybrid yet, in fact his hybrid will probably be more impressive than marco's hybrid
Unlike other zoan, it seems that for ancient zoan , full beast form has some clear
advantages over the hybrid form.
Ulti switched from base to hybrid then went full beast form when Luffy hit P1, why would she purposely nerf herself when she was angered?
Queen fougbt Big Mom in full beast form.
Jack fought the sulong mink army in full beast form.
Hybrid ancient zoan = more mobility
Full beast ancient zoan = more strenght and tougher.
Since Marco had no problem hurting Queen in full beast form and blitzed his base form, hybrid wouldnt change anything
 
Since Marco had no problem hurting Queen in full beast form
never said marco would have any problem hurting queen in zoan form

nothing i've seen suggested ancient zoan animal form > ancient zoan hybrid form

p1 immediately went hybrid when his zoan got owned
drake is currently in hybrid form
ulti is fighting nami in hybrid
 
Naj, Marco is pathetic
A mythical zoan being tired from being hurt by bullets

Even old Sengoku was tired after fighting gura teach n crew not being hurt by bulllets
That's for portrayal purpose bro, Oda does not want to make him look more better than this since it's a 1 vs the 2 strongest members of a Yonko, he needs to save face for them.
You know that this "tiredness" makes no sense, not even Kizaru could wear him out in MF while with Kairoseki (or before) nor any other marine that he encountered there.
Now we know why Fujitora was like that after confronting Revos, 1 Admiral = 2 top YC.

Yes, YC3 Cracker manhandled base Luffy with only one biscuit soldier.
Luffy always fought against superior enemys in base. He did with Hybrid muscular Lucci, he did with Doflamingo, he somehow did it with Cracker during 12 hours, etc. He was always portrayed as someone capable in his Base form.
And in that comment the discussion was about his durability. Katakuri not knocking him out while he was in Base does not matter nor makes Kata look bad since Kata could deal damage to Boundman Luffy (> any YC aside from Marco and Jozu in durability) with blunt damage or have an equal contest against Snakeman punches. King didn't show a shit till now comparable to that.
Pure wank for your part.

Yes, Feel free to prove BM did more damage.
BM knocked him out for some seconds - minutes while Marco no.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

No, They'd destroy him in five minutes.
:milaugh:
Luffy needed Snakeman + FS to touch him but these two can do it by themselves xddddddddddddddddddd.
 
Why did Oda make YC commanders so damn weak? Their strongest which seems to be Marco/Beckman are still little more than nuisances to top tiers. Fucking hell, respect them.

Or we won't
At the very least no top tier has taken care of/eliminated Marco immediately (like for example Kaido Thunder Bagua vs G4 Luffy). Marco would certainly lose against them but him being able to actually do something of some impact in such situations is already great to be honest.

Regarding Benn, his vivre card (and also chap 957), has hyped him up tremendously. I legitimately believe that an emperor/admiral beats him with high diff. Not extreme, but not even medium or low.
 
Since we don't know Marco's role post the fight with King and Queen (will he interfere with the Yonko? Will he fight marines if they appear in Wano, or will he fight CP0? What if Weevil appears?), I'd say if he, at the end of Wano Arc, doesn't show a new mode but only transforming part of his limbs into full zoan (wings, claws), he doesn't have it.
I mean sure but from all the clues we are getting
-he's getting tired from fighting K and Q
-Perospero noticed he's weakened
-he never used "true hybrid" in marineford
yet somehow he will pull out his "true hybrid" later?

I think it should be better to bet if he doesn't use "true hybrid" in King and Queen fight.
We won't have to wait years for the bet to be settled.
And we should also know the answer soon.
 
never said marco would have any problem hurting queen in zoan form

nothing i've seen suggested ancient zoan animal form > ancient zoan hybrid form

p1 immediately went hybrid when his zoan got owned
drake is currently in hybrid form
ulti is fighting nami in hybrid
Counter-example
Queen fought Big Mom in beast form
Jack fought the sulong dukes in beast form
Ulti switched from hybrid to beast against Luffy
 
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